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Has any considered the nature of the beast of Rev 13:1-8.
Notice that it is a composite beast of all those that preceded it on Daniel 7.
Therefore to fully understand it we must first understand Daniel. The angel Gabriel told Daniel that the beasts were all kingdoms. Therefore the beast of Rev 13 must also be a kingdom, as bible prophecy is consistent in its symbolism.
The main characteristic of those nations or kingdoms was that they were utterly pagan. And a quick glance through history would verify that pagan kingdoms are by nature church/state unions.The pagan priests either ruled or had great influence over the governments and the laws of the nation reflected the laws of the religion. Any deviation from those laws was quickly dealt with by the state at the priests request.
The papal kingdom is exactly that. A church/state union. The pope is both priest and king. And the catholic faith is a composite of the pagan /church/state unions that preceded it. Babylon, Persian,Greek and Roman pagan beliefs mixed with enough truth to make it somewhat acceptable as a 'Christian' church.
She also exercised the same intolerance of dissent that is typically pagan, and used the state to persecute and prosecute 'heretics'.
She has also displaced Christ as sole mediator between God and man. She blasphemes by claiming the right to forgive sin.And the popes claim that they have the authority to change even the laws of God should they so choose.
The early American pioneers emigrated to the new world to escape the intolerance and the persecution of Europe. They established a state without a king, and allowed freedom of concience in worship(at least in theory) so there would be no pope.
But what is happening today in the US? Very forceful lobbying by the church in both senate and congress to do away with the 1st ammendment and allow the church once again to dictate to the state that certain legislation should be enacted in support of church doctrine and belief. The agreement between catholics and protestants 10 years ago was purely a political agreement to gain political power.
Now read carefully the following. Could it be that the United States is fulfilling these scriptures and is in the process of establishing a church/state union-the image to the first beast? The image that will enforce the mark of the first beast? The image that will persecute and prosecute dissenters?
Is there really any other nation or kingdom with the power and world influence that the U.S. currently has to cause the entire world to bow down to the Roman Catholic Church?
Rev 13:11 ¶ And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Quote: I want to hear some American stand up and shout 'give us justice, give us decency. And to hell with the constitution.
CATHOLIC NEWS 25/7/1963
"The best way to honour Pope John Paul 11, truly one of the great men, is to take his teaching seriously; is to listen to his words and put his words into action here in America. This is a challenge we must accept. But you know something about our country?With the right focus and the right leadership, it's a challenge this nation will accept..."
PRESIDENT G W BUSH 22/3/2001
On his last tour of Poland in 1987,Pope John Paul 11 denounced excessive
materialism and the seperation of church and state.
TIME 17/6/1991
When religion is good, it will take care of itself.When it is not able to take care of itself, and God does not see fit to take care of it, so that it has to appeal to the civil power for support, it is evidence to my mind that its cause is a bad one.
BENJAMIN FRANKLIN
Very interesting to note that Obama has just selected his running mate. A catholic.
Notice that it is a composite beast of all those that preceded it on Daniel 7.
Therefore to fully understand it we must first understand Daniel. The angel Gabriel told Daniel that the beasts were all kingdoms. Therefore the beast of Rev 13 must also be a kingdom, as bible prophecy is consistent in its symbolism.
The main characteristic of those nations or kingdoms was that they were utterly pagan. And a quick glance through history would verify that pagan kingdoms are by nature church/state unions.The pagan priests either ruled or had great influence over the governments and the laws of the nation reflected the laws of the religion. Any deviation from those laws was quickly dealt with by the state at the priests request.
The papal kingdom is exactly that. A church/state union. The pope is both priest and king. And the catholic faith is a composite of the pagan /church/state unions that preceded it. Babylon, Persian,Greek and Roman pagan beliefs mixed with enough truth to make it somewhat acceptable as a 'Christian' church.
She also exercised the same intolerance of dissent that is typically pagan, and used the state to persecute and prosecute 'heretics'.
She has also displaced Christ as sole mediator between God and man. She blasphemes by claiming the right to forgive sin.And the popes claim that they have the authority to change even the laws of God should they so choose.
The early American pioneers emigrated to the new world to escape the intolerance and the persecution of Europe. They established a state without a king, and allowed freedom of concience in worship(at least in theory) so there would be no pope.
But what is happening today in the US? Very forceful lobbying by the church in both senate and congress to do away with the 1st ammendment and allow the church once again to dictate to the state that certain legislation should be enacted in support of church doctrine and belief. The agreement between catholics and protestants 10 years ago was purely a political agreement to gain political power.
Now read carefully the following. Could it be that the United States is fulfilling these scriptures and is in the process of establishing a church/state union-the image to the first beast? The image that will enforce the mark of the first beast? The image that will persecute and prosecute dissenters?
Is there really any other nation or kingdom with the power and world influence that the U.S. currently has to cause the entire world to bow down to the Roman Catholic Church?
Rev 13:11 ¶ And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Quote: I want to hear some American stand up and shout 'give us justice, give us decency. And to hell with the constitution.
CATHOLIC NEWS 25/7/1963
"The best way to honour Pope John Paul 11, truly one of the great men, is to take his teaching seriously; is to listen to his words and put his words into action here in America. This is a challenge we must accept. But you know something about our country?With the right focus and the right leadership, it's a challenge this nation will accept..."
PRESIDENT G W BUSH 22/3/2001
On his last tour of Poland in 1987,Pope John Paul 11 denounced excessive
materialism and the seperation of church and state.
TIME 17/6/1991
When religion is good, it will take care of itself.When it is not able to take care of itself, and God does not see fit to take care of it, so that it has to appeal to the civil power for support, it is evidence to my mind that its cause is a bad one.
BENJAMIN FRANKLIN
Very interesting to note that Obama has just selected his running mate. A catholic.