Irrufutable evedence that the Watchtower was an NGO/UN

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Irrufutable evedence that the Watchtower was an NGO/UN member for the past 10 years.


http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/amandasjourn ... enter.html

 

[serapha]

Thanks,


I saved that link to my favorites.



~serapha~

 

[Reinhold]

So what's your point? The Watchtower has not denied it.

 

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according to a report they called the UN the beast.

Page 11. The Watchtower do claim they never supported the UN. Here is evidence to the contrary!
*** g98 11/22 11-14 Human Rights for All-A Worldwide Reality! ***

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The International
Bill of Human
Rights

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/amandasjourn ... wake7.html

http://watchtower.observer.org/apps/pbc ... 1/10615008


Universal Declaration of Human Rights

The Watchtower â€Âfights for Human Rightsâ€Â, they claim. They do send their lawyers around the world to attend conferences about Human Rights and Freedom of Religion. They claim the rights of the Human Rights Declaration, but the Watchtower do not allow their own members these rights. This is something they want exclusively for themselves!

Kent Steinhaug

Article 12.

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.



Compare the Watchtowers policy of Disfellowshipping and Shunning!

Universal Declaration of Human Rights


Adopted and proclaimed by General Assembly resolution 217 A (III) of 10 December 1948




On December 10, 1948 the General Assembly of the United Nations adopted and proclaimed the Universal Declaration of Human Rights the full text of which appears in the following pages. Following this historic act the Assembly called upon all Member countries to publicize the text of the Declaration and "to cause it to be disseminated, displayed, read and expounded principally in schools and other educational institutions, without distinction based on the political status of countries or territories."

PREAMBLE

Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,

Whereas disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people,

Whereas it is essential, if man is not to be compelled to have recourse, as a last resort, to rebellion against tyranny and oppression, that human rights should be protected by the rule of law,

Whereas it is essential to promote the development of friendly relations between nations,

Whereas the peoples of the United Nations have in the Charter reaffirmed their faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person and in the equal rights of men and women and have determined to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom,

Whereas Member States have pledged themselves to achieve, in co-operation with the United Nations, the promotion of universal respect for and observance of human rights and fundamental freedoms,

Whereas a common understanding of these rights and freedoms is of the greatest importance for the full realization of this pledge,


Now, Therefore THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY proclaims THIS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS as a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all nations, to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping this Declaration constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, national and international, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance, both among the peoples of Member States themselves and among the peoples of territories under their jurisdiction.

Article 1.

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

Article 2.

Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

Article 3.

Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.

Article 4.

No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.

Article 5.

No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

Article 6.

Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law.

Article 7.

All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.

Article 8.

Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent national tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the constitution or by law.

Article 9.

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.

Article 10.

Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.

Article 11.

(1) Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.

(2) No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under national or international law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.

Article 12.

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.

Article 13.

(1) Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state.

(2) Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.

Article 14.

(1) Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.

(2) This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

Article 15.

(1) Everyone has the right to a nationality.

(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality.

Article 16.

(1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.

(2) Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.

(3) The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.

Article 17.

(1) Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.

(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.

Article 18.

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

Article 19.

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

Article 20.

(1) Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association.

(2) No one may be compelled to belong to an association.

Article 21.

(1) Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his country, directly or through freely chosen representatives.

(2) Everyone has the right of equal access to public service in his country.

(3) The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures.

Article 22.

Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through national effort and international co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.

Article 23.

(1) Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.

(2) Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.

(3) Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.

(4) Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.

Article 24.

Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay.

Article 25.

(1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.

(2) Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.

Article 26.

(1) Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit.

(2) Education shall be directed to the full development of the human personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms. It shall promote understanding, tolerance and friendship among all nations, racial or religious groups, and shall further the activities of the United Nations for the maintenance of peace.

(3) Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.

Article 27.

(1) Everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community, to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific advancement and its benefits.

(2) Everyone has the right to the protection of the moral and material interests resulting from any scientific, literary or artistic production of which he is the author.

Article 28.

Everyone is entitled to a social and international order in which the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration can be fully realized.

Article 29.

(1) Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free and full development of his personality is possible.

(2) In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society.

(3) These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

Article 30.

Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act aimed at the destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein.

 

[Reinhold]

according to a report they called the UN the beast.

So, still doesn't have anything to do with your first message. You present "irrefutable proof" of the Watchtower being registered as an NGO as if this was some new information that caught them in a lie of denying the NGO registration. They have not denied being an NGO, no proof of yours is needed. It's like posting a big message with all sorts of diagrams and proclaiming that you have irrefutable proof that the earth revolves around the sun. Big deal, no one was asking and no one was denying it.

And so what if they call the UN the beast? They also say that all nations of the earth will be destroyed yet they are still registered with governments, make use of the legal system of those governments, rely on public utilities like electricity, water, sewers, etc. provided by local and national governments. That doesn't mean they "belong" to those governments or are part of them. JW's don't believe the UN is the answer to mankind's problems any more than any individiual governments. Jehovah is the only one who can accomplish that, yet the UN puts themselves in that role, pushing God out of the picture, that is basically why they are referred to as the beast.

You can still be no part of this system while still living in the midst of it. In fact, it's impossible to be outside the system, everyone has citizenship to one country or another, fall within the jursdiction of the laws of the land they live in, pay taxes to their government. The US government spends a fortune on the Iraq war and things like that which are partially funded by my tax money, even if I don't like it, I still pay my taxes. Maybe I should scan my 1040 tax forms and send to you so you can post them on the web and say you have irrefutable proof that a JW is supporting war.

-R

 

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the Watchtower taught that he teachings that says anyone a part of the UN is not of God

any part of the UN


that includes the NGO

teaching of 1963

1963 WT convention resolution against joining the United Nations
The Resolution

WE JEHOVAH'S witnesses, met together in [City, State, Country], in one of the "Everlasting Good News" assemblies being held in a continuous chain around the whole world this year of 1963, do this day declare and resolve as follows:

2 THAT the one living and true God, the Creator of heaven and earth, whose name is Jehovah, is the only God whom we fear and glorify. Him alone will we worship; for him only will we be witnesses in the universal contest now in progress over the question, Who is the Everlasting, All-wise, All-powerful God? and him alone will we urge all peoples everywhere, of whatever race, nationality, tribe, color and language, to worship as the true God without equal;

3 THAT the Holy Bible, written under inspiration originally in Hebrew, Aramaic and ancient Greek, is his written Word. It is the channel of the one revealed religion that is the absolute truth and that is the unerring guide to pure worship acceptable to God;

4 THAT God the Creator, to whom his own written Word gives the name Jehovah thousands of times, is the King of Eternity and the Eternal Sovereign of the universe, and to him we owe our supreme allegiance and unqualified obedience. Only by his permission and tolerance have men set up political governments for what is understood to be the public good. His permission for this was not to continue forever or even indefinitely, but was to be brought to an end by the establishment of the kingdom of his beloved Son, the Messiah or Anointed One, the Christ, who was named Jesus when on earth as a perfect man. In the year 1914 the combination of events began on earth that he said would be a visible sign to us that Jehovah God had taken his sovereign power in that year and had set up the kingdom of his Son Jesus Christ for the government of this earth. According to the published information from the Holy Bible, the time then came for all the political nations to yield their sovereignty in the earth peaceably over to the heavenly kingdom of God's enthroned Son Jesus Christ. World history shows that, instead, more than a score of nations, led by Christendom, engaged in a global war for world domination. Because of this course the nations entered into the "time of the end" foretold in the Holy Bible, which will reach a conclusion in their violent destruction;

5 THAT, in order to prevent the destruction of the nations by their own means in war, the nations further refused the surrender of their sovereignty to God's Messianic kingdom by setting up a society of nations, which, since 1945, has taken the form and the name of the United Nations, with international headquarters at New York city. This international organization stands for world sovereignty by political men. For years men without faith in God's kingdom have endeavored to get all people to worship this international image of human political sovereignty as the best hope for earthly peace and security, in fact, the last hope for humanity. To date 111 nations have given worship to this political image by becoming members of it. However, we, as witnesses of the Sovereign God Jehovah, will continue refusing to engage in such idolatrous worship, for we see, under angelic enlightenment, that God has smitten such idolaters with a malignant ulcer, symbolically speaking, that will spell death to them as spiritually diseased image worshipers who worship a man-made political creation rather than the Creator of heaven and earth;

6 THAT radical governments have been formed and taken over the control of powerful nations and they rage like the restless sea against the older, traditional forms of human government that have long ruled the earth. The ideal life for mankind will not come by means of such radical, revolutionary governments, which have already proved themselves unsatisfactory and incapable. God the Creator judicially pronounces such radical political institutions to be dead, death-dealing, as dead as a dead man's shed blood that has congealed. Everyone trying to live in that element must die. We, as witnesses of God the Source of all life, will maintain our Christian steadfastness and have no part in such radical movements, but will hold fast to our Christian neutrality toward all radical and other types of human government over earth;

7 THAT the waters that the people have drunk from the rivers and fountains of human philosophies, political theorists, social organizers, economic advisers and advocates of religious traditions have resulted in no real life-giving refreshment to the drinkers. Such waters have even led the drinkers to violate the Creator's law concerning the sacredness of blood and to engage in religious persecutions and in shedding the blood of even the holy ones and prophets of Jehovah God; for which reason he has judicially decided that they must suffer the full penalty for shedding blood, doing so either as individuals or as a community. We, however, will avoid this divine judicial decision by drinking only of Jehovah as the Fountain of living water, doing so by means of his Holy Word;

8 THAT we will continue to look to Him as the great Sun from whom comes our enlightenment, guidance and healing. We will glorify him and not join idolatrous men in looking to bright-shining ones of mankind as the source of mental and spiritual enlightenment and of worldly prosperity. In this way we save ourselves from taking part with disappointed men in blaspheming God the Creator because the symbolic "sun" that they idolized and looked to for enlightenment and a brighter future has scorched them with unbearably hot world conditions rather than with a healing of the state of mankind;

9 THAT we accept the Bible's proof that Satan the Devil is the "ruler of the demons" and also the "ruler of this world," from whom our Leader Jesus Christ refused to accept any throne of rulership. But ever since the days of Nimrod, king of Babylon, the political system of this world has accepted its throne of political rulership from the satanic "ruler of this world," and to this ruler the worldly political system has paid his fixed price for the throne, rendering him worship and service. Since the decisive year of 1914 the political system of human government has refused to vacate this throne and cease rendering service to the "ruler of this world." For this reason the darkness of God's disfavor has settled down on the kingdom of this worldly political system, and there is no political light to show human rulers the way out of the increasing "anguish of nations." With no repentance they persist in their works for self-salvation, and blaspheme God for paining them by having His witnesses showing that their doomed condition is beyond healing through human remedies;

10 THAT Nimrod in rebellion against Jehovah God founded his capital city Babylon on the Euphrates River in the Middle East, and by its waters this imperial city protected itself and carried on selfish commerce with the peoples. Ancient Babylon has now a modern counterpart that enriches and protects itself by sitting oppressively upon symbolic waters, the peoples, and even holding a religious kingdom over the political kings of this earth. Now the time has come for God to dry up these wealth-bringing protective "waters" and bring about the fall and destruction of Babylon's modern counterpart. As for her political companions, these are marching to the "war of the great day of God the Almighty." Under propaganda and programs inspired by demons and voiced by political systems serving the "ruler of this world," the kings of the earth and their armies are being led, not to the Euphrates River, but to the battlefield with the Hebrew name Har-Magedon (or, Armageddon). We, who are Jehovah's witnesses, will not obstruct them in their military preparations, and yet we will not march with them to Har-Magedon, for we refuse to fight against God Almighty and his kingdom by Jesus the Messiah;

11 THAT, although at present we are obliged to be in this world, we will not breathe in the spirit of this world, for it is not the spirit of God but is the spirit of the devilish "ruler of this world." Led by the spirit of its unseen ruler, the world of mankind has for thousands of years cultivated the works of the fallen, degraded flesh. Now the world is reaping the results of breathing in the spirit of Satan the Devil and cultivating the works of their flesh, which is at enmity with God. Babylon's modern religious counterpart has not cultivated in the people the spirit of God, that they might reap the fruitage of God's spirit to the attainment of eternal life in His new order of things. The world therefore faces an earthquake of world trouble the like of which it has never known, and all its political institutions and its modern religious Babylon will be shaken to bits, even human institutions as imposing and stable as mountains or isolated like islands disappearing;

12 THAT, therefore, we have immediately ahead of us the most momentous period in the history of mankind; the hour of the execution of God's righteous judgment is about to strike, and we are in the day of decision. Whereas we see all the nations of this doomed world marching under superhuman demon influence, it is our resolution to remain immovable on the side of the established Messianic kingdom of Jehovah God, ever praying that he will give us more and more of his spirit. And as we endeavor to cultivate the fruitage of the spirit of God and carry on His pure and undefiled worship, we will keep on the full suit of armor of God and continue fighting, not against blood and flesh, but against the "wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places" until the satanic "ruler of this world" and his demons are abyssed for the thousand years of Christ's reign. We thank Jehovah God for the ministry of his holy angels under Jesus Christ in our behalf. With their help and with the help of his holy spirit and Word we will continue to declare to all peoples without partiality the "everlasting good news" concerning God's Messianic kingdom and concerning his judgments, which are like plagues to his enemies but which will be executed for the liberation of all persons who desire to worship God the Creator acceptably with spirit and with truth.

(The above Resolution was adopted at all 24 assemblies by a grand total of 454,977 conventioners.)

THE YEAR 1991, THE SEPT. 8TH AWAKE! MAGAZINE & THE UNITED NATIONS

So 1991 was that fateful year. The Year, the WTS/G.B. decided to give active "SUPPORT" to the United Nations Organization, as a NGO/DPI. Give support to the "Disgusting Thing" of Daniel. Give support to the "image of the Beast" of Revelation.

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And to think, it all got started with the September 8th, 1991 Awake! magazine on the UN. The September 8th Article the very first of its kind, the first article published by the WTS that begins to show a "different," "changing" viewpoint of this so-called "Disgusting Thing" entity of Daniel and "image" of the beast of Revelation.

The WTS/G.B. has taught, since 1921 (about the "league of Nations" and its successor, the U.N. since 1945) -- that is was truly "Disgusting," an "Abomination!"

But now, in truly "underhanded" fashion, the WTS willingly gives active "SUPPORT" to this political entity, and according to what they teach, even is willing to "receive the "MARK OF THE BEAST." -- 2 Corinthians 4:2

The churches of Christendom have done this, so say the WTS.

It is the UNFORGIVEABLE Sin." The WTS/G.B. teaches that too. (See Revelation 14:9-11; "Revelation/Climax" publication pages 196-198 pars. 32-38; pages 209-211 par. 13-18.)

It is the "MARK OF THE BEAST", says the WTS. -- Revelation 14:9-11

ACTIVE SUPPORT = "MARK OF THE BEAST"

Now, lo and behold, the WTS/G.B. has been fully revealed, to be an ACTIVE SUPPORTER themselves -- the WTS is itself a "Supporter" of the United Nations Organizations as a NGO/DPI.

Now what?

Please listen to what was written about this whole situation, back in 1994, by a small band of JWs dissenters, who published a book called "The Report" Volume I in that same year.

Below is a quote taken from a publication, which was released and distributed in book stores on the along the east coast of the U.S. subsequently after that time. Information from this written document, or quoted material from it, is now presently in over 50 different countries around the world. Placed in the hands of thousands of Jehovah's Witnesses and interested persons, secretly. Quietly placed there years ago.

The primary focus of this particular information is upon the Sept. 8th, 1991 Awake! article on the UN organization. A very strange article. The FIRST of its kind. The VERY FIRST.

(I have permission from the publisher to supply this vital information for this forum.)

Here is the information:

------------"The Report" Vol. I (1994)--------


These are but a few examples that demonstrate the regressions of the Watchtower Society in policy. They have continued to regress into worldly ways and have continued to direct the organization of believers away from Jehovah God -- making them "friends of the world" and thus "enemies" with Jehovah! But how about world events of our time? How has the Watchtower Society approached these events in their literature? How have they spoken out on such events as the Persian Gulf Crisis?

Did you happen to notice during the Persian Gulf Crisis of 1991, that the Watchtower magazine was unusually quiet about the obvious idolatrous patriotism going on in the United States? Did you notice it? Yes, they were also very quiet about the apparent flag craze and flag waving that totally took over the American people during the Persian Gulf Crisis of 1991.

And lastly, the publication has been very quiet about the Satanic role of the pseudo world peace-making organization, the United Nations, in misleading the nations in this conflict. No doubt, many letters poured into Bethel during the Persian Gulf Crisis, asking: "What's going on" that is Biblically speaking? The friends are looking to the Society for answers. And yet, the Society provided no answers, that is in print. They did not point to the Bible to tell us where we are in the stream of time.

Why so silent -- all of a sudden -- so quiet about world issues, where formally there was no hesitation in SPEAKING OUT BOLDLY God's Word concerning the atrocities caused by man's persistent yet futile efforts at autonomy or self-rule? Could it be that some in high positions among Jehovah's Witnesses have adopted a "let's wait and see" attitude about world events? The Watchtower Society has been saying over and over in the publications, "the United Nations is poised to sound the international proclamation of "Peace and Security." Are we not supposed to be looking for the promised cry of "Peace and Security?" Then why is there the threat of war? The nations are supposed to be set to cry "Peace and Security." -- 1 Thessalonians 5:1-3

Clearly, there is confusion among the Jehovah's Witnesses concerning what the immediate future will bring. However, in the not-too-distant future, the Watchtower Society will display their real and true attitude for all to see. What attitude is that? Notice:

"And it must occur in that day [that] the prophets will become ashamed, each one of his vision when he prophesies; and they will not wear an official garment of hair for the purpose of DECEIVING. And he will certainly say: `I am no prophet. I am a man cultivating [the] soil, because an earthling man himself acquired me from my youth on?'"

Yes, the attitude of a Coward! -- Zechariah 13:4, 5; Proverbs 29:25; Revelation 21:8

Even now, leanings in this very direction are very clear for us to see if we compare a recent article dealing with the United Nations as a peace-making entity and previous ones on the same subject. Let's examine these together.

A CHANGE IN VIEWPOINT CONCERNING THE UNITED NATIONS

As we know, it has been said many times in the Watchtower Society's publications that the theme of the entire Bible is God's kingdom. That was the theme of Jesus' ministry and is claimed to be the theme of Jehovah's Witnesses' ministry and message under the direction of the Watchtower Society. However, an article in the September 8, 1991 Awake! never pointed to that kingdom in any form or fashion. That particular article never even mentioned God's Kingdom or any scripture of the Bible to present Jehovah's viewpoint on this disgusting and misleading organization! This was a very unusual article published by the Watchtower Society indeed. Did you notice this while reading the article yourself???

Instead of taking their previous stand of staunch resistance against the U.N., they insinuated to over 11 million readers, most of whom are not Jehovah's Witnesses, that the political organization may be able to bring about their accomplished goal of peace. You may be saying: "How did the article do that?" It was by skillful and adroit use of such noncommittal statements as:

"If this could be done, then the UN's voice of jurisdiction could authoritatively denounce any nation threatening the peace of the world."

Individuals reading this may get the idea that the U.N. is within reach of bringing about this `peace for the world.' In commenting on the Persian Gulf Crisis and the U.N.'s use of force to gain world-peace, the article had this to say:

"Perhaps you are wondering, `Was the UN's role in the Persian Gulf crisis a start in this direction?' It could be."

It is clear that this article made no attempt to clarify to the reader the difference between the false peace that man may be able to temporarily bring and the true peace that the Bible speaks about, which as we know, will come only through the "Prince of Peace," Jesus Christ. (Isaiah 9:6) Nevertheless, someone will say: "The Watchtower Society in the past, has written numerous articles stating these very same points. In fact, the Watchtower magazine over the years has become a hated publication because of taking a firm and adamant stand against the U.N. and it's predictions for the future. They don't have to spell out every detail of the Bible's position on the U.N. each time they write an article on the subject, do they? Everybody knows where the Society stands, right???"

THE TRUMPET BLAST

One might illustrate the problem this way: In war situations, most armies have battle formation cadences and alarm signals set up to alert the troops at any time of the approach of the enemy. Even, the nation of Israel had such a signal to keep the people on the alert and give critical direction in case of attack or formation for battle. How was it done? It was done by the sounding of a horn -- yes, a trumpet blast, an instrument known to be loud and clear! (See Numbers 10:3-9; 31:6) Notice this comment from the Watchtower magazine itself on this timely subject to make the critical point.

"The Aaronic priests alone were authorized to sound the sacred trumpets. The notes they blew must be clear and understandable so that the people might know what was required of them. The apostle Paul wrote: `For truly, if the trumpet sounds an indistinct call, who will get ready for battle? In the same way also, unless you through the tongue utter speech easily understood, how will it be known what is being spoken? You will, in fact, be speaking into the air.' (1 Corinthians 14:8,9)"

The article then makes the vital point as it continues:

"There is responsibility, therefore, for Christ's underpriests [anointed upon earth] today to sound out a clear-cut, easily understandable message from God's Word to all peoples, one that is couched in the language of today, that will stand out from the false and blatant and biased messages of human organizations. FEARLESSLY, and using this journal in a signal manner, as they have done for over eighty-five years, the underpriests of Christ Jesus are sounding forth a clear message from God's Word for this day in which we live ... Not to be overlooked is the fact that this same `trumpet' message sounds the call to warfare against Jehovah's enemies." -- See Watchtower 1968 page 374 par. 12,13.

Well, could we say, as mentioned in the article, that they are `fearlessly using this journal?' That is questionable, wouldn't you say??? Also, did you notice the comment: "The trumpet message sounds the call to warfare against Jehovah's enemies?" And who could be a greater "enemy" of God's people than the "beastly" political organization known as the United Nations which according to Revelation chapter 13 will be "worshipped" along with the "Dragon" in these "last days?" Could there be a greater "enemy" than this shortly-to-be persecutor of God's people? Think about it.

And just as the article pointed out, there is real danger in sounding an "indistinct call" to the troops! There is danger in just "speaking into the air" and thus jeopardizing the lives of unsuspecting millions who depend upon such "trumpet blasts." Therefore, we ask the all-important question: Did the presumed modern-day "Aaronic underpriests" [Governing Body and Watchtower Society associates] dutifully alert the nation [Jehovah's Witnesses] for spiritual battle against `the enemy,' the United Nations? Did they sound a "clear and understandable" message so that the people might know what is "required of them" before Jehovah? Or, was the thrust of this article obscure, ambiguous, cryptic, yes, `indistinct?'

QUESTIONS TO ASK YOURSELF

1)Could the article mislead people who are unfamiliar with Jehovah's Witnesses beliefs giving them the impression that the Witnesses are in favor of the United Nations?

2)Could those who are somewhat familiar with the beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses now conclude that Jehovah's Witnesses have a new policy concerning the United Nations organization and are now in favor of such?

3)And worse, could the Jehovah's Witnesses themselves get the message that it's time to take a new approach to the message of the `enemy?' Yes, `let's soften 'em up a little bit,' then the people will listen better.'

These are questions that we need to give serious and sober consideration to. Our very lives may depend upon our having the proper perspective of this matter.

There is one additional point in this article that has definitely escaped the notice of Jehovah's Witnesses world-wide. They did not recognize on whose shoulders the real responsibility has been placed to "sound this message" about the enemy United Nations Organization. That's right, on that of the Witnesses themselves! Notice this comment from the same article:

"Jehovah's Witnesses firmly believe that the United Nations is going to play a major role in world events in the very near future. No doubt these developments will be very exciting. And the results will have a far-reaching impact on your life. We urge you to ask Jehovah's Witnesses in your neighborhood for more details on this matter."

Now, why does the reader need to "ask Jehovah's Witnesses" in his "neighborhood for more details?" What if there are no Jehovah's Witnesses in his neighborhood at all? What if the nearest Jehovah's Witness is many miles away? What is the reader to do? There was ample room for the article to provide the all-important "details" concerning Bible prophecy and the U.N., wasn't there? But instead, the writers of the article deferred. Yes, they shucked `their responsibility' as trumpet blowers. They shifted the responsibility to the "Jehovah's Witnesses in your neighborhood." Did you notice that??? What treachery! What a cowardly side-stepping of responsibility on the Watchtower Society's part! -- Revelation 21:8


PREVIOUS ARTICLES ON THE UNITED NATIONS

We will now quote from articles written over the years by the Watchtower Society on this very same subject. Notice the pointedness and direct application of Bible prophecy as it relates to the United Nations Organization.


"With `the war of the great day of God the Almighty' impending, why trust in a refuge, such as the U.N., that cannot prove trustworthy? Mankind's only hope for permanent peace is God's heavenly kingdom."  Awake! 2/8/67 pg. 4

"What a disgusting thing in God's sight that religio-political alliance responsible for killing his Son. A similar disgusting conspiracy was to be a feature of Jesus' second presence. It is here now. Today that religio-political world alliance against God's kingdom finds its most powerful expression in the clergy-blessed United Nations. What a disgusting thing this clergy-supported alliance that stands before the attention of the people where God's kingdom should stand!" -- Watchtower, 1961 page 630 par. 5

"The scarlet-colored wild beast and its `ten horns' devastate Babylon The Great (including Christendom), but not because they want to glorify Jehovah God or because they have come to love him now that they have turned to hating the religious harlot ... It is because they still fight against God's Messianic kingdom, for they strive to keep their occupance of earth by their armed might. Yes, the ten-horned scarlet-colored wild beast is still the thing that Babylon the Great hailed as a substitute for God's Messianic kingdom. So those who make up the wild beast opposed those who practice the true Christianity and who preach and faithfully stick to God's Messianic kingdom, in which the Lamb of God, Jesus Christ, serves King under Him." -- Watchtower, 1970 pg. 724, 725 par. 21.

After reading these articles and the pointed comments made in each, we would have to conclude that the former ones are quite different from the September 8th Awake! article.


"AMAZING, ASTONISHING THINGS"

But now, back to the September 8, 1991 Awake! magazine article on the United Nations. It also made these comments:

"The Bible clearly paints a picture showing that the United Nations will very shortly be given power and authority. The UN will then do some very astonishing things that may well amaze you."

"No doubt these developments will be very exciting ... far-reaching."

Why that sounds rather promising! Who wouldn't want to see some "amazing" things done in these dismal days and times? Who wouldn't want to see "exciting things," "far-reaching" things, for the lasting good of all mankind during our lifetime! Who wouldn't want to see the U.N. do such things, especially during our lifetime? This message certainly has appeal to the world! As 1 John 4:5 pointedly warns:

"They originate with the world; that is why they speak [what proceeds] from the world and the world listens to them."

Certainly, if the Watchtower Society continues to use the publications to sound such like messages, the ungodly world will in time start to "listen" to them, also. Think about it.

This is a classic case of "selling out" by telling ungodly people just what they want to hear! Yes, man's efforts will result in "peace and security" through his political governmental arrangements and not Jesus Christ, the "Prince of Peace." (Proverbs 23:23) In fact, it might surprise individuals reading this material to know what the stated purpose of this same said magazine, Awake!, is. This message is printed in the inside cover of each and every Awake! magazine. It says of it's purpose:

"It [Awake!] probes beneath the surface and points to the meaning behind current events."

Now, that's quite a statement! Can we stand before Jehovah and truthfully say that the Society has done just that with the writing of this particular article on the United Nations? Can we truthfully say that? We repeat, nowhere is there one single scripture mentioned in the entire article! No, not one. There is not one solitary mention of God's Kingdom in the whole article! How will the people know from what source real peace will come?

Believe it or not, this is the very first article of it's kind on the vital subject of the United Nations Organization. BUT IT WILL PROBABLY NOT BE THE LAST [caps mine]. There is absolutely no excuse for this! Unfaithfulness is quite evident on the part of the Watchtower Society in the publication of this article! But nevertheless, what conclusion have you reached on this article? Yes, what conclusion do you think you should reach concerning this matter? THIS: The September 8, 1991
Awake! article on the United Nations is a miserable and totally untenable display of cowardice! -- 2 Timothy 1:7

SOMETHING TO PONDER

Ask yourself: Could such a display of cowardice as demonstrated by this article be a promise of what is to come? "What things to come?" you may say. Well, let's notice Daniel 11:32 which says:

"And those who are acting wickedly against [the] covenant, he [King of the North] will lead into apostasy by means of smooth words."

Though this powerful king of the North has not prevailed upon the Watchtower Society as of yet, could this article give us a small clue of what is to happen when he does arrive on the earthly scene? Does it? Could this be a demonstration of the unhealthy influence that the United Nations Organization has over the fear-struck, Zedekiah-like Watchtower Society? Could the United Nations Organization have already taken some hidden action or made some threatening demands upon the Watchtower Society precipitating this new, softened message? Think about it.

FAITHFUL IN SOUNDING THE MESSAGE REGARDLESS

When the faithful prophet Isaiah was asked,

"Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?" He responded "Here I am! Send me." Further, he was told "Go, and you must say to this people, `HEAR AGAIN AND AGAIN . . . .'"

In other words keep repeating this message and do not stop. That was his commission. (See Isaiah 6:8-9.) And for how long? Notice the answer given in verse 11,

"Until the cities actually crash in ruins, to be without an inhabitant, and the houses be without earthling man, and the ground itself is ruined into a desolation."

Yes, preach until the very end, without "letup." (Acts 5:42) As mentioned earlier, prostitution or spiritual adultery is definitely involved in the unfaithful leaders of this organization who dwell in Brooklyn Heights, `selling out truth' for ease of life and filthy lucre. (Proverbs 23:23 and James 4:4) And faithful christians who are still a part of this unfaithful organization of Jehovah's Witnesses must arise from their sleep and come to their senses in order to escape Jehovah's wrath. -- Ephesians 5:13,14; 1 Corinthians 15:33,34

Who will be instrumental in coming to the aid of these christians? This preaching assignment has been given to the "Two-Witnesses" who were prophesied to come in our day and time.

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As is mentioned above, the Sept. 8th, 1991 article, is the first article of its kind published by the WTS, that began to set this special "tone" towards the UN. There are no scriptures in the article, to my knowledge, mentioned at all in this article. When I first read it, back in 1991, it appeared to me (and other friends I knew) to be a "very strange" article published by the WTS, to say the least.

bjc

NOTE: "The Report" (1994) - ISBN 0-9649409-3-0 (This is not an advertisement to promote or sell the book, just an identification # for those who are interested and want to definitely identify the book specifically. One will have to contact the publisher to receive the book.)

The Watchtower's Lies on the UN Scandal!

There are two big lies that the Watchtower is going to tell the world as seen in the Gillies letter to the Guardian newspaper and the letter to all Branches. One lie is the "we didn't know the criteria" defence. The other lie is the "UN library access" defence. This thread shall deal with the "UN library access" defence.

Hawk

The Watchtower is going to tell the Witnesses (and the press for that matter) that "the reason why the Watchtower, as an existing NGO, became "associated" with DPI, was that the Watchtower needed to use the United Nations' library for research material on health, social, environmental, population and ecological problems.

The Watchtower will also tell the Rank and File that the Watchtower had been using the UN library before 1991 without associating with DPI but after 1991 the Watchtower's access would have been denied from the UN library unless the Watchtower became "associated" with DPI.

So is this Watchtower explanation true or is this explanation false.

Well lets look at access to "The Dag Hammarskjöld Library". The link can be found here:

http://www.un.org/Depts/dhl/services.htm#access



quote:

Access

The Dag Hammarskjöld Library is a special library whose mandated role is to serve the information needs of United Nations permanent Mission staff and Secretariat staff; however, permission to use the Library is also given for short periods of time to advanced-level researchers (PhD candidates, authors, etc.) who have found that materials required to complete their research are unavailable at depository libraries.

Persons wishing to establish whether the Dag Hammarskjöld Library has the materials required for their research and to request application forms for access may contact the Senior Reference Librarian at the UN/SA Collection Reference Desk. Completed forms, together with required attachments, are forwarded to the United Nations Security and Safety Service for clearance and issuance of a pass. Owing to security requirements, the clearance procedure generally takes two to three weeks. A Help Line has been set up to provide guidance for external researchers needing assistance in tracking down information about the United Nations and its documentation.

Access to the United Nations Bibliographic Information System (UNBIS) databases is freely available through UNBISnet to any Internet user. For further information contact the Data Base Manager.

Clearly after reading the above url you will conclude that this Watchtower's reason for "partnering" with DPI is false.

You can access the UN library without "association" to DPI. In fact I am not "associated" with DPI and I got the UN reference librarian to facsimile the 1994 Brochure from DPI (that outlines what NGOs have to do to become "associated" with DPI and shown on this thread and at Randy's and Kent's site as well as on the main UN thread).

Even worse is that the UN sends out all of its material it publishes to UN depositories. These depositories are so common that there is even one in my home town of Kingston, Ontario, Canada at the Staffers Library at Queen's University.

These UN depositories have everything and anything about the UN including the General Assembly's, Security Council's and ECOSOC's minutes, resolutions and reports. There are all the volumes of the UN Year Books, all the volumes of the UN's human rights books, volumes of trade books, economic books and population statics books. The UN Depository in Kingston makes up a huge area of the library at Staffers. And oh yeah, it contains some of those pesky UN DPI directories that list all NGOs too - hehehehe.

Also there is a thing called interlibrary loans. I use it all the time. This means my UN depository at Queen's Unversity can request any book or magazine from the UN library on a loan basis. Thus, I can access anything I want from the UN library through my library in town. And, oh yeah, I don't have to be "associated" with DPI either. In fact that is how I am getting my hands on the 1993, 1995 and 1997 UN DPI directories on NGOs - hehehehe - and the UN reference librarian even said to me it was no problem and it would take about a week or two for the shipment to arrive.

So if the Watchtower was supposedly banned from the UN library in 1991 the Watchtower researchers could have easily gone to any UN depository in the greater New York City area and received the exact same stuff as was found at the UN main library.

So is there any UN depositories located in the greater New York City area and close to the WTS headquarters?

Well a list of UN depository libraries near the Watchtower's head office is found here:

http://www.un.org/MoreInfo/Deplib/usa.htm

New York State -- New York City
Columbia University (DL-173EX)
Arthur W. Diamond Law Library
(Attn.: Acquisitions Dept.)
435 West 116th St., Box A-6
New York, NY 10027-7297
Tel: +1 212 854 3743
Fax: +1 212 854 3295
E-mail: lawref@law.columbia.edu
Internet: http://library.law.columbia.edu/


DL-173EX (Apr 1948)
Full deposit: Publications and masthead documents in English

Council on Foreign Relations (DL-203EX)
Library
58 E. 68th St.
New York, NY 10021
Tel: +1 212 434 9583
Fax: +1 212 434 9824
E-mail: clibrary@cfr.org
Internet: http://www.cfr.org/public/


DL-203EX (Jun 1947)
Partial deposit: Publications in English

New York Public Library (DL-175)
Science, Industry & Business Library
188 Madison Ave.
New York, NY 10016
Tel: +1 212 592 7000
Internet: http://www.nypl.org/research/sibl/


DL-175 (Jun 1947)
Partial deposit: Publications in English

New York University (DL-500)
Elmer Holmes Bobst Library
UN Collection
70 Washington Square South
New York, NY 10012-1091
Tel: +1 212 998 2610
Fax: +1 212 995 4442
E-mail: intl.doc@nyu.edu
Internet: http://www.nyu.edu/library/bobst/research/soc/un-govt/


DL-500 (Nov 1949)
Full deposit: Publications and masthead documents in English

St. John's University School of Law (DL-358)
The Rittenberg Law Library
8000 Utopia Parkway
Jamaica, NY 11439
Tel: +1 718 990 1896
Fax: +1 718 990 6649
E-mail: rlasala@sjulawstu.stjohns.edu
Internet: http://www.law.stjohns.edu/law/


DL-358 (Aug 1997)
Full deposit: ODS access and publications in English

So don't let the Watchtower fool you people into thinking that the Watchtower, as an existing Non Governmental Organization (NGO) needed to become "associated" with the Department of Public Information (DPI)in 1991 when regular folks like you or me can access this same UN information all over the world and at the UN library without being "associated" with DPI

hawk

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To know about the "PRINCIPLES GOVERNING UNITED NATIONS DEPOSITORY LIBRARIES" go here:

http://www.un.org/Depts/dhl/deplib/i189a11.htm

I decided to quote this for you:

quote:

I. General


1. In order to make its documents and publications available throughout the world, the United Nations maintains a system of depository libraries to which such documents and publications are sent under the conditions outlined in sections III and IV below.

quote:

V. Extent of Deposited Material

15. All depository libraries shall receive automatically, according to their needs, all publications offered for sale and public information material distributed free, if available in the official language of their choice. Normally, the entitlement shall be limited to material in one official language.

16. Those depository libraries that, in the opinion of the Publications Board, are able to handle a larger volume of material shall receive, in addition, all other generally distributed documents and publications of the United Nations - whether printed or masthead - if available in the official language of their choice. Normally, the entitlement shall be limited to material in one official language.

17. Depository libraries so requesting may receive selected series only from among those included under the deposit entitlement as described in paragraphs 15 and 16 above.

18. Depository libraries that can provide appropriate viewing facilities are entitled to a 50 per cent discount from the list price if they subscribe through the United Nations Sales Section to sets of microform editions of documents and publications.

 

[Vic C.]

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