Is human cannibalism, sinful? Explain.

[Vinny37]

Careful, you're crossing into Gnostic territory. On the contrary:

Rom 12:1 I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship.

1Co 6:19 Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own,
1Co 6:20 for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.


Your reasoning is not sound.

"Using a particular, Paul examined the idea of an act (eg human carnivorism: Rm.14:2) being sinless objectively, but sinful subjectively, and having shown that conscience can be wrong, he rounded off with a warning that whoever opposes their conscience, subjectively sins. What seems wrong (or right) to one person, might not in itself be wrong (or right)."

"Biblically, God more than allows human carnivorianism, BTW (Ac.11:7—kill and eat: global abolition of symbolic unkosherism)."

Both those quotes are begging the question. Again, humans are created in the image of God, and I would argue that that includes our bodies, and were never given as food, unlike plants and animals. And, again, cannibalism was a horrible curse brought on those under the most severe judgement for sin.


Yes, it is objectively sinful and an abomination.


Dealing with animals and what parts to eat or not eat is a matter of taste. Cannibalism is not.

Gnostic slope? Not really. Gnostics generally separated the ideas of soul/body before death; I separate the ideas only after death. Reversing their marriage, perhaps death makes the one become two? PS: αδελφοι in Rm.12 really does cover sisters as well: Paul was not sexist.

Does the imago include biological bodies? We agree that human beings are imagodei. But God does not have a biological body, so biology is not as such included in the image, is it? Per Scripture, cannibalism could result from grave sin, but was not said to be sinful per se or to be punished as such. God’s curse was bringing them to such a state that they even ate their children. But it presumes that his people would have already violated the unkosher-meat ban (eg pig). Should we say that eating pig (once a result of grave sin) and eating human (once a result of grave sin), are in themselves, sinful? Both would have been unkosher under Sinai. I do not see that biblically human flesh was ever globally ruled out, even if not specifically ruled in by the generality of meat & veg.

You asserted: “it is objectively sinful and an abomination.” You might be right, but I do not see your proof/cogent-reasoning.

You said that cannibalism is not a matter of taste. I suspect that both actually can be distasteful. I think that you meant that cannibalism is more than mere distaste, not that the greater (sin?) excludes the lesser (taste).

Anyway, time to close down for the evening.

 

[Vinny37]

If I was shooting my gun in my back yard and didn't trespassed but was shot in my state I can outside of city limits build a gun range and shoot away .cops can ask Me to stop .is the law gonna say I'm guilty of murder ?

In that book I bet he is justifyimg the humans for food as a mainstay .

Your post #38 is somewhat unclear, and I’ll reply to what I guess you mean.

Biblically speaking, neither accidental manslaughter, nor battlefield killing, nor certain defined executions, are murder. Such death would not be, objectively, murder, though to the doer it could subjectively feel as murder (conscientious objectors can believe (wrongly) that taking human life is always sinful; going against individual conscience is, subjectively, sin). Murder is basically the intentional killing of human life for the killer’s non-altruistic reasons (eg hate, greed, guilty cover-up).

If you mean the Spencer Chapman book (#31), as a guest he ate what was on the plate, only hearing later what the meat had been. Whether the jap had been killed in battle (not sin), or brutally murdered (objective sin), I do not know, but I’d argue that Chapman was innocent of any residual sin. I don’t think that he attempted to justify or condemn his hosts.

 

[Vinny37]

You are trying to tell this vet who has been with sf and did see things that the moral choices made in war and that's problematic at best .


Look the guy you quote write a book to be read by pathfinder guys ,socom guys are a breed all their own .dark humour and few get them .they aren't normal .I never was one but I was told I have that in me.

They fight the devil on his terrain because they must but it cost them their souls.

I can't read that book he write .in context it's about his three year time on malaysia fighting the japs.trainimg the locals to kill.i bet arming boys teaching girls to lay traaps and all manner of irregular war.

A five year old knowing how to kill ?

That's the things he had to do.hks statement is more like was I right to ?

In order to go where he goes you must be willing to loose your soul

Im your case ,all the time be ready to eat your friend ,spouse should it come

I told my wife .once I buy a gun I will go all in.i own two.one lies in a safe ,the other the one I like more is loaded by my bed .I train on both and will go into tactical shooting because I want to be prepared.you must train your mind not to hesitate even if it's a boy pointing a gun .and when to shoot and not to.

You can't simply say well it's not a sin and just decide when it happens.whem it does you won't be prepared

That's why I say to ,you must dehumanize a person to do this.warfare is a sin thing .while it's not forbidden in the bible oer se .it's not God's plan and also it's very hard on ones soul what goes on war shouldn't be way to normalize anything .

Pity the men who has to fight in war .pray for them .be compassionate .understand their battles .

But dont normalize the inner demon they fight to control .

I am not seeking to normalise warfare, what C S Lewis (having served in the trenches of WW1 (like J R R Tolkien)) called the aggravation of the normal human situation. I hold that it can be justified (like policing, to protect), but can damage those who fight.

I threw in a Q about whether unintentional cannibalism is sinful. This forum is to analyse a particular (ie cannibalism), in order to consider ethical principles over types of sin, etc. It might that that personally you should bow out, if the discussion is not helpful to you. Bless you.