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[_ Old Earth _] INSECT-EATEN EVOLUTION!

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There's an awful lot that insects say against evolution, and I'll bring the most powerful points to the forum. Even if you aren't overly interested in the subjest, do have a look, and be amazed!

THE ORIGIN OF INSECTS

Before you read this, go here for a thorough brutalisation of the theory of evolution, which underlines many of the points I have been making:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGCkpuNu9QA


There’s an awful lot of insects. Just to give you an idea:

They are among the most diverse groups of animals on the planet, including more than a million described species and representing more than half of all known living organisms.[2][3] The number of extant species is estimated at between six and ten million,[2][4][5] and potentially represent over 90% of the differing metazoan life forms on Earth.[6]
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And all this from a ‘common ancestor’! What utter bunkum!

It beggars belief, that so much, so many, so diverse organisms could come from a ‘common ancestor’!

But then, evolutionsts follow their sacred cow, no matter where it may lead. The cow says: There was a hellish lot of evolution going on at some point in time in the past, wasn’t there!

That, of course, is entirely opposed to the usual mutation/natural selection claptrap we have become used to on this forum.

Mark one against evolution.
 
[FONT=&quot]They first appeared 407 – 396 million years ago. Looking, guess what? Just like modern insects. Oh yeah, they found wingless insects – but they were INSECTS! Complete with [/FONT][FONT=&quot]head, thorax and abdomen, six legs, just like the wingless insects around today.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
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Springtails,
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bristletails and the first true insects first appear in the fossil record in the Devonian, 410-354 mya.

The first winged insects, the mayflies, grasshoppers and cockroaches, did not appear until the Carboniferous, 354-298 mya (spiders and scorpions also evolved at this time). Beetles, flies, true bugs, booklice, thrips, stoneflies, webspinners and lacewings (and frogs) all appeared in the Permian, 298-251 mya.
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Here’s a marvellous thing. Springtails. What’s a springtail?


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Most species have an abdominal, tail-like appendage, the furcula, that is folded beneath the body to be used for jumping when the animal is threatened. It is held under tension by a small structure called the retinaculum and when released, snaps against the substrate, flinging the springtail into the air. All of this takes place in as little as 18 milliseconds.
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Got that? No?

It’s a gadget, a spring, under the abdomen of the insect, designed to fling the insect into the air to escape its predators. Maybe it jumps for the sheer fun of it, who knows.

But such a mechanism cannot have evolved bit by bit. Any missing part, and the insect is dead – because it can’t get away.

So how did the spring evolve? It clearly didn’t.

Now hear the presumptuous stupidity as the sacred cow moos:

also evolved at this time

Just look at that incredible list above. Here it is again:

Springtails are attested to since the Early Devonian.[9] The fossil from 400 million years ago, Rhyniella praecursor, is the oldest terrestrial arthropod, and was found in the famous Rhynie chert of Scotland. Given its morphology resembles extant species quite well, the radiation of the Hexapoda can be situated in the Silurian, 420 million years ago or more.
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See? No evolution has taken place for 400 million years – and the insect was perfect from the start: a genuine springtail, like those today.

Here’s the grudging admission: ‘Given its morphology resembles extant species quite well’ simply means it looks just like the modern ones.

So, evolution? What evolution? M-o-o-o-o!
 
For a total brutalisation of the theory by the fossils, go here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGCkpuNu9QA


Here are some wings from the Permian, NEARLY 400 MILLION YEARS AGO. Doesn’t look too different to a modern insect wing, does it?


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It is believed that by the Tertiary, 63 million years ago, there existed many of what are still modern genera; hence, most insects in amber are, indeed, members of extant genera. What seems most fascinating is that insects diversified in a relatively brief 100 million years (give or take) into the modern forms that exist with minor change in modern times.
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Notice, they had taken the modern forms by then – so that means that they were doing so a long time before that!

Fossil evidence? None worth the name.

The modern forms are no different to the ancient ones, and the fossils in amber, preserve insects that are indistinguishable from today’s forms.

A few or them now follow: no evolution has taken place, or ever will. 230 mya : the found 2 flies and a mite – all perfectly formed, and easily identifiable.

Evolution? What evolution?
 
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50 million year old ant. See any differences to today's ants? No? What does that prove? NO EVOLUTION HAS TAKEN PLACE IN 50 MILLION YEARS. tHEN HOW CAN WE BE SURE THAT ANY TOOK PLACE BEFORE THAT?
 
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Evidence: A fly identified as Psocoptera, one of around 100 species of arthropod found preserved in amber dating back 50 million years

See ANY differences to today’s flies? No? What does that prove? Answer: evolution did NOT, HAS NOT TAKEN PLACE.

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A spider web preserved in amber, thought to be 110 million years old, shows evidence [...] that orb spinning was in an advanced state as many as 136 million years ago. One of these, the araneid Nephila jurassica, from about 165 million years ago, recorded from Daohuogo, Inner Mongolia in China, is the largest known fossil spider.[1]
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Here's a picture of the fossil of Nephila jurassica.

Sorry, it won't come on. Go here instead:

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgu...WF6mm0QWv1IDwBw&sqi=2&ved=0CDoQ9QEwAg&dur=489

See ANY differences to today’s spiders? No? What does that prove? Answer: evolution did NOT, HAS NOT TAKEN PLACE.
 
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Here's a spider eating a wasp, 100 million years ago. Notice anything?
Yeah. No evolution has taken place.
 
Nonetheless, these fragments have led experts to agree that insects must have originated millions of years earlier, perhaps at the end of the Silurian Period, about 415 million years ago.


The first substantial record of insects is in Pennsylvanian rocks, deposited from about 315 to 300 million years ago, by which time insects had evolved wings and a variety of other specialized structures.
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That may be an out of date quote, because older fossils have been found – but the ENORMOUS problem is Still there: WINGS! WINGS! WINGS!


The oldest definitive insect fossil is the Devonian Rhyniognatha hirsti, estimated at 407 to 396 million years ago.[6] This species already possessed dicondylic mandibles, a feature associated with winged insects, suggesting that wings may already have evolved at this time.
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[FONT=&quot]Ooohh! Just look! The wings are there on the first insect fossils! This MOST ADVANCED FEATURE possible, is RIGHT THERE, from the beginning![/FONT]
 
Species of Orthoptera, or grasshoppers and related kin, is an ancient order that still exist till today extending from this time period. From which time even the distinctive synapomorphy of saltatorial, or adaptive for jumping, hind legs is preserved.
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So they can fly – and jump too! How did both of those evolve, one wonders, yesssss, one wonders!


Not only are the wings present, but paired wings are present. Dragonflies can hover – and the synchronisation of the wing movements is an unbelievable feature. Hovering is also an amazing feature – but it’s right there !
 
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[SIZE=-1]Ancient wings : A fossil of Protolindenia wittei, a dragonfly with a wingspan of about 15 cm. This exquisitely preserved specimen comes from the Jurassic Solnhofen limestones of Bavaria, Germany, and is about 155 million years old. The oldest fossils of Odonata are more than twice that old! [/SIZE]

How much difference do you see? None, I guess, AFTER 155 -310 MILLION YEARS OF 'EVOLUTION'!!

So ALL together now! What DIDN'T happen?

EVOLUTION!!!!
 
“…beetles may have originated during the Lower Permian, up to 299 million years ago.†Wiki T


These are among the oldest insects known: and they are distinguishable as beetles! What else was there, one wonders.


All this is bad enough, and should convince even the most die-hard evolutionists that evolution has not, did, not, and can not have taken place.



But the sacred cow moos, and the happy band follows.[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
 
Acanthaeschna victoria
Adversaeschna brevistyla
Aeschnophlebia anisoptera
Aeschnophlebia longistigma
Aeschnophlebia optata
Aeschnophlebia zygoptera
Aeshna affinis
Aeshna athalia
Aeshna baicalensis
Aeshna caerulea
Aeshna canadensis
Aeshna clepsydra
Aeshna constricta
Aeshna crenata
Aeshna cyanea
Aeshna ellioti
Aeshna eremita
Aeshna flavifrons
Aeshna frontalis
Aeshna grandis
Aeshna interrupta
Aeshna juncea
Aeshna lucia
Aeshna meruensis
Aeshna minuscula
Aeshna mixta
Aeshna moori
Aeshna nigroflava
Aeshna osiliensis
Aeshna palmata
Aeshna persephone
Aeshna petalura
Aeshna riley
Aeshna scotias
Aeshna septentrionalis
Aeshna serrata
Aeshna sitchensis
Aeshna subarctica
Aeshna subpupillata
Aeshna tuberculifera
Aeshna umbrosa
Aeshna undulata
Aeshna verticalis
Aeshna viridis
Aeshna walkeri
Aeshna wiliamsoniana
Aeshna wittei
Aeshna yemenensis
Agyrtacantha dirupta
Agyrtacantha microstigma
Agyrtacantha othello
Agyrtacantha tumidula
Allopetalia pustuloso
Allopetalia reticulosa
Amphiaeschna ampla
Anaciaeschna donaldi
Anaciaeschna isosceles
Anaciaeschna jaspidea
Anaciaeschna kashimirensis
Anaciaeschna martini
Anaciaeschna megalopis
Anaciaeschna melanostoma
Anaciaeschna moluccana
Anaciaeschna montivagans
Anaciaeschna triangulifera
Anax amazili
Anax bacchus
Anax bangweuluensis
Anax chloromelas
Anax concolor
Anax congoliath
Anax ephippiger
Anax fumosus
Anax georgius
Anax gibbosulus
Anax guttatus
Anax immaculifrons
Anax imperator
Anax indicus
Anax julius
Anax junius
Anax longipes
Anax maclachlani
Anax mandrakae
Anax marginope
Anax nigrofasciatus
Anax panybeus
Anax parthenope
Anax piraticus
Anax pugnax
Anax selysi
Anax speratus
Anax strenuus
Anax tristis
Anax tumorifer
Anax walsinghami
Andaeschna andresi
Andaeschna rufipes
Andaeschna timotocuica
Andaeschna unicolor
Antipodophlebia asthenes
Austroaeschna anacantha
Austroaeschna atrata
Austroaeschna christine
Austroaeschna cooloola
Austroaeschna eungella
Austroaeschna flavomaculata
Austroaeschna forcipata
Austroaeschna hardyi
Austroaeschna inermis
Austroaeschna ingrid
Austroaeschna muelleri
Austroaeschna obscura
Austroaeschna parvistigma
Austroaeschna pulchra
Austroaeschna sigma
Austroaeschna speciosa
Austroaeschna subapicalis
Austroaeschna tasmanica
Austroaeschna unicornis
Austroaeschna weiskei
Austrogynacantha heterogena
Austrophlebia costalis
Austrophlebia subcostalis
Basiaeschna janata
Boyeria cretensis
Boyeria grafiana
Boyeria irene
Boyeria maclachlani
Boyeria sinensis
Boyeria vinosa
Brachytron pratense
 
 
Dendroaeschna conspersa
Epiaeschna heros
Gomphaeschna antilope
Gomphaeschna furcillata
Gynacantha adela
Gynacantha africana
Gynacantha albistyla
Gynacantha alcanthoe
Gynacantha apiaensis
Gynacantha apicalis
Gynacantha arnaudi
Gynacantha arsinoe
Gynacantha arthuri
Gynacantha auricularis
Gynacantha bainbriggei
Gynacantha bartai
Gynacantha basiguttata
Gynacantha bayadera
Gynacantha bifida
Gynacantha biharica
Gynacantha bispina
Gynacantha bullata
Gynacantha burmana
Gynacantha calliope
Gynacantha calypso
Gynacantha caudata
Gynacantha chelifera
Gynacantha constricta
Gynacantha convergens
Gynacantha corbeti
Gynacantha croceipennis
Gynacantha cylindrata
Gynacantha demeter
Gynacantha dobsoni
Gynacantha dohrni
Gynacantha dravida
Gynacantha ereagris
Gynacantha flavipes
Gynacantha francesca
Gynacantha furcata
Gynacantha gracilis
Gynacantha helenga
Gynacantha hova
Gynacantha hyalina
Gynacantha immaculifrons
Gynacantha incisura
Gynacantha interioris
Gynacantha japonica
Gynacantha jessei
Gynacantha jubilaris
Gynacantha khasiaca
Gynacantha kirbyi
Gynacantha klagesi
Gynacantha laticeps
Gynacantha limbalis
Gynacantha litoralis
Gynacantha maclachlani
Gynacantha malgassica
Gynacantha manderica
Gynacantha membranalis
Gynacantha mexicana
Gynacantha mocsaryi
Gynacantha musa
Gynacantha nausicaa
Gynacantha nervosa
Gynacantha nigeriensis
Gynacantha nourlangie
Gynacantha nympha
Gynacantha ochraceipes
Gynacantha odoneli
Gynacantha pasiphae
Gynacantha penelope
Gynacantha phaeomeria
Gynacantha radama
Gynacantha rammohani
Gynacantha remartinia
Gynacantha risi
Gynacantha rolandmuelleri
Gynacantha rosenbergi
Gynacantha rotundata
Gynacantha ryukyuensis
Gynacantha salatrix
Gynacantha sevastopuloi
Gynacantha sextans
Gynacantha stenoptera
Gynacantha stevensoni
Gynacantha stylata
Gynacantha subinterrupta
Gynacantha tenuis
Gynacantha tibiata
Gynacantha usambarica
Gynacantha vesiculata
Gynacantha victoriae
Gynacantha villosa
Gynacantha zuluensis
Gynacanthaeschna sikkima
 
Heliaeschna bartelsi
Heliaeschna crassa
Heliaeschna cynthiae
Heliaeschna filostyla
Heliaeschna fuliginosa
Heliaeschna idae
Heliaeschna lanceolata
Heliaeschna libyana
Heliaeschna longfieldae
Heliaeschna raymondi
Heliaeschna sembe
Heliaeschna simplicia
Heliaeschna trinervulata
Heliaeschna ugandica
Heliaeschna ukerewensis
Heliaeschna uniervula
Hemianax papuensis
Indaeschna baluga
Indaeschna grubaueri
Limnetron antarcticum
Limnetron debile
Linaeschna polli
Nasiaeschna pentacantha
Neuraeschna calverti
Neuraeschna capillata
Neuraeschna claviforcipata
Neuraeschna clavulata
Neuraeschna cornuta
Neuraeschna costalis
Neuraeschna dentigera
Neuraeschna harpya
Neuraeschna maxima
Neuraeschna maya
Neuraeschna mayoruna
Neuraeschna mina
Neuraeschna producta
Neuraeschna tapajonica
Neuraeschna titania
Notoaeschna geminata
Notaeschna sagittata
 
 
Periaeschna biguttata
Periaeschna flecheri
Periaeschna flinti
Periaeschna gerrhon
Periaeschna laidlawi
Periaeschna lebasi
Periaeschna magdalena
Periaeschna mira
Periaeschna nocturnalis
Periaeschna unifasciata
Periaeschna zhangzhouensis
Petaliaeschna corneliae
Petaliaeschna flavipes
Petaliaeschna fletcheri
Petaliaeschna lieftincki
Petaliaeschna pinratanai
Planaeschna celia
Planaeschna chiengmaiensis
Planaeschna cucphuongensis
Planaeschna haui
Planaeschna intersedens
Planaeschna ishigakiana
Planaeschna milnei
Planaeschna naica
Planaeschna nanlingensis
Planaeschna risi
Planaeschna skiaperipola
Planaeschna suichangensis
Planaeschna taiwana
Planaeschna tamdaoensis
Planaeschna tomokunii
Plattycantha acuta
Plattycantha cornuta
Plattycantha venatrix
Polycanthagyna chaoi
Polycanthagyna erythromelas
Polycanthagyna melanictera
Polycanthagyna ornithocephala
Racenaeschna angustistrigis
Remartinia luteipennis
Remartinia restricta
Remartinia rufipennis
Remartinia secreta
Rhionaeschna absoluta
Rhionaeschna biliosa
Rhionaeschna bonariensis
Rhionaeschna brasiliensis
Rhionaeschna brevicercia
Rhionaeschna brevifrons
Rhionaeschna californica
Rhionaeschna condor
Rhionaeschna confusa
Rhionaeschna cornigra
Rhionaeschna decessus
Rhionaeschna diffinis
Rhionaeschna draco
Rhionaeschna dugesi
Rhionaeschna eduardoi
Rhionaeschna elsia
Rhionaeschna fissifrons
Rhionaeschna galapagoensis
Rhionaeschna haarupi
Rhionaeschna intricata
Rhionaeschna itataia
Rhionaeschna jalapensis
Rhionaeschna joannisi
Rhionaeschna manni
Rhionaeschna marchali
Rhionaeschna multicolor
Rhionaeschna mutata
Rhionaeschna nubigena
Rhionaeschna obscura
Rhionaeschna pallipes
Rhionaeschna pauloi
Rhionaeschna peralta
Rhionaeschna planaltica
Rhionaeschna psilus
Rhionaeschna punctata
Rhionaeschna serrania
Rhionaeschna tinti
Rhionaeschna variegata
Rhionaeschna vazquezae
Rhionaeschna vigintipunctata
Sarasaeschna minuta
Spinaeschna tripunctata
Spinaeschna watsoni
Staurophlebia auca
Staurophlebia bosqui
Staurophlebia gigantula
Staurophlebia reticulata
Staurophlebia wayana
Subaeschna francesca
Telephlebia brevicauda
Telephlebia cyclops
Telephlebia godeffroyi
Telephlebia tillyardi
Telephlebia tryoni
Telephlebia undia
Tetracanthagyna bakeri
Tetracanthagyna brunnea
Tetracanthagyna degorsi
Tetracanthagyna plagiata
Tetracanthagyna waterhousei
Triacanthagyna caribbea
Triacanthagyna dentata
Triacanthagyna ditzleri
Triacanthagyna nympha
Triacanthagyna obscuripennis
Triacanthagyna satyrus
Triacanthagyna septima
Triacanthagyna trifida
Triacanthagyna williamsoni
 
Anotogaster antehumeralis
 
Epitheca bimaculata (Charpentier, 1825) – Eurasian Baskettail
Epitheca canis (McLachlan, 1886) – Beaverpond Baskettail
Epitheca costalis (Selys, 1871) – Slender Baskettail or Stripe-winged Baskettail
Epitheca cynosura (Say, 1840) – Common Baskettail
Epitheca marginata (Selys, 1883)
Epitheca petechialis (Muttkowski, 1911) – Dot-winged Baskettail
Epitheca princeps Hagen, 1861 – Prince Baskettail
Epitheca semiaquea (Burmeister, 1839) – Mantled Baskettail
Epitheca sepia (Gloyd, 1933) – Sepia Baskettail
Epitheca spinigera (Selys, 1871) – Spiny Baskettail
Epitheca spinosa (Hagen in Selys, 1878) – Robust Baskettail
Epitheca stella (Williamson in Muttkowski, 1911) – Florida Baskettail
 
Idionyx carinata Fraser, 1926
Idionyx claudia Ris, 1912
Idionyx corona Fraser, 1921
Idionyx galeata Fraser, 1924
Idionyx iida Hämäläinen, 2002
Idionyx imbricata Fraser, 1926
Idionyx intricata Fraser, 1926
Idionyx laidlawi Fraser, 1936
Idionyx minima Fraser, 1931
Idionyx montana Karsch, 1891
Idionyx murcia Lieftinck, 1971
Idionyx nadganiensis Fraser, 1924
Idionyx nilgiriensis (Fraser, 1918)
Idionyx optata Selys, 1878
Idionyx orchestra Lieftinck, 1953
Idionyx periyashola Fraser, 1939
Idionyx philippa Ris, 1912
Idionyx rhinoceroides Fraser, 1934
Idionyx saffronata Fraser, 1921
Idionyx selysi Fraser, 1926
Idionyx stevensi Fraser, 1924
Idionyx thailandica Hämäläinen, 1985
Idionyx travancorensis Fraser, 1931
Idionyx unguiculata Fraser, 1926
Idionyx victor Hämäläinen, 1991 – Dancing Shadow-emerald[2]
Idionyx yolanda Selys, 1871
Idionyx yunnanensis Zhou, Wang, Shuai & Liu, 1994
 
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