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[_ Old Earth _] Intelligent Design by the Creator

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Sealed at the Beginning

Revelation 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

Revelation 9:4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.


Ode of Solomon 8:14 Love me with affection, ye who love! 15 For I do not turn away my face from them that are mine; 16 For I know them and before they came into being I took knowledge of them, and on their faces I set my seal: 17 I fashioned their members: my own breasts I prepared for them, that they might drink my holy milk and live thereby 18 I took pleasure in them and am not ashamed of them: 19 For my workmanship are they and the strength of my thoughts: 20 Who then shall rise up against my handiwork, or who is there that is not subject to them? 21 I willed and fashioned mind and heart: and they are mine, and by my own right hand I set my elect ones: 22 And my righteousness goeth before them and they shall not be deprived of my name, for it is with them. 23 Ask, and abound and abide in the love of the Lord, 24 And yet beloved ones in the Beloved: those who are kept, in Him that liveth: 25 And they that are saved in Him that was saved; 26 And ye shall be found incorrupt in all ages to the name of your Father. Hallelujah.

Ode of Solomon 4:11 For there is no repentance with thee that thou shouldest repent of anything that thou hast promised: 12 And the end was revealed before thee: for what thou gavest, thou gavest freely: 13 So that thou mayest not draw them back and take them again: 14 For all was revealed before thee as God, and ordered from the beginning before thee: and thou, O God, hast made all things. Hallelujah,

Isaiah 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

The first text says, “Hurt not the earth, nor the sea, nor the treesâ€Â, and this is contingent upon “sealing the servants of God in their foreheadsâ€Â. However the earth has been “hurt†from almost the beginning. Volcanic eruptions and earthquakes have “hurt the earth, grass, and treesâ€Â, if you think about it. You can also look at it in a different way. The Creator has merely redesigned His creation using volcanic eruptions to create new islands and mountain ranges and earthquakes to move the land mass and separate the continents of today. Science has theorized that once upon a time there was a “pangaeaâ€Â, or a single land mass, which was later divided by tectonic plate movements of the earth. Using this trend of thought, earthquakes and volcanic eruptions may be considered “intelligent design†by the Creator. Nevertheless the grass and trees have always been “hurt†by fires from lightning strikes, volcanic eruptions and lava flows. This too may be considered part of the Creator’s method of redesign and renewal. Today trees are hurt also by acid rain, and the seas and rivers are hurt by chemical pollution. Our coral reefs are dying in many places because of pollution! Global warming from carbon dioxide emissions are melting polar glaciers, changing the temps of the ocean currents, and causing catastrophic weather changes. We are aware of more frequent and severe hurricanes just recently.

Our other texts state that “the END was revealed at the BEGINNINGâ€Â. Here is the definition of the word, “seal†….

seal1 (s¶l) n. 1.a. A die or signet having a raised or incised emblem used to stamp an impression on a receptive substance such as wax or lead. b. The impression so made. c. The design or emblem itself, belonging exclusively to the user. d. A small disk or wafer of wax, lead, or paper bearing such an imprint and affixed to a document to prove authenticity or to secure it. 2. Something, such as a commercial hallmark, that authenticates, confirms, or attests. 3. A substance, especially an adhesive agent such as wax or putty, used to close or secure something or to prevent seepage of moisture or air. 4. A device that joins two systems or elements in such a way as to prevent leakage. 5.a. An airtight closure. b. A closure, as on a package, used to prove that the contents have not been tampered with. 6. A small decorative paper sticker. --seal tr.v. sealed, seal•ing, seals. 1. To affix a seal to in order to prove authenticity or attest to accuracy, legal weight, quality, or another standard. 2.a. To close with or as if with a seal. b. To close hermetically. c. To make fast or fill up, as with plaster or cement. d. To apply a waterproof coating to. 3. To grant, certify, or designate under seal or authority. 4. To establish or determine irrevocably. 5. Mormon Church. To make (a marriage, for example) binding for life; solemnize forever. --phrasal verb. seal off. To close tightly or surround with a barricade or cordon. --seal“a•ble adj.

The American Heritage Dictionary

When we revisit the creation of the children of God in the beginning we discover that He created an embossed signature, a raised emblem and image of Himself …. A “FACE†on each spirit offspring. Yes, brother’s and sisters! Your face is the embossed impression from God, His own personal SEAL! All this was done at the beginning when each offspring was created. Observe from Secrets of Enoch

44 1 The Lord with his hands having created man, in the likeness of his own face, the Lord made him small and great. Whoever reviles the ruler's face, and abhors the Lord's face, has despised 2 the Lord's face, and he who vents anger on any man without injury, the Lord's great anger will 3 cut him down, he who spits on the face of man reproachfully, will be cut down at the Lord's great judgement. 4 Blessed is the man who does not direct his heart with malice against any man, and helps the injured and condemned, and raises the broken 5 down, and shall do charity to the needy, because on the day of the great judgement every weight, every measure and every makeweight will be as in the market, that is to say they are hung on scales and stand in the market, and every one shall learn his own measure, and according to his measure shall take his reward.

As you can see Ode of Solomon 8 tells us God stamped HIS FACE (SEAL) on all the children He created from the very beginning. Your “seal†is not the face you see in the mirror, a face of flesh and blood. Your spirit face is invisible and hidden, but it can shine like the brightness of the sun and it is absolutely beautiful. YOU will not see your SEAL (FACE) until after you rise.

John,
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Can you explain how pulling verses out of the bible somehow relates to the discussion of evolution? The bible is not a textbook nor does anyone know for sure who wrote it. When you take a Brittanica and research Jesus it uses no other reference other than the bible. The reason it does this is because outside of the bible no other first hand information exists to confirm his existance. If there was it would be used. The problem with using the bible as reference is as I explained above. Fantastic claims require fantastic evidence and the evidence is missing.
 
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reznwerks said:
Can you explain how pulling verses out of the bible somehow relates to the discussion of evolution?

The bible is not a textbook nor does anyone know for sure who wrote it. When you take a Brittanica and research Jesus it uses no other reference other than the bible. The reason it does this is because outside of the bible no other first hand information exists to confirm his existance. If there was it would be used. The problem with using the bible as reference is as I explained above. Fantastic claims require fantastic evidence and the evidence is missing.


1 - "Ode of Solomon" - post above - is NOT in the Bible

2 - Almighty God knows INFINITELY more than finite man - see 1 Corinthians 1 for a magnificent contrast between puny man & the Creator

Likewise Job 38-41

3 - Josephus, Herodotus & Pliny are just SOME of the respected historians who confirm the Bible @ Jesus

The plain fact is that we have more evidence for the existence of Jesus than for any other historical figure!

4 - 'Fantastic' - ironically used by an evo-loopy - means based in fantasy - which in fact what ToE is & why its insane stranglehold on academia needs breaking, to delay the Antichrist imposing the worst global tyranny ever - DO see threads & Sign of the Beast, etc

http://www.christianforums.net/viewforum.php?f=17

5 - http://www.christianbooks.com

As well as those 23 highly qualified scientists who contributed to that Grand Canyon: A Creationist Viewpoint book, there are hundreds of MSc/PhD-level scientists, from micro-biology to astronomy, who see so much clear evidence of Intelligent Design that they reject the atheistic brainwashing of their education & worship the Almighty Creator

Appropriate place to recommend the helpful menu @ http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/qa.asp

As promised, I've brought in their "Revised & Expanded Answers Book" by Drs Ken Ham, Jonathan Sarfati, Carl Wieland, Werner Gitt, John Baumgardner, Russell Humphreys, Len Morris, David Catchpoole & others



Here's an amazing menu of online evidence for a young Earth & universe:-:-
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/young.asp



Do hit their website - & the comprehensive 1 @ http://www.creationism.org

& a 2nd menu of articles there - http://www.creationism.org/articles/index.htm


& details of 21 books:- http://www.creationism.org/books/index.htm


& the ID one @ http://www.discovery.org/csc

& more books here:-
http://www.discovery.org/csc/essentialReadings.php

Here's their "Top Questions" link:-
http://www.discovery.org/csc/topQuestions.php

i]This 1 may be especially helpful:-[/i]
http://www.discovery.org/csc/topQuestio ... nEvolution

& this 1:-
http://www.discovery.org/csc/topQuestio ... gentDesign

Jesus said, "The truth will set you free!"

God bless all sincere seekers of truth!

Ian
 
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