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[Who Me]

I found it depressing and sad that Christians do not see that third world countries shouldld be treated fairly in trade agreements.

There are charities that seek to help people at ground level to gain a trade, start a business etc etc.
These will help people.e in small communities, but to help whole nations they have to have access to world trade, which means lowering trade taffifies and other limits to imports from third world countries.

Yes this can hit our economies, so there has to be government involvement and regulation.

 

[Milk-Drops]

So in short business like my brother in law who started out on his own body shop after working for others and is known in the try county area should pay union wages with benefits to the likes of a govt job with a pension .

The costs of body work if the cost of a used car wasn't so high would only relegate the collectors to keeping older cars versus what some like I did .fix and older vehicle versus going into massive debt for those union employees.

I would be paying More on a car that won't last ten years then I do on my house ! I know a few that pay more on a car per month then I do with my mortgage.

I also do believe in right to work states ? Why because of the above with my bil and at times I might Not want to support the union backed politicians money or by vote.

I believe California killed or tried to gig working .I did that in Florida .it paid my bills for a while .

A union in your Boether's case would be a mechanics union. If your brother can't pay whatever he negotiates with the union, then he isn't doing well enough to news those employees by market standards.

 

[jasonc]

A union in your Boether's case would be a mechanics union. If your brother can't pay whatever he negotiates with the union, then he isn't doing well enough to news those employees by market standards.

Body shop aren't mechanics as they don't normally fix cars.they only do it if it's related to the body work .
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[Milk-Drops]

Body shop aren't mechanics as they don't normally fix cars.they only do it if it's related to the body work .
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Then whatever union would apply. The point is that if your brother's business can only expand by deflating labor, then your brother needs to revaluate the scope of their bussiness.

 

[jasonc]

Then whatever union would apply. The point is that if your brother's business can only expand by deflating labor, then your brother needs to revaluate the scope of their bussiness.

People don't want to work for him at 20 bucks and hour with no experience.he also welds ,fabricates and restores .

Union chain shops don't do that . He painted my bed frame and a metal furniture. Sand blasting both .you can't charge a customer for more then are willing to pay

Ford pro union and gm cant sell trucks .for me to buy a truck from then is More then my house costs .!

Damage a truck like that and it gets totalled. No insurance will pay half that for restoration.50 grand . They will trash it ..

He can't find willing people to learn. That area isn't that expensive to where I would turn down 45 grand a year with no mechanical knowledge or welding etc to start !

Chain shops won't pull a bumper or a fender they simply replace . He will pull and build .you get what you pay for with chain shops . My bumper was slightly pushed in after he painted it .he would pull it out for 200 . An insurance company will pay only to replace that . The Chinese junk ones are horrible . Not as good and also aren't gonna line up .

Local body shops that do what he does will refer work to him ,even shops that only deal with collision.some will pay more to have a nice luxury car after a bad wreck look like it was never in one !

He can as he did with mine and that wasn't his best work .make it look like it never was damaged .

He is hardly conservative but is demanding on work . He moves circles around kids . He has too .people just don't want to learn and wait the time in with the knowledge and skill to make money it that .

Yes I get the game with shops . I make more not turning wrenches . People want fine work for nothing . Sorry I have to charge labor because I have to remove fenders ,tires to gain access .

 

[Milk-Drops]

People don't want to work for him at 20 bucks and hour with no experience.he also welds ,fabricates and restores .

Ok. It sounds like he can't afford to attract people at the market rate people are willing to give for their talents then.

Union chain shops don't do that . He painted my bed frame and a metal furniture. Sand blasting both .you can't charge a customer for more then are willing to pay

Correct. Sounds like he isn't at the point where he can justify the expenses for expansion then.

Ford pro union and gm cant sell trucks .for me to buy a truck from then is More then my house costs .!

Ok, sounds like you are not in the market for a truck then.

Damage a truck like that and it gets totalled. No insurance will pay half that for restoration.50 grand . They will trash it ..

Ok. Maybe people should stop buying their product until that issue is addressed.

He can't find willing people to learn. That area isn't that expensive to where I would turn down 45 grand a year with no mechanical knowledge or welding etc to start !

What is the job market in his area like? Are people offering similar wages or offsets to justify their decision? At my work I took a pay cut to get a shorter commute and day shift.

Chain shops won't pull a bumper or a fender they simply replace . He will pull and build .you get what you pay for with chain shops . My bumper was slightly pushed in after he painted it .he would pull it out for 200 . An insurance company will pay only to replace that . The Chinese junk ones are horrible . Not as good and also aren't gonna line up .

I hear you, but I think you are missing the main point. Your brother is a sole owner of a company and get both all the risk and reward. He operates small because of a niche market. Its hard but the payoff is more freedom to do with his company what he wants. Labour is a resource that he has to figure out how to balance. He is in a situation where inflation pushed past where he can pay to attract the people he wants.

Local body shops that do what he does will refer work to him ,even shops that only deal with collision.some will pay more to have a nice luxury car after a bad wreck look like it was never in one !

He can as he did with mine and that wasn't his best work .make it look like it never was damaged .

He is hardly conservative but is demanding on work . He moves circles around kids . He has too .people just don't want to learn and wait the time in with the knowledge and skill to make money it that .

Yes I get the game with shops . I make more not turning wrenches . People want fine work for nothing . Sorry I have to charge labor because I have to remove fenders ,tires to gain access .

I would be repeating myself if I kept parcing this. I'm not morally condemning your brother. I'm stating that market wise your brother might not be able to meet demand. That is all. Your brother could be amazing, but the market doesn't care if he is amazing, but if he can meet the costs. I wish your brother the best.

 

[jasonc]

Ok. It sounds like he can't afford to attract people at the market rate people are willing to give for their talents then.

Correct. Sounds like he isn't at the point where he can justify the expenses for expansion then.



Ok, sounds like you are not in the market for a truck then.


Ok. Maybe people should stop buying their product until that issue is addressed.

What is the job market in his area like? Are people offering similar wages or offsets to justify their decision? At my work I took a pay cut to get a shorter commute and day shift.

I hear you, but I think you are missing the main point. Your brother is a sole owner of a company and get both all the risk and reward. He operates small because of a niche market. Its hard but the payoff is more freedom to do with his company what he wants. Labour is a resource that he has to figure out how to balance. He is in a situation where inflation pushed past where he can pay to attract the people he wants.


I would be repeating myself if I kept parcing this. I'm not morally condemning your brother. I'm stating that market wise your brother might not be able to meet demand. That is all. Your brother could be amazing, but the market doesn't care if he is amazing, but if he can meet the costs. I wish your brother the best.

You really don't know .

No local dealership pays that for tech with a degree starting ...

The average wage nation wide for techs to include body work is 22 per hour .he starts at 20 he has paid more plus 21 .

That average is 22 including master mechanics .

https://www.indeed.com/q-entry-level-mechanic-l-florida-jobs.html

Technician Shortage—Why It Exists & What Needs to Change

There isn’t just one major problem feeding into the national technician shortage. Take a look at the issues the industry is facing.

wrenchway.com

He would teach a kid like that Toyota job .

1. Replacing car seats ,refurbishing them as he can order kits .
2. How to use what machines are needed ,to sand blast etc ,body puller
3. Helpers do the shop clean up .
4. What ever else that could be taught to repair a car .

https://www.indeed.com/q-entry-level-mechanic-l-okeechobee,-fl-jobs.html

He has built airboats and swamp buggies .

Trailers ,semi truck as well .he fabricates bodies at times .he has had the frame apart of two vehicles and made one of them . So welding a trailer up at entry level is similar in nature to what he pays abs that place can't keep employees either .

 

[jasonc]

Ok. It sounds like he can't afford to attract people at the market rate people are willing to give for their talents then.

Correct. Sounds like he isn't at the point where he can justify the expenses for expansion then.



Ok, sounds like you are not in the market for a truck then.


Ok. Maybe people should stop buying their product until that issue is addressed.

What is the job market in his area like? Are people offering similar wages or offsets to justify their decision? At my work I took a pay cut to get a shorter commute and day shift.

I hear you, but I think you are missing the main point. Your brother is a sole owner of a company and get both all the risk and reward. He operates small because of a niche market. Its hard but the payoff is more freedom to do with his company what he wants. Labour is a resource that he has to figure out how to balance. He is in a situation where inflation pushed past where he can pay to attract the people he wants.


I would be repeating myself if I kept parcing this. I'm not morally condemning your brother. I'm stating that market wise your brother might not be able to meet demand. That is all. Your brother could be amazing, but the market doesn't care if he is amazing, but if he can meet the costs. I wish your brother the best.

He gets redundant

But listen to what he says on the retention value .
You pay off a truck for that and have no retention value .a mortgage payment .mine with taxes is not even half of that he mentions and I can sell my house and it's value is higher .

A six year loan at 1200 a month for a truck .

 

[Milk-Drops]

You really don't know .

Exactly. Because I am limited to what you can tell me.

No local dealership pays that for tech with a degree starting ...

The average wage nation wide for techs to include body work is 22 per hour .he starts at 20 he has paid more plus 21 .

So why are the techs that are making less and have experience not coming to work for him?

That average is 22 including master mechanics .

https://www.indeed.com/q-entry-level-mechanic-l-florida-jobs.html

Technician Shortage—Why It Exists & What Needs to Change

There isn’t just one major problem feeding into the national technician shortage. Take a look at the issues the industry is facing.

wrenchway.com

He would teach a kid like that Toyota job .

1. Replacing car seats ,refurbishing them as he can order kits .
2. How to use what machines are needed ,to sand blast etc ,body puller
3. Helpers do the shop clean up .
4. What ever else that could be taught to repair a car .

https://www.indeed.com/q-entry-level-mechanic-l-okeechobee,-fl-jobs.html

He has built airboats and swamp buggies .

Trailers ,semi truck as well .he fabricates bodies at times .he has had the frame apart of two vehicles and made one of them . So welding a trailer up at entry level is similar in nature to what he pays abs that place can't keep employees either .

Does he advertise that he does this? Is he reaching out to temp agencies to get a contract to get people sent his way?

 

[jasonc]

Exactly. Because I am limited to what you can tell me.


So why are the techs that are making less and have experience not coming to work for him?


Does he advertise that he does this? Is he reaching out to temp agencies to get a contract to get people sent his way?

He has gone to where I learned . Kids won't stay. Irsc has branches in fort Pierce and where he works.

 

[Corn Pop]

People don't want to work for him at 20 bucks and hour with no experience.

People shouldn't be complaining if they got no job and no experience and can get 20 bucks an hour and learn something and are being motivated, that is better than no job and no income crying broke.