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I fear Hell Yet I Forget God

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JamesLovesGod

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Hi all.

Im in a real bad mess and need some real help. I fear God, and i Fear Hell, My worst fear in the world is ending up in hell, my dream is to be with god in heaven. Latley ive gone downhill which has made me forget god, forget the bible and foget my prayers.

I sold my Technics Turntables which was my love, i loved DJing, and bought an OZ of Weed ( Marjuana ). I got into dealing weed which i do now. I now have now money and im stuck with bags of weed. I drink alot, and am thinking of developing a website promoting illigal software. I know this stuff is bad, i HATE doing it, please understand my crys for help, i really want to get out of this. I need help and prayers and i want to know what i can do next. If i throw this weed away im left with no money or nothing, could i not just sell it all and keep the money or would that be evil. I really have upset myself and gotten into mess. I fear if i die im going to hell.

Im a christian, i used to go to church, ive been baptised in Febuary 2004 as i wanted to take god as my saviour.

Please what should i do. I really need help and feel so depressed and down.

PLEASE PRAY FOR ME, I WANT TO DO GOOD FOR GOD AND GET BACK ON THE LORDS PATH, WILL GOD FORGIVE ME AND ALLOW ME INTO HEAVEN AND HOW CAN I GET OUT OF THIS MESS.
 
I am just going to be blunt with you and pull no punches. You are being selfish and whiny. The fact is that IF you are a Christian, the Spirit of God is telling you what you are doing is wrong. Now, you are trying to justify selling the rest of these drugs and keeping the money. That is blatantly sinful. You need to dump that crap in the toilet and be done with it. If you are a Christian then you know you are in the wrong and you WILL answer for your decisions some day. If you are not a Christian you are headed to hell and need to decide who it is you are going to follow.

Now, as a father I must say that dealers make my stomach turn. How dare you destroy peoples lives with that garbage?

I am assuming you are indeed a Christian who has slipped and for that I am approaching you as a brother who needs help. The help I offer is a firm rebuke and a hefty warning that you are headed in a dangerous road. You have no right to do the things you are doing and need to get on your knees and deal with this immediately.
 
Im in a real bad mess and need some real help. I fear God, and i Fear Hell, My worst fear in the world is ending up in hell, my dream is to be with god in heaven. Latley ive gone downhill which has made me forget god, forget the bible and foget my prayers.
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You are in indeed a bad place. But I can possibly help you. Fundamentalist Christianity teaches that hell is eternal but that is simply not what I believe. I am forbidden to really discuss it here so if you want to talk more about it contact me at Neonchaotic@gmail.com
 
Gendou Ikari said:
Im in a real bad mess and need some real help. I fear God, and i Fear Hell, My worst fear in the world is ending up in hell, my dream is to be with god in heaven. Latley ive gone downhill which has made me forget god, forget the bible and foget my prayers.
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You are in indeed a bad place. But I can possibly help you. Fundamentalist Christianity teaches that hell is eternal but that is simply not what I believe. I am forbidden to really discuss it here so if you want to talk more about it contact me at Neonchaotic@gmail.com
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How could imposing UR on this person actually help. He needs to know that God is very displeased with his actions, not some heretical "God will save you anyway" line. That is why UR is banned. It is nothing more then a license to sin. Heck, if there is not punishment, why should any of us follow Christ?

This person needs something more then that.
 
JamesLovesGod said:
Hi all.

Im in a real bad mess and need some real help. I fear God, and i Fear Hell, My worst fear in the world is ending up in hell, my dream is to be with god in heaven.
Would you settle for neither?

Please what should i do. I really need help and feel so depressed and down.
You need to talk to a pro. Perhaps some medication might help.

PLEASE PRAY FOR ME, I WANT TO DO GOOD FOR GOD AND GET BACK ON THE LORDS PATH, WILL GOD FORGIVE ME AND ALLOW ME INTO HEAVEN AND HOW CAN I GET OUT OF THIS MESS.
You want God to alter the laws of the universe and help you? You want to do good for God? Why not do the right thing because its the right thing to do? If you have time read this.

http://www.infidels.org/library/histori ... ndex.shtml
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In my personal (and admittedly atheistic) viewpoint, simply take responsibility for your life.

Don't think you cannnot.

It's your life to live as you choose. Life sucks sometimes...the only real difference is how you deal with it.

And on a positive note, you have no one to credit but yourself when you pull yourself out of your desperation. Envision yourself successful and happy with your life, and do everything necessary to reach those goals.

In deference to the fact this is a christian website, I won't suggest certain specifics, but simply embrace the fact that you alone control your future and execute that. Embrace the fact that YOU control where your future lies, and don't look for an easy answer.....there are none.

I wish you the best.....and I hope you succeed in it.
 
How could imposing UR on this person actually help. He needs to know that God is very displeased with his actions, not some heretical "God will save you anyway" line. That is why UR is banned. It is nothing more then a license to sin. Heck, if there is not punishment, why should any of us follow Christ?

This person needs something more then that.
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It is far from a license to sin. Just because you don't have to pay the eternal price does not mean that punishment doesn't work and we do believe in punishment. Look out our laws, they are not eternal, yet they manage to work. Ah, I better hold my tongue because my next statement would probably get deleted.
 
Lyric's Dad said:
I am just going to be blunt with you and pull no punches. You are being selfish and whiny. The fact is that IF you are a Christian, the Spirit of God is telling you what you are doing is wrong. Now, you are trying to justify selling the rest of these drugs and keeping the money. That is blatantly sinful. You need to dump that crap in the toilet and be done with it. If you are a Christian then you know you are in the wrong and you WILL answer for your decisions some day. If you are not a Christian you are headed to hell and need to decide who it is you are going to follow.

Now, as a father I must say that dealers make my stomach turn. How dare you destroy peoples lives with that garbage?

I am assuming you are indeed a Christian who has slipped and for that I am approaching you as a brother who needs help. The help I offer is a firm rebuke and a hefty warning that you are headed in a dangerous road. You have no right to do the things you are doing and need to get on your knees and deal with this immediately.
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Im going to dump the drugs in a bin today. I know its wrong and i hae no right to poision minds with drugs. I looked at it as a money making scheme, as i have no work. I really want to be with the lord and follow him and show my light to the world, thats why i cant do it. Everything i do everyday has me fearing god, it really puts a burden on my life.

Thanks for the help and advice
 
Good for you! Do what is right in the eyes of the Lord, for he knows everything about you!

We are all tempted by the struggles of this earth James... Salvation can be had each and every day of our lives when we serve our Lord and Saviour for we each have the choice to seek worldly gain, or spiritual gain.

Psalms 51:12 Restore unto me the joy of your salvation; and uphold me with a free spirit.

James,
I want you to find that salvation each and every day. Seek the Lord with all your heart and all your soul and your rewards will be stored in eternity. You see James, if what you say is true, God is calling you because he has a purpose in your life. You see, all your struggles, all your mistakes, all your sorrow is for a higher calling... and all you have to do is trust and obey the calling that the Lord is revealing to you.

James,
Choose this day to serve the Lord.

In Christ,
Jeff
 
Thanks for all the support.

Im in a bad way at the moment, im stressed out and depressed. I dumped the drugs, but my parents and brothers were calling me an idiot and basiclly shouting at me for wasting money on the stuff in the first place. I took it back out of the public bin, then said to myself 'What the Earth am i doing, im going against the lord and loosing to the devil'. I was also at this time being called Stupid by my family and i was told i change my mind like the weather and need to seek medical help. This got me angry, i grabbed the weed and threw it out of the window ( i live in a high rise ). Then my borther runs down the stairs and gets it, and is now saying hes gonna sell it. Ive gone from one extreme to another, im that angry i told my brother if he chooses to sell it for cheap and evil money i dont wanna know him. I basiclly said either choose your brother or the weed. Ive got no support from anyone in my family, they all think im stupid and they think im a fake christian and put me down.

Im so depressed at the moment, all i want is to serve god. I know ive caused all this and i want it to stop. What can i do from now. Ive also formatted my PC and am not using copyed software or downloading audio, the only thing im using at the moment is windows XP as i havnt got an origonal cd with my PC.

Please i need suport, im not whining im just lonley as i get no support from friends or family, all i want to do is serve god.

Regards
 
James,
None of us here are perfect Christians. All we can do is try our best. That being said, what you are experiencing is normal for your situation. You show great responsibility in your thoughts and actions. I applaud the courage that it has taken you to come this far. Living a life for Christ is not easy as it involves suffering... but it is through that suffering that we find salvation; for Christ truly suffered that we may be made alive through Him.

There are some verses in the Bible that speak of limbs being pruned and tree's bearing fruit. My friend, we all endure suffering, for it is through pruing, that we are forged and refined in God's great love. God has some big work for you, all you have to do is listen to his calling and obey.

Kind David was a man after God's own heart, yet he made mistake after mistake. James, we all make mistakes, but it is what we do with our mistakes that matters. No need looking back and feeling bad about our pasts. No need getting caught in all the guilt either. What we need to do is keep our eyes focused on God, for in God, is our salvation both for today, and for eternity. It's not easy, but it brings about peace in the end for our Lord stated that His yoke was easy and His burdon was light.

Read the book of Proverbs for starters... and keep in prayer.

God Bless

Jeff
 
JamesLovesGod said:
Lyric's Dad said:
I am just going to be blunt with you and pull no punches. You are being selfish and whiny. The fact is that IF you are a Christian, the Spirit of God is telling you what you are doing is wrong. Now, you are trying to justify selling the rest of these drugs and keeping the money. That is blatantly sinful. You need to dump that crap in the toilet and be done with it. If you are a Christian then you know you are in the wrong and you WILL answer for your decisions some day. If you are not a Christian you are headed to hell and need to decide who it is you are going to follow.

Now, as a father I must say that dealers make my stomach turn. How dare you destroy peoples lives with that garbage?

I am assuming you are indeed a Christian who has slipped and for that I am approaching you as a brother who needs help. The help I offer is a firm rebuke and a hefty warning that you are headed in a dangerous road. You have no right to do the things you are doing and need to get on your knees and deal with this immediately.
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Im going to dump the drugs in a bin today. I know its wrong and i hae no right to poision minds with drugs. I looked at it as a money making scheme, as i have no work. I really want to be with the lord and follow him and show my light to the world, thats why i cant do it. Everything i do everyday has me fearing god, it really puts a burden on my life.

Thanks for the help and advice
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Now that is indeed good news. I am glad that you took my advice for what it was and even though it was harsh, it was done in love. The Lord is good and will honor your choice.
 
You need to know that when you make a choice for God, the enemy will bring into your life many obstacle and barriers to try and make you stumble. At this point he is using your family. This is the time you need to lay it on the LORD and to find some Christians in your community. I would recommend you get to a Church immediately and speak with the Pastor there. Get in some Bible study and fellowship and know that God is in it.
 
Thanx steve, your support is greatley appreciated.

I will read proverbs tonight and settle down with a cup of hot chocolate. Im so scared that i may be falling and never be able to be with god. Ive felt very upset today due to this. Today has been a very emotional day for me, ive had to ajust my life seriously and stand proud whilst everyone was cursing me. My family is the opposite, if i do good they curse me, the usual christian mocking comes out and the hypocrite questions, all i can do is try my best to help them out, which dont work.

Tomorrow is a new day, and hopefully a better one for me. I wish i could find people my own age (btw im 20) who follow god and can teach and support me. I have a great urge to preach to the world, as i want them to know what i know. Im obviously weak but youve convinced me the lord has works for me, i will stay as strong as i can.

Thanks again.
 
First of all I want to show how happy I am that you have discarded the drugs.

I'm so scared that i may be falling and never be able to be with God.
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I used to be like that too. I was so bloody afraid that I would end up in hell, that I could not serve God. I felt that I was only serving Him out of fear and since he knows my thoughts then I would be eternally damned. So, I tried to climb the slippery slope out of sin but I was knocked back every time. You need a deeper motivation than to serve God, except to escape eternal damnation.

Even if you don't believe in it just try it and visit:

http://www.christian-universalism.com

It changed my life for the better.
 
James,

Lyric's Dad is correct. You should find a good church to attend and fellowship with.

Philippians 4:12-13 I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: everywhere and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need. I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.

James, Paul knows these things because he has lived them. Our strength comes from Christ. It is not our own.
God does have great things in store for you. Keep the faith, and keep looking upward! God made a promise to Abraham and God keeps his promise. But we must trust God... Even when we don't understand His will. I can only imagine what Abraham was thinking as he brought his only beloved child up the mountain side... I'm sure you know the story.

And what of Joseph? Do you know that story? God also had great things in store for Joseph... but it involved suffering. But the suffering wasn't in vain for it molded Joseph so that he could be the tool of the Lord to save Isreal from famine... You see, when we keep our eyes on the Lord, the suffering isn't a punishment, it's a refining process. To endure the way you have tells me that you are much stronger than you believe.
 
In the end, all you have is your integrity. It can be sold, traded and discarded, but no one can take that away from you.

The best "spiritual" advise I can give is "God helps those that help themself." Figure out what you want to do and then figure out a way to do them. If you are depressed medically seek professional help. It will clear up a lot of stuff. If you are depressed about your situation, figure a way out such as moving.

I don't think you should be so harsh on your brother since you were just in his situation and you will look like a hypocrit. You will do more by showing him you see a way out than by preaching it.

I wish you well.

Quath
 
Quath,

I am no doctor, but I don't think it's too wise to go telling others to seek "professional" medical help at this point.

Depression in most cases is a natural occurence. Does it feel good? No. Does it serve a purpose? Absolute. Think of it like that warning light on your dashboard. It's flashing to tell you that something is wrong.

Covering or disconnecting the light doesn't' fix the car, it just hides the problem. If the light on the dash is telling you that your low on oil, then dag nabit, stop the car and add some oil...

If and I say if I were to recommend counseling, I'd steer clear of any pop psychologist and send my Brother in Christ to a nouthetic councilor.
 
StoveBolts said:
I am no doctor, but I don't think it's too wise to go telling others to seek "professional" medical help at this point.

Depression in most cases is a natural occurence. Does it feel good? No. Does it serve a purpose? Absolute. Think of it like that warning light on your dashboard. It's flashing to tell you that something is wrong.
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I said "If you are depressed medically seek professional help." In other words, if the depression is the result of physical changes in the brain. This is exactly when you would want to see a doctor becayse they can help harmone imbalances.

There is a lot of ignorance associated with depression. It is a problem like a broken bone or arthritis. It is just that people can not see the brain and they just want to act like it is something made up. However, if you could look at the brain, you would notice brain shrinkage in some people with depression problems. Drugs and therapy have been known to help (and show the resuls by the brain returning to a more normal size).

It seems that too mahy people want to gargle with holy water, chant religious phrases, pray and hold snakes rather than see a doctor when it would help them out.

Quath
 
I'm in full agreement with you Quath. There are a lot of misunderstanding of the brain and no, I'm not one to go out and chant a bunch of garbage or have others do some crazy religious chanting...

But on the other side of the fence, I'm not going to tell sombody that they have a medical problem because they are hyper, depressed etc... cause they eat way too much sugar or don't get enough rest... which releases endorphines and lowers seratonin and alters the brain... No, I'd tell them to lay off the sugar and get some rest.
 
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