Interesting Video about Pre-Trib

[Donovb]

Hello Brothers and Sisters,
I found this interesting video about a per-trib rapture, I gotta say its the best and most informative video that I've seen. Its about a 47 minute video but gave me alot to think about. God Bless.

 

[Kathi]

Per-trib?Is it pre-trib,mid-trib or post-trib?

 

[Donovb]

Lol sorry typed on phone and didn't realize. Pre-trib. Sorry

 

[Kathi]

Interesting thanks for sharing this Donovb.
1 Corinthians 15:51-52;1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 The Lords second coming will be accompanied by the sound of a trumpet.Each of the judgments in Revelation 8-9 is also signaled by a trumpet.The Shofar called the Jewish nation to turn their attention to the Lord and ready themselves for the Day of Atonement,so will the "trump of God" call us to heaven and warn the world of coming judgment.

 

[TOG]

Hello Brothers and Sisters,
I found this interesting video about a per-trib rapture, I gotta say its the best and most informative video that I've seen. Its about a 47 minute video but gave me alot to think about. God Bless.

I listened to the first 7:30 of the video, and I found it to be not only not interesting or informative, but not even very well researched or correct. It's not even based on Scripture, but on the doctrine of dispensationalism, for which he provides no biblical support, but simply assumes to be true. At just before 5 minutes into the video, there's a picture of a calendar with the new moon marked, and he didn't even get a simple thing like that correct. The new moon spoken of in Scripture is the first sliver of the the crescent moon that was actually seen each month. He has it marked as the astronomical new moon, which can never bee seen, but only calculated. That may seem trivial, but it's actually quite significant. It's what's called an anachronism. If you see an anachronism in a Bible study, it should send up red flags all over the place. So, what exactly is an anachronism?

An anachronism is basically something that is not in the correct chronological context. An example would be someone wearing a digital watch in a movie that's supposed to take place in the Middle Ages. What the video does, that I mentioned before, is to take a modern calculation and impose it on thousands of years old Scripture. If that were the only thing, I would attribute it to sloppy research and let it go, but it's not the only thing. Not even in the first 7.5 minutes. He also takes the doctrine of dispensationalism, which wasn't proposed until the 19th century, and imposes that on the feasts of the Lord, instituted over 4 thousand years ago. The same applies to the pre-tribulation rapture.

To summarize, what he's doing is not searching Scripture to arrive at his beliefs, but reading modern doctrines into Scripture, I find that neither interesting nor informative.

The TOG​

 

[Donovb]

That's why you need to watch the whole thing and don't judge on based on the first 7 minutes. Hes ties everything together at the end. I dont agree with your assumption. He does research scripture and shows you where in scripture of you watch more than 7 minutee. Its a 47 minute video.

 

[TOG]

I watched over 15% of the video. That's enough to get an idea of where he's going. It's based on the assumption that dispensationalism is a correct doctrine, which it isn't. If you start from an incorrect position, you'll end up with an incorrect conclusion.

The TOG​

 

[Donovb]

Hey TOG what does Mathew 25:13 mean to you? And would this verse mean anything in the tribulation period?

 

[TOG]

Hey TOG what does Mathew 25:13 mean to you? And would this verse mean anything in the tribulation period?

That verse is part of the parable of the Ten Virgins. That parable is about Christ's return, which will happen after the tribulation. There is nothing anywhere in that story that supports the idea of a pre-trib rapture.

The TOG​

 

[Donovb]

Why would that be a post-trib tribulation if most Christians are going to be persecuted at this time of the end of the Tribulation? Also in your opinion if there is a post-trib than what mortals are going to repopulate the earth in the Millenium if ALL Christians are taken at the post-trib? The wicked? I would not think the wicked would still inhabit the earth at the beginning of this time.

 

[TOG]

Why would that be a post-trib tribulation if most Christians are going to be persecuted at this time of the end of the Tribulation? Also in your opinion if there is a post-trib than what mortals are going to repopulate the earth in the Millenium if ALL Christians are taken at the post-trib? The wicked? I would not think the wicked would still inhabit the earth at the beginning of this time.

Before I support that position, can you please quote the part where I said there would be a post-tribulation rapture, where all the believers would be taken off the earth?

The TOG​

 

[Donovb]

In your above post Mr TOG. Unless I misinterpreted it. Sorry if I did.

 

[TOG]

What I said was "hat parable is about Christ's return, which will happen after the tribulation." I do not believe that there will be a rapture that will remove all Christians from the earth. Christ's kingdom, which will be established after the tribulation, will be here on this earth. After we have been here, on this earth, for a thousand years, there will be a new heaven and a new earth. I don't see any mention there of us going to Heaven, least of all to avoid tribulation.

The TOG​

 

[jasonc]

That's why you need to watch the whole thing and don't judge on based on the first 7 minutes. Hes ties everything together at the end. I dont agree with your assumption. He does research scripture and shows you where in scripture of you watch more than 7 minutee. Its a 47 minute video.

you do realize that TOG is a messianic jew. they do actually know a lot about those feasts. I don't give credence to people that claim im wrong about genesis if they don't know what time shabat is to be commenced. there is a reason why I do that.

 

[TOG]

you do realize that TOG is a messianic jew. they do actually know a lot about those feasts. I don't give credence to people that claim im wrong about genesis if they don't know what time shabat is to be commenced. there is a reason why I do that.

Not quite. I'm more of a Messianic Gentile. I did find some Hebrew ancestry in my family tree once, but I had to go back about 40 generations or so. If what I found is correct, I'm descended both from Judah through King David, and through Joseph. I rather doubt it's correct, though, and I don't think of myself as being a Jew.

The TOG​