I'm really struggling with fasting

[LanaPodesta]

Which church are you asking about?

The EOC

 

[Hidden In Him]

The EOC

Well I like the Eastern Orthodox Church. I always have. I think they preserve a lot of good early church tradition, and unlike the CC have not contaminated it with as much false doctrine that went too far.

I'm just not a compete adherent to the EOC's doctrine's, being non-denominational now for decades, so I would view their positions more as an outsider than you would. But I do view them quite highly as denominations go.

 

[LanaPodesta]

Well I like the Eastern Orthodox Church. I always have. I think they preserve a lot of good early church tradition, and unlike the CC have not contaminated it with as much false doctrine that went too far.

I'm just not a compete adherent to the EOC's doctrine's, being non-denominational now for decades, so I would view their positions more as an outsider than you would. But I do view them quite highly as denominations go.

Have you ever considered attending?

 

[Hidden In Him]

Have you ever considered attending?

No, Lana. I've become so accustomed to serving the Lord in my daily routine that services are almost an afterthought at this point. I'm sure I would likely enjoy a visit sometime, however, so if the opportunity should come up that someone local invites me, I'll certainly keep it under consideration.

How are you doing on your fast, any better?

 

[JLB]

Correct. Gnosticism also taught an intense hatred for the God of the Old Testament, and Paul taught that Christ Jesus WAS the God of the Old Testament.

 

[Hopeful 2]

Body vs mind is a false dichotomy,

Please elaborate.

it's the "matter bad, spirit good" gnosticism heresy.

What is ?
Fasting ?
Or the mind having control over the skin and bones ?

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

Please elaborate.

Men shall not live by bread ALONE, not that men shall live by the word of God and no bread. Jesus is god but also man, he has his physiological needs as you and I.

 

[LanaPodesta]

No, Lana. I've become so accustomed to serving the Lord in my daily routine that services are almost an afterthought at this point. I'm sure I would likely enjoy a visit sometime, however, so if the opportunity should come up that someone local invites me, I'll certainly keep it under consideration.

How are you doing on your fast, any better?

Why not experiencing Him in Liturgy?

 

[Hopeful 2]

Men shall not live by bread ALONE, not that men shall live by the word of God and no bread. Jesus is God but also man, he has his physiological needs as you and I.

I don't see what that has to do with either fasting, or body vs mind.

 

[Hidden In Him]

Why not experiencing Him in Liturgy?

Not a Liturgy guy.

 

[LanaPodesta]

Not a Liturgy guy.

So you're not a 'participating in the heavenly worship that's been ongoing since the dawn of creation' kind of guy? Not a 'standing with the saints and angels in awe of God's majesty' kind of guy?' Liturgy isn't just ritual—it's the closest thing to heaven on earth.

 

[Hidden In Him]

So you're not a 'participating in the heavenly worship that's been ongoing since the dawn of creation' kind of guy? Not a 'standing with the saints and angels in awe of God's majesty' kind of guy?' Liturgy isn't just ritual—it's the closest thing to heaven on earth.

I knew I was gonna get this kind of response, LoL.

I understand the beauty of liturgy, so don't get me wrong. But I'm Pentecostal. The beauty of congregating for me is seeing and hearing the Lord Himself speak through His people supernaturally, i.e. through Divine utterance. We're just part of two different Christian cultures, but I appreciate the input.

Blessings,
- H

 

[LanaPodesta]

I knew I was gonna get this kind of response, LoL.

I understand the beauty of liturgy, so don't get me wrong. But I'm Pentecostal. The beauty of congregating for me is seeing and hearing the Lord Himself speak through His people supernaturally, i.e. through Divine utterance. We're just part of two different Christian cultures, but I appreciate the input.

Blessings,
- H

you prefer that...to the convergence of Earth and Heaven?!

 

[Hopeful 2]

you prefer that...to the convergence of Earth and Heaven?!

Where in the bible is that written about ?

 

[LanaPodesta]

Where in the bible is that written about ?

it isn't

 

[Hopeful 2]

it isn't

Then I will have to consider it unbiblical, and the work of a man.

 

[LanaPodesta]

Then I will have to consider it unbiblical, and the work of a man.

The Bible is itself the 'work of a man'.

Why risk denying yourself the Mystery of Liturgy?

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

I don't see what that has to do with either fasting, or body vs mind.

I don't know what are we arguing and what's the point of it.

 

[Hopeful 2]

The Bible is itself the 'work of a man'.

I don't agree.

Why risk denying yourself the Mystery of Liturgy?

Can the Mystery of the Liturgy enable one to live without sin ?

 

[Hopeful 2]

I don't know what are we arguing and what's the point of it.

This went sideways at post 26.
I can let go of it here.