Bible Study Is the Bible, of any Value ?

[Jay T]

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works." [2 TIM. 3:16, 17.]

The word of God is like a treasure-house, containing everything that is essential to perfect the man of God.

We do not appreciate the Bible as we should.

We do not have a proper estimate of the richness of its stores, nor do we realize the great necessity of searching the Scriptures for ourselves.

Men neglect the study of the word of God in order to pursue some worldly interest, or to engage in the pleasures of the time.

Some trivial affair is made an excuse for ignorance of the Scriptures given by inspiration of God.
But anything of an earthly character might better be put off, than this all-important study, that is to make us wise unto eternal life.

My heart aches as I see men--even those who profess to be looking for Christ's coming,--devoting their time and talents to circulating books that contain nothing concerning the special truths for our time,--books of narrative, books of biography, books of men's theories and speculations.

The world is full of such books; they can be had anywhere; but can the followers of Christ engage in so common a work when there is crying need for God's truth on every hand ?

It is 'not' our mission to circulate such works (such as 'Left Behind' series, Harry Potter books, ect.)
There are thousands of others to do this, who have as yet no knowledge of anything better.

We have a definite mission, and we ought not to turn from it to side issues, employing men and means to bring to the attention of the people books that have no bearing upon the present truth.

 

[irishrain]

The word of God is like a treasure-house, containing everything that is essential to perfect the man of God.

The only place one will find that treasure(Truth) is in His Word.

Mat 13:44 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.
Col 2:3

How valuable to you are the hiddden treasures of wisdom and knowledge contained in the Word of God? It sure was worth a lot to the Queen of Sheba to come hear the treasures of wisdom God had given unto Soloman.

Mat 13:45 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls:
pearls of truth

Mat 13:46 Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it.

Mat 13:47 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:
There are creatures of every kind, both clean and unclean, found in the sea(Rev 17:15). The clean fish are good and edible but the unclean scaverngers are toxic just like tares and are no fit to eat.

Mat 13:48 Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.
There shall be a dividing of that which is clean from that which is unclean. Can you discern the difference between that which is is Holy and that which is profane?

Mat 13:49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,

Mat 13:50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
That's the plan and the good news is that the world shall be rid of wickedness forever!

You won't find those goodly pearls of wisdom , and treasure of truth in books written by man. Man will deceive you, for there are many deceivers come into the world. Matt 24:5

 

[Jay T]

You won't find those goodly pearls of wisdom , and treasure of truth in books written by man. Man will deceive you, for there are many deceivers come into the world. Matt 24:5

Had the Bible been studied as it should....there never would have been those people, who would attend Sunday worship services.
They would have followed their Lord's example, and worshipped on the day Jesus Christ did.

 

[Windozer]

Well Jay,

There certainly are a lot of (we do not(s) in your post.
Would you mind if I asked you to speak for yourself?
Thanks but no thanks. I do not aspire to be counted among your description. Nor do I agree with you.

Hey, no problem.
God will not force anyone into heaven, against their will.

 

[Jay T]

You won't find those goodly pearls of wisdom , and treasure of truth in books written by man. Man will deceive you, for there are many deceivers come into the world. Matt 24:5

And the Bible tells us that ....'satan, which deceives the whole world', (Rev. 12:9).....has in the past, and will again during the Great Tribulation to come. Sunday worship services, which the Bible predicted he would be a tool for that deception, (Daniel 7:25.....'think to change times and laws').

 

[irishrain]

You won't find those goodly pearls of wisdom , and treasure of truth in books written by man. Man will deceive you, for there are many deceivers come into the world. Matt 24:5

And the Bible tells us that ....'satan, which deceives the whole world', (Rev. 12:9).....has in the past, and will again during the Great Tribulation to come. Sunday worship services, which the Bible predicted he would be a tool for that deception, (Daniel 7:25.....'think to change times and laws').

Yes, Satan uses now and will use then pulpits most. 2 Cor 11:13-15. Most people look to what their preacher says without checking him or her out with what Gods word says. I am no knocking churches, where would we be without them. But we were told to prove all things 1 Ths 5:21.

We are also told to be fruit testers.

Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
sheep's clothing meaning preachers
beware of false prophets Matt 24:4-5, Mark 13:5-6,Luke 21:8

Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Mat 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
the corrupt tree is of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, from and of satan. 2 Cor 11:2-4

Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Mat 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
That is the fate that awaits the Tree of knowledge of good and evil which deceives the whole world Rev 20:10.

Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Jay T, How do you think Satan will change times and laws?

 

[Jay T]

Jay T, How do you think Satan will change times and laws?

ANSWER:
To complete the sacrilegious work, Rome presumed to expunge from the law of God the second commandment, forbidding image worship, and to divide the tenth commandment, in order to preserve the number.

The spirit of concession to paganism opened the way for a still further disregard of Heaven's authority. Satan, working through unconsecrated leaders of the church, tampered with the fourth commandment also, and essayed to set aside the ancient Sabbath, the day which God had blessed and sanctified (Genesis 2:2, 3), and in its stead to exalt the festival observed by the heathen as "the venerable day of the sun." This change was not at first attempted openly. In the first centuries the true Sabbath had been kept by all Christians....as Jesus said: "IF you love me, keep my commandments", (John 14:15).

They were jealous for the honor of God, and, believing that His law is immutable, they zealously guarded the sacredness of its precepts. But with great subtlety Satan worked through his agents to bring about his object. That the attention of the people might be called to the Sunday, it was made a festival in honor of the resurrection of Christ. Religious services were held upon it; yet it was regarded as a day of recreation, the Sabbath being still sacredly observed.

To prepare the way for the work which he designed to accomplish, Satan had led the Jews, before the advent of Christ, to load down the Sabbath with the most rigorous exactions, making its observance a burden.

Now, taking advantage of the false light in which he had thus caused it to be regarded, he cast contempt upon it as a Jewish institution (Which the Bible never claims). While Christians generally continued to observe the Sunday as a joyous festival, he led them, in order to show their hatred of Judaism, to make the Sabbath a fast, a day of sadness and gloom.

In the early part of the fourth century the emperor Constantine issued a decree making Sunday a public festival throughout the Roman Empire.

The day of the sun was reverenced by his pagan subjects and was honored by Christians; it was the emperor's policy to unite the conflicting interests of heathenism and Christianity. He was urged to do this by the bishops of the church, who, inspired by ambition and thirst for power, perceived that if the same day was observed by both Christians and heathen, it would promote the nominal acceptance of Christianity by pagans and thus advance the power and glory of the church. But while many God-fearing Christians were gradually led to regard Sunday as possessing a degree of sacredness, they still held the true Sabbath as the holy of the Lord and observed it in obedience to the fourth commandment.

The archdeceiver had not completed his work. He was resolved to gather the Christian world under his banner and to exercise his power through his vicegerent, the proud pontiff who claimed to be the representative of Christ. Through half-converted pagans, ambitious prelates, and world-loving churchmen he accomplished his purpose. Vast councils were held from time to time, in which the dignitaries of the church were convened from all the world. In nearly every council the Sabbath which God had instituted was pressed down a little lower, while the Sunday was correspondingly exalted. Thus the pagan festival came finally to be honored as a divine institution, while the Bible Sabbath was pronounced a relic of Judaism, and its observers were declared to be accursed.

The great apostate had succeeded in exalting himself "above all that is called God, or that is worshiped." 2 Thessalonians 2:4.

He had dared to change (Daniel 7:25) the only precept of the divine law that unmistakably points all mankind to the true and living God. In the fourth commandment, God is
revealed as the Creator of the heavens and the earth, and is thereby distinguished from all false gods. It was as a memorial of the work of creation that the seventh day was sanctified as a rest day for man. It was designed to keep the living God ever before the minds of men as the source of being and the object of reverence and worship.

Satan strives to turn men from their allegiance to God, and from rendering obedience to His law; therefore he directs his efforts especially against that commandment which points to God as the Creator.

Protestants now urge that the resurrection of Christ on Sunday made it the Christian Sabbath. But Scripture evidence is lacking. No such honor was given to the day by Christ or His apostles. The observance of Sunday as a Christian institution had its origin in that "mystery of lawlessness" (2 Thessalonians 2:7, R.V.) which, even in Paul's day, had begun its work.

Where and when did the Lord adopt this child of the papacy?

What valid reason can be given for a change which the Scriptures do not sanction?


DOCUMENTATION:

"Protestants accept Sunday rather than Saturday as the day for public worship 'after' the Catholic Church made the change .....BUT the Protestant mind does not seem to realize that....in observing the Sunday, they are accepting the authority of the spokesman for the church, the Pope", ('Our Sunday Visitor', February 5, 1950).

Romans 6:16 "Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness ?"


"Sunday is a Catholic insitution,and its claims to observance can be defended only on Catholic principles....Fromthe beginning of scripture to the end (Genesis-Revelation) there is not one single passage that warrants the transfer of public worship from the 7th day of the week, to the 1st day of the week", ('Catholic Press', Sydney, Autralia, August, 1900).


"IF Protestants would follow the Bible, they shouldworship God on the Sabbath day. In keeping the Sunday they are following a Law of the Catholic Church" (Albert Smith, Chancellor of the Archdiocese of Baltimore, replying for the Cardinal, in a letter dated February 10, 1920).

"The Church changed the observance of the Sabbath to Sunday by right of the divine, unfallable authority given her by her founder, Jesus Christ.
The Protestant claiming the Bible to be their only guide to faith, has no warrant for observing Sunday.
In this matter, the Seventh-Day Adventist is the only consistent Protestant", ("The Catholic Universe Bulletin', August 14, 1942).


"It was the Catholic church which by the authority of Jesus Christ, has transferred this rest (from the Bible Sabbath) to Sunday....Thus the observance of Sunday by the Protesant is in homage they pay, in spite of themselves, to the authority of the Catholic Church", (Monsignor
Louis Segur, 'Plain Talk about the Protestant of Today', Page 213).

 

[Imagican]

Nice posts JayT. Niice to see that I'm not the only one that understands a bit of the history of the Catholic Church.

And look at the churches. Look what has happened by changing God's Word. Do you think that the Holy Spirit is present in disobedience? A spirit, no doubt, but the Holy Spirit? Hardly.

 

[Jay T]

Nice posts JayT. Niice to see that I'm not the only one that understands a bit of the history of the Catholic Church.

And look at the churches. Look what has happened by changing God's Word. Do you think that the Holy Spirit is present in disobedience? A spirit, no doubt, but the Holy Spirit? Hardly.

Some church-goers feel that it is not really that important about the Sabbath-Sunday issue.
BUT, they fail to really understand the full impact of what Romans 6:16 is saying........
Romans 6:16 "Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness ?"

 

[MrVersatile48]

The last 4/5 posts seem to focus on just 1 example of following human ideas rather than Man's Maker's Manual: the Bible

I'm very short of time, so I'll just focus attention on a major passage contrasting the unique wisdom of our Almighty Creator with the sheer folly of men who are 'wise in their own eyes' - 1 Corinthians 1:18-25

Finally, I saw on Wed that 2/3 Christian TV stations began series on seeking 1st 'the spirit of wisdom & revelation' from God

Charles Price, of Toronto People's Church, is in a series on Proverbs that, I think, is repeated tonight

On Sky freeview, the Christian TV stations are on channels 671/679

I think he's on UCB-TV: channel 677

Must go!

Ian

 

[Jay T]

The last 4/5 posts seem to focus on just 1 example of following human ideas rather than Man's Maker's Manual: the Bible

That is what I been saying all along......forget Sunday worship services, as they are not of God.

Sunday worship services is a man-made institution, based on false ideas, which the Lord Jesus Christ never indorsed.