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I'm still searching and have some more questions.

Rob

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I'm still trying to learn some things for myself and in some of the research I've done I came across some questions I would really like all who are willing to answer for me. I would basically like to get an idea of what most Christians answer on these regardless of what doctrine they believe in. I really would like answers from trinitarians and non-trinitarians because this will help me to figure out exactly what some of these doctrines believe. As I've said before, I was raised to believe in the trinity but I need to prove these things to myself and challenge my own faith so that I can become stronger in it. Thanks again for all of your help.


1.) Do you usually pray directly to Jesus? When you pray to the Father, do you switch over into language indicating that actually you are thinking about Jesus (for example, using "Lord," "in your name," or "Jesus")?

2.) Do you expect to see only one God in heaven, namely Jesus Christ?

3.) Is it correct to say that you seldom or never pray directly to the Holy Spirit as a separate person?

4.) Is the doctrine of the trinity confusing to you or a mystery to you?

I got these from one of the many papers I have been reading and this one was from one that seems to advocate a oneness doctrine. From what I've read so far, oneness doesn't seem that much different the beliefs of the trinitarians, just maybe a little less confusing but that doesn't mean it's correct.
 
I am not a trinitarian.

1.) Do you usually pray directly to Jesus? When you pray to the Father, do you switch over into language indicating that actually you are thinking about Jesus (for example, using "Lord," "in your name," or "Jesus")?
A.)I pray to the Father YHWH. I admit that the only way I can approach the Father in the first place is through His son, Yahu'shua. So when I pray I am thinking of the Father and thanking the Son through whom I am capable of reaching the Father.

2.) Do you expect to see only one God in heaven, namely Jesus Christ?
A.)I expect to see only one God, the Father, YHWH.

3.) Is it correct to say that you seldom or never pray directly to the Holy Spirit as a separate person?
A.)Holy Spirit is God's Spirit, whereas holy spirit is the gift, the spirit indwelling in the believers through which you offer supplications to the Holy Spirit which is the Father's Spirit.

4.) Is the doctrine of the trinity confusing to you or a mystery to you?
A.)It is not confusing nor is it a mystery. What it is, is contradiction of terms of what monotheism stands for. Its basic explanation is similar to hinduism in its monotheism.
 
1.) Do you usually pray directly to Jesus? When you pray to the Father, do you switch over into language indicating that actually you are thinking about Jesus (for example, using "Lord," "in your name," or "Jesus")?

I think that all are God, and that all can be prayed to, we see examples of Jesus being worshipped in Scripture. I worship all, but direct it to the Father, by means of the Holy Spirit, and in the name of the Son, because this is the way Jesus taught us to pray, and to pray the will of the Father who is the economy of God. I think Jesus, in the Lord's Prayer, shows us how the three work together, covenantly, as God, in a very simple manner.

2.) Do you expect to see only one God in heaven, namely Jesus Christ?

Colossians 2:9 tells us that in Jesus dwells the fullness of the Godhead bodily. I do expect to see God, in the form of Jesus...the Lamb once again...and be in the eternal presence of God eternally. Once Christ delivers the kingdom to the Father, and all things are under His feet, I expect to be in the eternal presence of God forever, for He is our Temple. We know that Jesus' reign is eternal, and we also know that He will deliver the Kingdom to the Father, and will reign as the Son, all under God...Christ, and the Holy Spirit, still covnenating to do the Will of (subject to) the Father, but both equally God.

3.) Is it correct to say that you seldom or never pray directly to the Holy Spirit as a separate person? I do not, though I do pray that the Father direct me by the Holy Spirit, teach me with, sanctify me through, etc. They have covenanted together, and with different functions, to redeem me by the Will of the Father, and so I take my requests to Him, though all is accomplished by God, the three in unity.

4.) Is the doctrine of the trinity confusing to you or a mystery to you?

I suppose God is a mystery to me in that I know Him in my spirit, but fail to understand Him completely in my limited mind...and so should be the nature of things I think. I am looking forward to a glorified body, and a true grasp in my mind, of what is in my new spirit.

I hope this helps, the Lord bless you.
 
I may be a Trinitarian or something else, I just don't know anymore.

1.) Do you usually pray directly to Jesus? When you pray to the Father, do you switch over into language indicating that actually you are thinking about Jesus (for example, using "Lord," "in your name," or "Jesus")? I pray to God only in Jesus name. That is how Jesus taught us to pray.

2.) Do you expect to see only one God in heaven, namely Jesus Christ? There is only one God. Jesus is the "Word of God", or as Georges calls it, the Memra. He is God, but when He was on Earth, He was 100% human. That means we did not see God in His full glory because anyone who sees God will die. Moses who saw his "back" went blind.

3.) Is it correct to say that you seldom or never pray directly to the Holy Spirit as a separate person? If I pray to God, I am praying to The Holy Spirit as well.

4.) Is the doctrine of the trinity confusing to you or a mystery to you? After nearly a quarter of a century of study, I still do not completely understand God. I think I would have to be perfect first, and I am not perfect by any sense. (I sure hope I am not adding to your confusion.)

The best way to get to know God is to read His Word, The Bible. Read it in its entirety and not just verse by verse picked out. I would recommend that to any one.
 
You will understand the Trinity fully in heaven

God is a truine. God and the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are one in nature, essense and power. You will see all of them in heaven. You pray to Jesus as you go through Him to get to the Father.

What does the Bible say? He who has the Son has the Father. But he who has not the Son doesn't have the Father also (I John, 2:23)

The Bible says we are saved through Jesus Christ. Who is the "one" on the throne - Jesus.

I used to be "oneness" a long time ago but this doesn't make any sense to me ha. It is very difficult for me to comprehend how Jesus can be talking to himself the whole time.

I'm a christian rookie here, but have been saved for 25 years.
 
I'm still trying to learn some things for myself and in some of the research I've done I came across some questions I would really like all who are willing to answer for me. I would basically like to get an idea of what most Christians answer on these regardless of what doctrine they believe in. I really would like answers from trinitarians and non-trinitarians because this will help me to figure out exactly what some of these doctrines believe. As I've said before, I was raised to believe in the trinity but I need to prove these things to myself and challenge my own faith so that I can become stronger in it. Thanks again for all of your help.


1.) Do you usually pray directly to Jesus? When you pray to the Father, do you switch over into language indicating that actually you are thinking about Jesus (for example, using "Lord," "in your name," or "Jesus")?

2.) Do you expect to see only one God in heaven, namely Jesus Christ?

3.) Is it correct to say that you seldom or never pray directly to the Holy Spirit as a separate person?

4.) Is the doctrine of the trinity confusing to you or a mystery to you?

I got these from one of the many papers I have been reading and this one was from one that seems to advocate a oneness doctrine. From what I've read so far, oneness doesn't seem that much different the beliefs of the trinitarians, just maybe a little less confusing but that doesn't mean it's correct.
I pray (speak) to Jehovah my God, and Jesus my King.
 
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