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Imputation of Righteousness is Word Salad Theology

WordofGod

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Word Salad Theology

What people mean by "word salad" is this. "Word salad" itself is a metaphor. What does this denote exactly? When people hate truth and want to find identity outside truth, they deliberately stay in in-existence(death) of meaning to justify themselves.

Imputation is an economical term such as clearing debt. It is a mathematical concept like adding and subtracting. If God imputes his righteousness that way, it is to make God a material being. If God's righteousness can be transferred like that, a robot can be righteous. It fundamentally misunderstands the nature of God. God is a spirit, not matter. God's grace is not added or subtracted like data. This is to make his grace vain, because you change it into a mere thing that can be added or subtracted.

Another interpretation of imputation is representational. If God 'calls' you or 'names' you as righteous, even if you are not, you are now righteous. However, this idea is also materialistic. We can call our chairs 'righteous', because that is just a name. Name tags can be moved from another, but what that name actually means do not move. That's why we can call chairs righteous but we will never see chairs transferred to heaven.

This is what Christian doctrine of "imputation" is doing.

It's mystifying what righteousness is to justify their own lack of real righteousness, which comes from obeying God.


Real concept of righteousness is given in Ezekiel.

But if a wicked person turns away from all the sins they have committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, that person will surely live; they will not die. None of the offenses they have committed will be remembered against them. Because of the righteous things they have done, they will live. Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign Lord. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?

Ezekiel 18
 
Word Salad Theology

What people mean by "word salad" is this. "Word salad" itself is a metaphor. What does this denote exactly? When people hate truth and want to find identity outside truth, they deliberately stay in in-existence(death) of meaning to justify themselves.

Imputation is an economical term such as clearing debt. It is a mathematical concept like adding and subtracting. If God imputes his righteousness that way, it is to make God a material being. If God's righteousness can be transferred like that, a robot can be righteous. It fundamentally misunderstands the nature of God. God is a spirit, not matter. God's grace is not added or subtracted like data. This is to make his grace vain, because you change it into a mere thing that can be added or subtracted.

Another interpretation of imputation is representational. If God 'calls' you or 'names' you as righteous, even if you are not, you are now righteous. However, this idea is also materialistic. We can call our chairs 'righteous', because that is just a name. Name tags can be moved from another, but what that name actually means do not move. That's why we can call chairs righteous but we will never see chairs transferred to heaven.

This is what Christian doctrine of "imputation" is doing.

It's mystifying what righteousness is to justify their own lack of real righteousness, which comes from obeying God.


Real concept of righteousness is given in Ezekiel.

But if a wicked person turns away from all the sins they have committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, that person will surely live; they will not die. None of the offenses they have committed will be remembered against them. Because of the righteous things they have done, they will live. Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign Lord. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?

Ezekiel 18
The passage you cited from Ezekiel perfectly describes the gospel as our Lird Jesus taught and lived it.
The only exception, is that Jesus didn't have to have to turn from his own sins. He walked as God on earth, appearing as anyone else, but for the purpose of teaching everyone how he wants us to live.
 
Word Salad Theology

What people mean by "word salad" is this. "Word salad" itself is a metaphor. What does this denote exactly? When people hate truth and want to find identity outside truth, they deliberately stay in in-existence(death) of meaning to justify themselves.

Imputation is an economical term such as clearing debt. It is a mathematical concept like adding and subtracting. If God imputes his righteousness that way, it is to make God a material being. If God's righteousness can be transferred like that, a robot can be righteous. It fundamentally misunderstands the nature of God. God is a spirit, not matter. God's grace is not added or subtracted like data. This is to make his grace vain, because you change it into a mere thing that can be added or subtracted.

Another interpretation of imputation is representational. If God 'calls' you or 'names' you as righteous, even if you are not, you are now righteous. However, this idea is also materialistic. We can call our chairs 'righteous', because that is just a name. Name tags can be moved from another, but what that name actually means do not move. That's why we can call chairs righteous but we will never see chairs transferred to heaven.

This is what Christian doctrine of "imputation" is doing.

It's mystifying what righteousness is to justify their own lack of real righteousness, which comes from obeying God.


Real concept of righteousness is given in Ezekiel.

But if a wicked person turns away from all the sins they have committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, that person will surely live; they will not die. None of the offenses they have committed will be remembered against them. Because of the righteous things they have done, they will live. Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign Lord. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?

Ezekiel 18
It seems that what you're essentially saying is that our works alone make us righteous. Would that be correct? Is that what the Bible teaches?

"We look to the Scriptures and see that when Paul explains the doctrine of justification, he goes back to the Old Testament to Genesis 15. There the Scriptures say of Abraham, “He believed God, and it was counted to him for righteousness” (Gen. 15:6).

When Paul develops the doctrine of justification by faith alone, he is saying that when God counts somebody righteous on the basis of faith, it is not because He looks at them and sees that they are inherently righteous. Rather, they have been clothed by the imputation, or transfer, of the righteousness of Christ to that person by faith.

This is why we say that the single meritorious cause of our salvation is the transfer, or counting, of Jesus’ righteousness for me. Not only did He die to pay the penalty for my sins, but He lived a perfect life of obedience and fulfilled the law for those who put their trust in Him. This is what we’re talking about in imputation. That was the single, central, most important point of the sixteenth century Reformation."

https://www.ligonier.org/learn/qas/what-is-imputed-righteousness

Rom 3:21 But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it—
Rom 3:22 the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction:
Rom 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
Rom 3:24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, (ESV)

Rom 4:2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God.
Rom 4:3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.”
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Rom 4:22 That is why his faith wascounted to him as righteousness.”
Rom 4:23 But the words “it was counted to him” were not written for his sake alone,
Rom 4:24 but for ours also. It will be counted to us who believe in him who raised from the dead Jesus our Lord,
Rom 4:25 who was delivered up for our trespasses and raised for our justification. (ESV)

It seems that maybe you're confusing justification and sanctification.
 
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