How wrong is the KJV

[kenmaynard]

All this fuss about the KJV is just an attempt to undermine the Bible as a whole. I don't think any version has it totally accurate and when we look at some later versions they have tried to translate it into modern language, again this has caused some of the text to be translated into a more sociably acceptable language, removing reference to gender.

The modern versions are more dangerous due to what I have mentioned above.

Of course it is most correct to remove statements of God in the male gender. God is spiritual being. God has no animal body. God isn't of the male gender, and doesn't have male gender parts.

 

[Steve76]

All this fuss about the KJV is just an attempt to undermine the Bible as a whole. I don't think any version has it totally accurate and when we look at some later versions they have tried to translate it into modern language, again this has caused some of the text to be translated into a more sociably acceptable language, removing reference to gender.

The modern versions are more dangerous due to what I have mentioned above.

Of course it is most correct to remove statements of God in the male gender. God is spiritual being. God has no animal body. God isn't of the male gender, and doesn't have male gender parts.

I understand the need to put the Bible into modern day context but if the above statement is totally correct, why does every believer call God - Him, He, and The Lord?

Does this not point out that maybe certain language in scripture should not be taken entirely literal?
Just a thought..


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[Ed the Ned]

The problem is that the translations are taking away homsexuality as a sin, which it clearly is. but modern translations are bowing to the ways of man and that is not right. God makes reference to gender all the time, from Genesis. Life is so easy when we are not held accountable by a creator that we have created. God is the creator, the almighty and we are to see him as that, we are accountable to him whether we change the Bible or not. btw God created Adam in his image, Jesus is the head of the church just as the husband is the head of the house.

 

[Steve76]

The problem is that the translations are taking away homsexuality as a sin, which it clearly is. but modern translations are bowing to the ways of man and that is not right. God makes reference to gender all the time, from Genesis. Life is so easy when we are not held accountable by a creator that we have created. God is the creator, the almighty and we are see him as that, we are accountable to him whether we change the Bible or not. btw God created Adam in his image, Jesus is the head of the church just as the husband is the head of the house.

I agree.....totally!

:amen


Even though the KJV may have some translation errors, you just cannot beat that great Shakespearean vocabulary!



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[kenmaynard]

All this fuss about the KJV is just an attempt to undermine the Bible as a whole. I don't think any version has it totally accurate and when we look at some later versions they have tried to translate it into modern language, again this has caused some of the text to be translated into a more sociably acceptable language, removing reference to gender.

The modern versions are more dangerous due to what I have mentioned above.

Of course it is most correct to remove statements of God in the male gender. God is spiritual being. God has no animal body. God isn't of the male gender, and doesn't have male gender parts.

I understand the need to put the Bible into modern day context but if the above statement is totally correct, why does every believer call God - Him, He, and The Lord?

Does this not point out that maybe certain language in scripture should not be taken entirely literal?
Just a thought..


http://getwiththeword.blogspot.com/

Correct the bible is not a literal scientific document for example. The earth is not 6,000 years old and was not created in six literal days.

 

[kenmaynard]

The problem is that the translations are taking away homsexuality as a sin, which it clearly is. but modern translations are bowing to the ways of man and that is not right. God makes reference to gender all the time, from Genesis. Life is so easy when we are not held accountable by a creator that we have created. God is the creator, the almighty and we are to see him as that, we are accountable to him whether we change the Bible or not. btw God created Adam in his image, Jesus is the head of the church just as the husband is the head of the house.

Adams sole or spirit, the actual essence of what he really is, was created in the image of God not his animal body. God has no animal body, and thus has no gender.

 

[Ed the Ned]

Why did Jesus come as a male?

 

[Free]

God has no gender but there are reasons as to why he is generally revealed and spoken of as being male. That should never change.

 

[kenmaynard]

Why did Jesus come as a male?

Maybe because humans were sexist and backward at the time.

 

[kenmaynard]

God has no gender but there are reasons as to why he is generally revealed and spoken of as being male. That should never change.

The reasons are that people are sexist, and that should change. I see no good reason to think of God at a physical male.

 

[Free]

God has no gender but there are reasons as to why he is generally revealed and spoken of as being male. That should never change.

The reasons are that people are sexist, and that should change. I see no good reason to think of God at a physical male.

That is not the reason at all. If it were, they wouldn't have given God female attributes as well.

 

[Ed the Ned]

Ever heard of the "Queen of Heaven"?

Jer 7:18 The children gather wood, the fathers kindle fire, and the women knead dough, to make cakes for the queen of heaven. And they pour out drink offerings to other gods, to provoke me to anger.
Jer 7:19 Is it I whom they provoke? declares the LORD. Is it not themselves, to their own shame?
Jer 7:20 Therefore thus says the Lord GOD: behold, my anger and my wrath will be poured out on this place, upon man and beast, upon the trees of the field and the fruit of the ground; it will burn and not be quenched."
One other question:Why did Jesus call God Father?

 

[kenmaynard]

God has no gender but there are reasons as to why he is generally revealed and spoken of as being male. That should never change.

The reasons are that people are sexist, and that should change. I see no good reason to think of God at a physical male.

That is not the reason at all. If it were, they wouldn't have given God female attributes as well.

Well God created females too. God isn't a physical male. God does not have male parts. God doesn't have an animal body. Why is that so hard for people to grasp?

 

[Free]

It isn't. And if people know that what does it matter if God is referred to as male? We have to refer to God as something and unless it is just "God," there is no alternative word to substitute for "he".

 

[kenmaynard]

It isn't. And if people know that what does it matter if God is referred to as male? We have to refer to God as something and unless it is just "God," there is no alternative word to substitute for "he".

I think calling God... well God would be the most appropriate thing. Wouldn't you? Referring to God as he is sort of misleading, and leads to misunderstanding.

 

[Ed the Ned]

Well God created females too. God isn't a physical male. God does not have male parts. God doesn't have an animal body. Why is that so hard for people to grasp? - kenmaynard

It is not difficult to grasp, but it is pointless to discuss what God looks like, or if he has male parts or not. maybe you should look at my previous question, Why was Jesus male? (your previous answer was just put there to provoke, the Bible is Gods word not mens).Why did God put the males as heads of the house? Why are the angels referred to in the names of males? These are not sexist questions.
Please refer to my previous post, who were they referring to as the queen of heaven. (was that not a pagan god, created by the Babylonians)
If we give God a different character to what HE is known as would with not align him with pagan gods and create confusion that will lead to untold heresies.
In mentioning this why are you so adamant that God can be referred to as either male or female? (which HE cannot)

 

[Steve76]

Interesting..

As God is the Creator and we His Creation that He so longs for a relationship with I suppose that He requires to be defined as our Father, and with the attributes given to the male species of protector and hunter gatherer, it seems fitting to look up to our Creator as a male.

A protective, nurturing Father who knows best and provides for HIs children..

Thank you Lord.



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[Ed the Ned]

:yes

Imagine if we called God "It" He is our father and creator.

 

[kenmaynard]

Everyone knows only females can bring new life into the world. God created it that way so she did it that way on purpose.

 

[seekandlisten]

I totally agree with your statement Ned.

Interesting..

As God is the Creator and we His Creation that He so longs for a relationship with I suppose that He requires to be defined as our Father, and with the attributes given to the male species of protector and hunter gatherer, it seems fitting to look up to our Creator as a male.

A protective, nurturing Father who knows best and provides for HIs children..

Thank you Lord.



http://getwiththeword.blogspot.com/

From what i've gathered in the Bible it says that we as humans cannot even come close to comprehending God. If such is the case we shouldn't be making statements about Him then if we have no idea of anything about Him other than what He reveals through the Holy Spirit. I believe that attempting to describe what God is or giving Him attributes is borderline idolatry if not actually being idolatry. Not accusing anyone of idolatry here as this is just my belief on this issue. I also don't think trying to describe who or what God's attributes are that He hasn't told us have any relevance to our salvation and witness, if they were important God would reveal them to us.