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Elijah674
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These of John 12:42-43 were REAL Believers, and it tel's of their problem! There was a 'church fold' loved more than that which made the Church! Jesus Himself! How it is with the today ones?
Phil. 4
[13] I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
Phil. 4
[10] That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
(compare 1 John 2:4!)
[11] If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.
[12] Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.
[13] Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,
[14] I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
This is what [[FAITH]] is ALL ABOUT! (otherwise it would not be [[BY FAITH!]]. These of Heb. 11:13 [ALL DIED *IN* THE FAITH!]
2 Cor. 12
[7] And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.
[8] For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me.
[9] And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
[10] Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.
(Yet, Eternally CONDITIONAL! Acts 5:32)
And Faith!
James 2
[8] If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
[9] But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
[10] For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
[11] For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
[12] So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
(And these Commandments come directly from the Eternal Covenant of the tables of stone that Christ wrote & then rewrote in ones Born Again heart, if they are Born Again! Heb. 10:15-16)
[13] For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.
[14] What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
[15] If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
[16] And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
[17] Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
[18] Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
(There will NO SAVED PERSON when Christ comes again, whose professed Faith does not compel them to OBEY THE ETERNAL COVENANT! The 7th Day Sabbath INCLUDED! James 2:10)
[19] Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
[20] But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
.....
[26] For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
Yet, this is just one false doctrine of today Only Believism! (OSAS)
Notice the above verse 'as the body without the spirit is D-E-A-D, so is FAITH without working Obedience!! (see Acts 5:32 for who only has the Holy Spirit!)
Two thoughts there seen to find satin's flawed lies of Gen. 3. These ones teach NO LOVING WORKS NEEDED, plus even the Vain (verse 20 above!) Lost Eternally ones of Obad. 1:16 + maggots in hell are 'IMMORTAL SPIRITS'!
You best dump this garbage as well as their mother [[RIGHT FAST]] before it is to late! Rev. 18:4
--Elijah
Phil. 4
[13] I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
Phil. 4
[10] That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
(compare 1 John 2:4!)
[11] If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.
[12] Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.
[13] Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,
[14] I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
This is what [[FAITH]] is ALL ABOUT! (otherwise it would not be [[BY FAITH!]]. These of Heb. 11:13 [ALL DIED *IN* THE FAITH!]
2 Cor. 12
[7] And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.
[8] For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me.
[9] And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
[10] Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.
(Yet, Eternally CONDITIONAL! Acts 5:32)
And Faith!
James 2
[8] If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
[9] But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
[10] For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
[11] For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
[12] So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
(And these Commandments come directly from the Eternal Covenant of the tables of stone that Christ wrote & then rewrote in ones Born Again heart, if they are Born Again! Heb. 10:15-16)
[13] For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.
[14] What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
[15] If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
[16] And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
[17] Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
[18] Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
(There will NO SAVED PERSON when Christ comes again, whose professed Faith does not compel them to OBEY THE ETERNAL COVENANT! The 7th Day Sabbath INCLUDED! James 2:10)
[19] Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
[20] But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
.....
[26] For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
Yet, this is just one false doctrine of today Only Believism! (OSAS)
Notice the above verse 'as the body without the spirit is D-E-A-D, so is FAITH without working Obedience!! (see Acts 5:32 for who only has the Holy Spirit!)
Two thoughts there seen to find satin's flawed lies of Gen. 3. These ones teach NO LOVING WORKS NEEDED, plus even the Vain (verse 20 above!) Lost Eternally ones of Obad. 1:16 + maggots in hell are 'IMMORTAL SPIRITS'!
You best dump this garbage as well as their mother [[RIGHT FAST]] before it is to late! Rev. 18:4
--Elijah
Rom. 8:14 finds only these ones LED & IN CHRIST of verse 1 ibid. (Rom. 8:1)