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Growth Is healing for today?

Are you of those that believe that healing from God died off with the apostles?

Was it the apostles who brought the healing or was it by the Spirit working through the person?
The answer is the Spirit working through the person.
So the next question is, Has the Spirit left the earth?
The answer is not yet, for the Spirit is still at work in those who have been baptized into the Spirit of adoption!
So, unless you are making man more powerful than God by saying the apostles where the healing power of themselves, then we must not blaspheme the works of the Holy Spirit any longer giving credit to the devil, by calling those who still teach healing (by the Holy Spirit), as works of the devil.
The real sorcerers are those who take God’s perfect herbs that He gave to man for healing, and mixes concoctions with man made chemicals that they claim heals us, yet really destroys our bodies.
1 Cor 12:9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
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Of course, healing is for all time; Exodus 15 v 26 God says He is the Lord Who heals us (present tense infinitive). Also Isaiah 53:4,5 then Matthew 8:16,17 and 1 Peter 2:24. That's the Scriptural proof He's already done the work to get it for us, and we have to take possession of it, like the same way the Israelites owned the Promised Land and then had to take possession of it, even though it belonged to them and was God's perfect will (God's perfect will is all man being saved, but yet it's not automatic it has to be taken...).
 
Of course, healing is for all time; Exodus 15 v 26 God says He is the Lord Who heals us (present tense infinitive). Also Isaiah 53:4,5 then Matthew 8:16,17 and 1 Peter 2:24. That's the Scriptural proof He's already done the work to get it for us, and we have to take possession of it, like the same way the Israelites owned the Promised Land and then had to take possession of it, even though it belonged to them and was God's perfect will (God's perfect will is all man being saved, but yet it's not automatic it has to be taken...).
Exactly!! Healing which always comes from God who is Spirit, has always been available to those who repent and obey God's Voice for God is merciful when we look up and exalt Him and His Word as their God.
Sickness and disease is put upon disobedient ones by God as well, just as God showed Moses to show a sign of this to Pharaoh saying, if Pharaoh won't choose to believe and listen to my Word and throws it down, as what I say is nothing to fear, he will believe the second sign of the Plaques he sees come upon him from God for rebellious ones.
Ex 15:26 And said, If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I am the LORD that healeth thee.
KJV
Christ died for all( who so ever will) with the desire to learn how to obey The Word of life by receiving the helper the Spirit of God to write it upon their hearts, no longer just hearers of the Word, but doers of the Word, to come into God's kingdom and be healed, made whole, never hunger, never thirst, life more abundantly for he could only do it once and all had to have opportunity.... but there is one condition, it must be obtained by faith, meaning you have to believe it before you will ever see it in order to receive. If there was not this condition then even those who reject the Truth of Christ would receive their promised land, healing etc... even when they reject the Word of God to live by.
Many don't believe in the miracles of healing as for today saying that all that died with apostles, but that is the lie of the devil to keep them in lack, and because they are being deceived, they will not experience the Blessings of God's Word.
 
Yes Healing is for today.
Jesus already won that victory for us...

Yes he did Glory unto God !
We were headed for destruction at the end of this age in the GWTJudgment under the law of destruction, but God, by the grace of God, made a way for us to have a grace period or time, for we came up short of the glory of God, to hopefully be redeemed by sending His Word of the old covenant law, to be forsaken on the cross to die for our sakes and in our place as well.
He did this by making a flesh body for His Son Jesus because the payment had to be man for man to make it legal. So it was made especially for “The Word” himself to become flesh, then fulfill the law perfectly sinless, yet, God knowing the deeds of ungodly men, be judged in hell, meaning by ungodly devils or the hand of ungodly man, unjustly as if Jesus were a wicked sinner.
This is how Jesus defeated the works of the devil, because the devils thought they were killing him to stop him from taking their power in the earth, yet they actually played into the plan of God by not only falsely accusing him of sin, but also sacrificing the Perfect Lamb of God, who in this mixed act of pleasure and pain or bitter sweet, paid our sin debt that came down through Adams fall, when sin entered in, and released us from the accumulated 613 laws ADDED to God’s Word/Stone 10 commandments that are immovable, that had been added for transgressing the Original 10 in Christ who is eternal and will always be, for they are the Stone/The Christ the very foundation for us to build upon, that the builders of the fleshly temple rejected and stumbled in and brought all those added laws upon their own heads.
We have been set free from keeping the whole law, because God set us free by FORSAKING His Word under the old covenant to die on the cross and He resurrected His Word as our new covenant in the risen Christ whom we must submit under his feet to hear and obey and exalt him up in the world and in our life to follow. God and His Word are one, so in order for us to be reunited with God, His Word whom became flesh had to die, so that we could be joined to The Christ of God resurrected as our new covenant, not circumcised in the fleshly laws that changes no one just to look at them, but in the heart to change it so that we can accept THE WORD to indwell us, so that we can over come the temptations of the devil .
1 Peter 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
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The Word is the Breakfast of Champions, as in over comers of their flesh, to the devils wiles, for they know the Word and he recognizes them too as part of his holy body.
John 6:32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.
33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.
34 Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread.
35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
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Here we see Jesus asking why they want to kill The Word, The Rod, The Law but they did not understand and acussed him of being evil as if crazy for no one laid a hand on Jesus till he entered into hell in the garden being handed over to man‘s hands on the 1st Eve?
John 7:19 Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?
20 The people answered and said, Thou hast a devil: who goeth about to kill thee?
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Rom 7:3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
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In the beginning was the Word...........
 
God never puts sickness on His own children though. We never see Jesus, despite the myriad thousands that were healed, ever one time say "whoa, hold on. Can't heal you, the Father put this on you, can't take it off, you were disobedient. Hope you learn the lesson fast. Come back when you know What He was teaching you."
Everyone He healed, He healed preCross, and so no one was even forgiven at that point. Yet He healed them ALL. And they were all sinners.
 
God never puts sickness on His own children though. We never see Jesus, despite the myriad thousands that were healed, ever one time say "whoa, hold on. Can't heal you, the Father put this on you, can't take it off, you were disobedient. Hope you learn the lesson fast. Come back when you know What He was teaching you."
Everyone He healed, He healed preCross, and so no one was even forgiven at that point. Yet He healed them ALL. And they were all sinners.

You are right about that, The Word can heal anyone who can accept him.
Repentance for sin has always been available to anyone who turned to God, but not the ability to overcome sin. That is what Jesus did for us.

As we can see it is God who, in His anger at sin, publicly makes our sin visible to all with disease and even hardships in our lives. But if we do not hid from Him, but seek repentance, He will heal us.

Num 12:9 And the anger of the LORD was kindled against them; and he departed.
10 And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow: and Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous.
11 And Aaron said unto Moses, Alas, my lord, I beseech thee, lay not the sin upon us, wherein we have done foolishly, and wherein we have sinned.
12 Let her not be as one dead, of whom the flesh is half consumed when he cometh out of his mother's womb.
13 And Moses cried unto the LORD, saying, Heal her now, O God, I beseech thee.
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John 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.

God will not tempt or make man sin, it is the devil who tempts us to be disobedient unto God, diseases and plaques are the punishment from God for the sin as God has Warned us ahead of time not to partake in so that we do not suffer afflictions. When we continue to eat of the forbidden tree(devil’s fruit brought forth by his words) to learn to do good and evil, God said that we will die and all who continue in this ungodly lifestyle is suffering still today for they walk contrary to God eating of the wrong tree, instead of the tree of life (Jesus God’s Word) to gain godly wisdom and brings forth the blessings of God instead of the curses in their life. We no longer have to sacrifice bulls and goats for they did not take away our sins, it just gave us a way to live another year in our sinful ways, never changing us. God does not need the blood of bulls and goats, He owns everything already. It was punishment of hard labor of them and loss of livestock of these sacrifices in order to make them suffer during them, that they were under for their continued sinfulness.
Jesus died to make a way so that we do not have to be afflicted any longer or labor or suffer the loss of livestock of these sacrifices, due to falling into sin for eating the fruit of the devil‘s temptations. He made a better way, by allowing us to offer ourselves as living sacrifices unto God, to take our sinful ways away .
The devil is the tormentor and the adversary as well. When children reject God‘s input and care in their life, He sends them out in the world with out The Father to protect them to fend for themselves, since they want nothing to do with Him, though He is GOOD, they can not hear correction it offends them, so they keep rejecting His Word to live by and travel into the darkness, far from the Light. There is much torment and heat in the darkness of hell! We see it all around us.
Do you know any believers who are ever sick? I am sure you do, and we ourselves have an illness from time to time because our body is still on us and fights to have it‘s way and is Corruptible, but our spirit man is in the process of raising up into the incorruptible body/tent/tabernacle that God has waiting for us for those who persevere and remain faithful to overcome our lusts.
In the mean time, we now understand that if we repent to God for any short comings, that we have the right to healing if we Believe the works that Jesus did on the cross. Not only did Jesus pay our debt, and take all the accumulated laws from us, But his sacrifice made a way to be reunited with God by the Spirit of God whom works in us who keep faithful to cleanse us and nourishes us with the Word which is also the living Water as Jesus called himself, to take away our sins. This is two fold, for it means past sins forgiven, and take away our sins so that we do not do them anymore.
Rom 3:25
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
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When we first come to accept Christ, all of our past sins up to the point are removed from our record. God does this so that no man can boast of why they were accepted, And to make it possible for all to come no matter your past sin. For no man can claim sinless for we all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
But from there, we must begin to walk in the Word and as we learn of him we are now accountable for each new way of thinking we have received. We shall stumble from time to time as our Father is teaching us how to walk in His Word, for we are spiritual babes at first knowing nothing just like all newborn’s are at first, but born this time from above to our mother heavenly Jerusalem by the Spirit who teaches us of the Father.
And as long as we recognize our sin when we stumble as we grow with Christ, and repent of it and turn away, getting back in line to the path that leads to life, by getting back up when we fall and not give up and fall away from our faith, then God is faithful to reach out His hand, which is Jesus His Word, to strengthen us and help lift us back up on our two feet as we are learning how to walk with Christ as our Lord. And as we grow into sons our chastising of the Lord gets less and less as our sinful ways are diminishing with each growing pain that brings us into maturity in Christ. The measure of a full man.

We begin through the fallen Adam, in the image of the beast or our self survival nature of dog eat dog. And that is why Jesus was placed in the manger(animal trough), for He is our Bread that we in our beastly nature ,must feed upon, which came from heaven that proceeds from the Father’s mouth and why he said his body is true meat for us to chew on and his blood drink. For he is The Word of God(The Seed) and his blood is the Spirit of God that forms us into the children of God.
 
God never puts sickness on His own children though. We never see Jesus, despite the myriad thousands that were healed, ever one time say "whoa, hold on. Can't heal you, the Father put this on you, can't take it off, you were disobedient. Hope you learn the lesson fast. Come back when you know What He was teaching you."
Everyone He healed, He healed preCross, and so no one was even forgiven at that point. Yet He healed them ALL. And they were all sinners.

Is it easier to say get up and walk or your sins have been frogiven. True Jesus had not yet shed His blood for us, However it is written of Jesus telling them stop your sinning or do not sin any more or do you beleive in the son of man etc. It was through FAITH in GOD and Faith in what had been written about the coming Messiah that got the woman healed with the issue of blood. All I am saying is we can not really say every one healed or delivered was not forgiven, even before the Cross.
 
I just wanted to say Amen to this that you wrote....
The Word is the Breakfast of Champions,
That is so True....
Thank you and have a wonderful blessed day
Jim
 
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