If God is the Father..... Who is the Mother?????

[Soma-Sight]

BALANCE


Light...... Dark
Day...... Night
Up..... Down
Good...... Evil
Left....... Right
Attraction.... Eversion
Syncrenism.... Antagonism
Man........????????????

God the...... Father (male)
Jesus the..... Son (male)
Holy Spirit ...... (male)????????????


What is missing here?

Where is the female aspect of God????

There are many arguments available....

1. The Holy Spirit may be female? But the "Spirit" seems to be an impersonal force beyond reproductive classifications.....

2. Material reality is female. We ARE the female aspect. The earth as the seed of the Spirit..... The children of God born of the womb of the earth from the male Spirit and female Earth...... (pagan concept)



A male God only makes logical sense in the Light that their is also a female counterpart in some regard...... It is quite possible that the male dominating culture of the Judeo - Christian past disregarded this fact as heresy or covered up the Truth of the matter due to its contradiction in regards to the culture of the times......

What do you think?????? Is there a female aspect to God? Was their a coverup.... Or is it a simple matter of attributing the female side to the Holy Spirit..... Otherwise I see no other logical conclusions here....

 

[Quath]

Balance makes sense in certain areas, but may not apply everywhere. For example, what is the balance to a stone? Or to the color red? Some things may have several balances. Like an electron is balanced by a positron (annhiliate if they connect), by a neutrino (both are emitted when a neutron decays), and by a muon (an excited state of an electron). The number 5 is balanced by 5 and by 5i (where i is the imaginary number).

So you could come up with many ways to balance out God. Since God does not sexually reproduce, gender is probably best not used to describe Him... err It.

The only cavat is if God sexaully reproduced with Mary. If Jesus had a Y chromosone, then it stands to reason that God gave sperm to Mary. So maybe He is a guy after all.

But giving birth to the universe sounds female.


Quath

Quath

 

[AHIMSA]

God is both Father and Mother

Christ is both Son and Daughter

By which I mean, God transcends the sexes.

 

[Rick W]

Then it follows there should be a father of invention, a father lode, a mother time, a grandmother's clock and a mother of lies.
Say, this is a great idea. How many of these can you think of?
:smt042

 

[AHIMSA]

Except Mother Nature would have to stay the same....because only a woman could have that many mood swings!! LOL

....i hope that does'nt offen anyone! :o

 

[Geo]

hahaha, Soma the answer is: Your question is only valid
this side of eternity.

you assume our reality to be universally valid,
and forget that the only reason we're split into m + f
in this world is that we would get lonely otherwise.

After we leave this planet there is no more male or female,
that's just temporary to aid our current situation

 

[Soma-Sight]

hahaha, Soma the answer is: Your question is only valid
this side of eternity.

you assume our reality to be universally valid,
and forget that the only reason we're split into m + f
in this world is that we would get lonely otherwise.

After we leave this planet there is no more male or female,
that's just temporary to aid our current situation

So far it seems the consensus is that the Judeo- Christian paradigm of a male only God is erroneous....

I would have to agree....

Looking at the wrath of nature also seems to be "feminine" in many regards.... There are "cycles" to weather storms... a "menses" type cycling of the ocean tides due to the "time of the month" in regards to the moon.... Plus lightning bolts in storms remind me of the flash of the eyes in a "women scorned"...... 8-)

Hope I dont get banned for that one..... :bday:

 

[DivineNames]

Catholics have the virgin Mary to balance it out a little.

 

[Soma-Sight]

Catholics have the virgin Mary to balance it out a little.

Mary is still a "human" however.....

I guess what I am implying is the transcendescent God beyond our senses....

Is their a male and female part of this Divinity?

The Bible points to it as a male....

But male is only valid if there is a female as well! Otherwise God would be an "It".

 

[Vic C.]

hahaha, Soma the answer is: Your question is only valid
this side of eternity.

you assume our reality to be universally valid,
and forget that the only reason we're split into m + f
in this world is that we would get lonely otherwise.

After we leave this planet there is no more male or female,
that's just temporary to aid our current situation

That's the best response I've read so far. Thanks Geo.

Either you accept the fact that God inspired the writers to refer to His divinity in a masculine sense or you don't. If you do, it's that simple. If you don't, pray to the Lord to change your understanding... and curiosity of such things. It's nonessential to salvation.

 

[bibleberean]

God will be a Father for all eternity.

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Jesus will always be a man...

Micah 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

Revelation 1:13-18 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

He is King of Kings not Queen of Kings.

Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

 

[Orthodox Christian]

Catholics have the virgin Mary to balance it out a little.

Mary is still a "human" however.....

I guess what I am implying is the transcendescent God beyond our senses....

Is their a male and female part of this Divinity?

The Bible points to it as a male....

But male is only valid if there is a female as well! Otherwise God would be an "It".

God is neither male nor female- these designations are in fact limitations.

When we call God pater/Father, we are referring to His relationship to us. But it is not as if God does not have attributes which we grossly refer to as 'feminine'- nurturing, assisting. Jesus said that He longed to gather Jerusalem under His wings as a hen broods her chicks.

Generally speaking, it is the Holy Spirit who fulfills what we might call the feminine aspects of God.

But God is not feminine one moment and masculine the next, nor are their parts of His being that could be labeled masculine or feminine. There is only such identified in His interaction with us.

Go has revealed Himself to us, Father, Son, Holy Spirit,. But we do not presume that we ave thus circumscribed all that God is with words.

Lest any man think that God's masculine name somehow elevates the masculine identity, remember what He calls His Church- BRIDE.

And take a look around you in any Church. You will see more women than men.

 

[Rick W]

How else can we equate relationships/authority except through relational labels that we are familiar with? We can't possibly understand the true nature of God since nothing on earth is anywhere close. In ancient Jewish culture the father was the head of the family therefore "Father" was used to attempt to convey the authoritive figure of God. Same goes with "The Son"... again an analogous representation in terms we know and understand. We can't even imagine how a heavenly being can be in more than one place at a time since we are locked in a world of space and time having no understanding that time doesn't exist in the heavenly realms. If I divide forever into a thousand pieces I'm still left with parts that are in themselves the totally of the whole.

Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

Here Christ attempts to convey the lack of gender in terms we may be able to understand yet even this is beyond our comprehension. In most cases we choose to "humanize" spiritual things as we attempt to humanize animals in cartoons. If certain events or acts of the spiritual do not line up with what we are accustomed to in this physical world then we have a penchant to rebel, belittle and judge accordingly those things which are of a spiritual nature of which we are not familiar with. And we expect our God to explain His behavior on our terms that we may decide if His authority aligns with what we expect as experienced in this fallen world.

There is no "mother god" as some popular religions teach. There is no marriage in heaven or offspring of supposed unions. There is no beginning of God for He is everlasting to everlasting, the alpha and the omega, the first and the last.

 

[bibleberean]

God calls Himself our Father not our mother.

Jesus is a man.

No wonder their are "gender" neutered bible versions. Common sense has died...

The church is the bride and Christ is the groom.

The roles can never be reversed.

Ephesians 5:20 Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;

Ephesians 5:21 Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.

Ephesians 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

Ephesians 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

Ephesians 5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.


The rest is PC garbage... :D

 

[Soma-Sight]

Hey BB,

Go tell your wife all that you just wrote then get back to me from the emergency room!

lol....

:

What a coincidence that the Bible just happens to name God as ONLY MALE as it is written in a culture that views women as merely property....

Where is Sherlock Homes for this one????

Hmmmmm......

Something smells fishy here.....

Or maybe thats just due to my new organic deodorant! 8-)

 

[bibleberean]

Hey BB,

Go tell your wife all that you just wrote then get back to me from the emergency room!

lol....


:

What a coincidence that the Bible just happens to name God as ONLY MALE as it is written in a culture that views women as merely property....

Where is Sherlock Homes for this one????

Hmmmmm......

Something smells fishy here.....

Or maybe thats just due to my new organic deodorant! 8-)

You are not even remotely funny....

The bible refers to God as Father and you think it is from culture?

Yet you claim to keep the Sabbath? I smell something too and it isn't fish. ;-)

Ever worked on a cattle ranch? I have and I know "bull" when I smell it...

 

[Solo]

Hey BB,

Go tell your wife all that you just wrote then get back to me from the emergency room!

lol....


:

What a coincidence that the Bible just happens to name God as ONLY MALE as it is written in a culture that views women as merely property....

Where is Sherlock Homes for this one????

Hmmmmm......

Something smells fishy here.....

Or maybe thats just due to my new organic deodorant! 8-)

You are not even remotely funny....

The bible refers to God as Father and you think it is from culture?

Yet you claim to keep the Sabbath? I smell something too and it isn't fish. ;-)

Ever worked on a cattle ranch? I have and I know "bull" when I smell it...

I agree BB. I lost my sense of smell in the wreck, but I know "bull" when I see it, from back in my cowboy days. :D

 

[Soma-Sight]

You are not even remotely funny....

The bible refers to God as Father and you think it is from culture?

Yet you claim to keep the Sabbath? I smell something too and it isn't fish.

Ever worked on a cattle ranch? I have and I know "bull" when I smell it...

Hmmmmmmm......

Well lets see here...

Who wrote the Bible????

MEN

Who dominated the culture of the Hebrews and the Jews?

MEN

Would it be beneficial for a male dominated society to "label" a transcendescent NON HUMAN God a male for control purposes????

YES

But then again REASON is to be avoided by those of faith.....

Martin Luther and Galileo found that one out the HARD WAY!!! lol..... :P

I think you and Solo should be labeled the "Casanova's" of the boards.... lol .... JK!

I would like to see you guys quote Paul to some lady in the Supermarket than ask for a date..... :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel:

Maybe that worked in the 50's but these days it results in a lonely Sabbath Night..... :o :o :o