Kidron
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How to understand sin, now that you are a born again person.....
You first must understand your born again position in relation to how God SEES YOU NOW that you are his.
Do you understand????
What matters is not how you think it should be, but rather how God says it IS.
Now,... you have to get that or you'll be the victim of every opinion led theology that is in the church and there is a lot of junk theology running loose in the pulpits and in the seminaries and online in these end times...
Now let me explain..
When you read your bible, you are to understand that you are to see yourself as IT sees you NOW, and not as you were BEFORE you were saved.
And right in here is where a New Christian usually takes a left turn early on.
Now, let me expose you to the other part of the missing revelation whereby in general a New Christian makes a left turn and never again finds the right track...
Which is....you need to understand that while all scripture is given to you, its not all designed as doctrine for you.
In other words, all scripture is profitable and God breathed, but its not all literal to a believer's born again situation as >doctrine<.
For Example......
Are you a Hebrew?..
Are..............you........................a .....................HEBREW?
Probably not anyone here is a Hebrew.
I live in Israel and im not a Hebrew..;-)
Yet, there is a letter in your New Testament that is written to the HEBREWS..
This one letter, if not understood in the context of "written to the Hebrews", will in places really mess you up Doctrinally .
And you say..."but its in the bible, so why isnt it all for ME".
Well, have you ever read the verse in Timothy that tells you to "rightly divide" the word....2nd Timothy 2:15
This means you are to discern carefully when the bible is being literal or symbolic....figurative, or doctrinal......And if you dont learn to do this....if you dont find a teacher like me who has been taught the correct doctrinal interpretation of the New Testament, and instead you just jump in there and try to understand the word using your mind and your opinion, you will end up with all sorts of twisted interpretations of scripture that will leave you without any light or truth.
And that is because there is a Devil and he will take your bible and use it against you by bringing you into contact with people who he has led to misunderstand most of the New Testament.
The devil will also use your pride and your self-righteousness and your fear and your lack of experience with the word to confuse you and to twist you with the scriptures,
Listen,...The bible is not a toy...Its a very very sharp sword, its a high tech weapon, its a hot burning reality check..its light for life...and if you are not careful with it, you will get yourself in a theological mess that can last all your lifetime..
And what is more screwed up then a screwed up Christian?
Not much.
Really.
So be very careful with the letter to the Hebrews (and with James and Matthew), as this one letter (Hebrews) is used by the devil constantly to torture Christians with the idea they have lost their salvation, or can lose it.
Ok, now that the preamble is over,.... lets talk about sin and if we are "sinners" as this is the Thread's topic..
Lets keep this really simple.
1st.....Sin is only known as sin when there is God's LAW in effect which reveals it.
Do u understand?
So, When there is no LAW, there is no sin.....Romans 5:17
Now get that....!!
If you read Romans Chapter 7, you will discover that Paul explains very carefully that the Law was given so that sin would be understood as sin, as evil, as lust, as deception.
The law was not given to save you....as it cant,....(only Christ can save you).. ....The Law only reveals the holiness of God's standard for righteousness as compared to how far we are from them and from him.
Thats the idea and the reason.........thats the purpose of the Law.....so that the whole world would become guilty before God based on the LAW.....Romans 3:19
The Law is designed to show you what you are, in relation to what God is, so that you understand your lost and hopeless situation and your need for Jesus to solve it.
See it?
Now, are you a sinner?
Does God see you as a sinner?.
Absolutely not, if you are born again.
If you are born again, God sees you as a SON, as a Joint heir of himself and of Jesus.....Romans 8:17/COLOR]
And why does God no longer see you as a sinner?.
Its because the basis for seeing you as a sinner.......THE LAW....has been abolished......2nd Corinthians 11,13
And we are no longer under it..
We are , by the body of Christ, delivered from the Law.....Romans 4:15
Now look at Romans 4:7.......notice this verse, as its so so so so important for you to understand........it says that God does not "impute" or "charge" your sins to you anymore.
Never again.....
And the reason he doesn't, is because he has by the sacrifice of Jesus the Christ >eliminated the Law<, and because the Law is gone, there is no more basis for him to legally hold you accountable for your sins as Jesus has redeemed us from the curse of the law.....Galatians 3:13
God did something amazing........He came to earth and wrapped himself in human flesh and lived a sinless life which allowed him to abolish the law for you by meeting its standards as only the one who created it can obey it perfectly......And then he died for the legal punishment due the law for our sins according to his own judgment.
In other words, he judged himself on a cross for your sins, and in doing so he took the Law away from us forever so that we are no longer under its power to judge us as sinners.....Romans 7:4,6
So, what is the eternal effect of this regarding you????.......= God has replaced the Legal basis to see you as a sinner (the Law) with the righteous body of Christ which is the new covenant basis to see you right now....right now... as Forever RIGHTEOUS. ..This is the "gift of righteousness"...Romans 5:16,17.... is your ETERNAL STANDING with God according to HIM.
He cant see you any other way.
It is what you are in his eyes, in his understanding, in his redemption plan.
And THAT is what you have to grab and hold and cherish and adore.
God has recreated you by new birth to be just as righteous as he is, and this cant be undone by "sin" as there is now no basis for it..(The Law is Gone............>.)....Romans 6:14
All that is left is your eternal Sonship position "in Christ" as a "joint heir" of God ..Romans 8:17, and that is never going to change once it has become yours by faith//new birth.
Saint... if you have never understood this before........or if you have never before been taught this revelation that God no longer sees you as a sinner, and that all your imperfect acts you now commit, that once were called "sins", are no longer charged to you, ...then im sure you would want to lift your hands and thank your awesome God who has created a salvation that is so perfect and so pure that once its applied to you, its as if you have never sinned and never will again even tho you commit acts that you know are not pleasing to him and that previously and legally he once deemed as "sin"..
He has now created an eternal connection between you and him, that you cant mess up by your deeds, ever........and this is because God himself created the blood atonement lifeline, and in doing it this way, it prevents you from being able to disconnect from him ever again by your "sins"..
Isnt this good news?
Yes, amen. !!
And you need to tell people what our Awesome God has done for us all.
be blessed,
K
You first must understand your born again position in relation to how God SEES YOU NOW that you are his.
Do you understand????
What matters is not how you think it should be, but rather how God says it IS.
Now,... you have to get that or you'll be the victim of every opinion led theology that is in the church and there is a lot of junk theology running loose in the pulpits and in the seminaries and online in these end times...
Now let me explain..
When you read your bible, you are to understand that you are to see yourself as IT sees you NOW, and not as you were BEFORE you were saved.
And right in here is where a New Christian usually takes a left turn early on.
Now, let me expose you to the other part of the missing revelation whereby in general a New Christian makes a left turn and never again finds the right track...
Which is....you need to understand that while all scripture is given to you, its not all designed as doctrine for you.
In other words, all scripture is profitable and God breathed, but its not all literal to a believer's born again situation as >doctrine<.
For Example......
Are you a Hebrew?..
Are..............you........................a .....................HEBREW?
Probably not anyone here is a Hebrew.
I live in Israel and im not a Hebrew..;-)
Yet, there is a letter in your New Testament that is written to the HEBREWS..
This one letter, if not understood in the context of "written to the Hebrews", will in places really mess you up Doctrinally .
And you say..."but its in the bible, so why isnt it all for ME".
Well, have you ever read the verse in Timothy that tells you to "rightly divide" the word....2nd Timothy 2:15
This means you are to discern carefully when the bible is being literal or symbolic....figurative, or doctrinal......And if you dont learn to do this....if you dont find a teacher like me who has been taught the correct doctrinal interpretation of the New Testament, and instead you just jump in there and try to understand the word using your mind and your opinion, you will end up with all sorts of twisted interpretations of scripture that will leave you without any light or truth.
And that is because there is a Devil and he will take your bible and use it against you by bringing you into contact with people who he has led to misunderstand most of the New Testament.
The devil will also use your pride and your self-righteousness and your fear and your lack of experience with the word to confuse you and to twist you with the scriptures,
Listen,...The bible is not a toy...Its a very very sharp sword, its a high tech weapon, its a hot burning reality check..its light for life...and if you are not careful with it, you will get yourself in a theological mess that can last all your lifetime..
And what is more screwed up then a screwed up Christian?
Not much.
Really.
So be very careful with the letter to the Hebrews (and with James and Matthew), as this one letter (Hebrews) is used by the devil constantly to torture Christians with the idea they have lost their salvation, or can lose it.
Ok, now that the preamble is over,.... lets talk about sin and if we are "sinners" as this is the Thread's topic..
Lets keep this really simple.
1st.....Sin is only known as sin when there is God's LAW in effect which reveals it.
Do u understand?
So, When there is no LAW, there is no sin.....Romans 5:17
Now get that....!!
If you read Romans Chapter 7, you will discover that Paul explains very carefully that the Law was given so that sin would be understood as sin, as evil, as lust, as deception.
The law was not given to save you....as it cant,....(only Christ can save you).. ....The Law only reveals the holiness of God's standard for righteousness as compared to how far we are from them and from him.
Thats the idea and the reason.........thats the purpose of the Law.....so that the whole world would become guilty before God based on the LAW.....Romans 3:19
The Law is designed to show you what you are, in relation to what God is, so that you understand your lost and hopeless situation and your need for Jesus to solve it.
See it?
Now, are you a sinner?
Does God see you as a sinner?.
Absolutely not, if you are born again.
If you are born again, God sees you as a SON, as a Joint heir of himself and of Jesus.....Romans 8:17/COLOR]
And why does God no longer see you as a sinner?.
Its because the basis for seeing you as a sinner.......THE LAW....has been abolished......2nd Corinthians 11,13
And we are no longer under it..
We are , by the body of Christ, delivered from the Law.....Romans 4:15
Now look at Romans 4:7.......notice this verse, as its so so so so important for you to understand........it says that God does not "impute" or "charge" your sins to you anymore.
Never again.....
And the reason he doesn't, is because he has by the sacrifice of Jesus the Christ >eliminated the Law<, and because the Law is gone, there is no more basis for him to legally hold you accountable for your sins as Jesus has redeemed us from the curse of the law.....Galatians 3:13
God did something amazing........He came to earth and wrapped himself in human flesh and lived a sinless life which allowed him to abolish the law for you by meeting its standards as only the one who created it can obey it perfectly......And then he died for the legal punishment due the law for our sins according to his own judgment.
In other words, he judged himself on a cross for your sins, and in doing so he took the Law away from us forever so that we are no longer under its power to judge us as sinners.....Romans 7:4,6
So, what is the eternal effect of this regarding you????.......= God has replaced the Legal basis to see you as a sinner (the Law) with the righteous body of Christ which is the new covenant basis to see you right now....right now... as Forever RIGHTEOUS. ..This is the "gift of righteousness"...Romans 5:16,17.... is your ETERNAL STANDING with God according to HIM.
He cant see you any other way.
It is what you are in his eyes, in his understanding, in his redemption plan.
And THAT is what you have to grab and hold and cherish and adore.
God has recreated you by new birth to be just as righteous as he is, and this cant be undone by "sin" as there is now no basis for it..(The Law is Gone............>.)....Romans 6:14
All that is left is your eternal Sonship position "in Christ" as a "joint heir" of God ..Romans 8:17, and that is never going to change once it has become yours by faith//new birth.
Saint... if you have never understood this before........or if you have never before been taught this revelation that God no longer sees you as a sinner, and that all your imperfect acts you now commit, that once were called "sins", are no longer charged to you, ...then im sure you would want to lift your hands and thank your awesome God who has created a salvation that is so perfect and so pure that once its applied to you, its as if you have never sinned and never will again even tho you commit acts that you know are not pleasing to him and that previously and legally he once deemed as "sin"..
He has now created an eternal connection between you and him, that you cant mess up by your deeds, ever........and this is because God himself created the blood atonement lifeline, and in doing it this way, it prevents you from being able to disconnect from him ever again by your "sins"..
Isnt this good news?
Yes, amen. !!
And you need to tell people what our Awesome God has done for us all.
be blessed,
K
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