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Is the Holy Spirit Feminine?

What "gender" is the Holy Spirit?

  • 1. Male!

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  • 3. Neither!

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Soma-Sight

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SUPPORTING EVIDENCE THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS FEMININE



If any of you lack wisdom [Sophia], let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

- James 1:5

If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

- Luke 11:13


Perhaps the first argument which can be offered in support of the feminine gender of the Holy Spirit is Her association with "the spirit of wisdom"(Exodus 28:3; Ephesians 1:17). In both the Old and New Testaments, Wisdom is often personified in the feminine gender:

"Say that Wisdom is thy sister" (Proverbs 7:4)


"Wisdom has built a house for herself, and set up seven pillars" (Proverbs 9:1)

Proverbs chapters 8 and 9 are in fact an extended allegory of Wisdom depicted as a woman.

"Wisdom is known by her children" (Matthew 11:19; Luke 7:35)

"Therefore also said the Wisdom of God, I will also send them prophets and apostles . . ." (Luke 11:49). In this text our Lord is equating the "Wisdom of God" with the Holy Spirit who provided Divine inspiration to those who wrote the Scriptures (2 Peter 1:21). He refers to Wisdom in the feminine gender.

The Old Testament word for "wisdom" is chokmah which has the feminine ending.[/b[

The New Testament word - in the Greek - is sophia - also feminine. In fact "Sophia" is the name for a goddess of wisdom in the Greek pantheon. It should be obvious that the Early Church, when reading the Greek Septuagint - the translation of the Old Testament for the Greek-speaking Jew - would have made the connection between that goddess and the Holy Spirit. Of course, a Gentile Christian would have known that the Holy Spirit was not a Greek goddess. Rather, he would have confessed that the Holy Spirit was the true Sophia in contrast to the pagan imitation.

The connection between the Holy Spirit and Sophia is more pronounced in the Apocrypha. The Apocrypha are writings from the Intertestamental Period which was contained in the Septuagint but are not included in our modern Bibles. (They are regarded as deutero-canonical by the Anglican Church).

For Sophia is a loving spirit. . . For the Spirit of the Lord filleth the world.


- Wisdom of Solomon 1:5,7

For Sophia, which is the worker of all things, taught me: for in her is an understanding spirit, holy, one only. . . For she is the breath of the power of God, and a pure influence flowing from the glory of the Almighty . . . And being but one, she can do all things: and remaining in herself, she maketh all things new: and in all ages entering into holy souls, she maketh them friends of God and prophets. For God loveth none but him that dwelleth with Sophia.

- Wisdom chapter 7 (excerpts)

And thy counsel who hath known, except thou give Sophia, and send thy Holy Spirit from above?

- 9:7

In the writings of the Early Church, Wisdom (Sophia) is preserved as feminine (e.g. the Shepherd of Hermes)

Jesus associates the "spirit of truth" with the Holy Spirit (John 16:13). Sophia and the Holy Spirit share identical roles (1 Corinthians 2:7-11; Romans 5:5; 1 John 5:6-7 KJV). Were it not for the masculine bias of later theologians, the Church would likely have acknowledged the allegorical associations in the Old Testament as literal theophanies of the Holy Spirit.


The second argument which can be offered in support for the feminine gender of the Holy Spirit is found in the very names ascribed to God and the Holy Spirit. The name for God in the Hebrew language is "Elohim". Most scholars acknowledge that this word has a plural ending, which some use to suggest an Old Testament anticipation of the Trinity. What most scholars either do not know or care not to inform their constituents is that "Elohim" is not the plural of "El" the masculine form of the name. It is plural of the feminine, "Elowah". Strictly speaking, we can translate the Old Testament name for God as "goddesses".

Such a fact is naturally shocking to traditionalists who are largely ignorant of the origins of their faith. We do not favor, however, a translation of the name for God into the feminine because masculine pronouns are used in association with "Elohim". But we do argue that the use of the feminine ending by Divine Revelation ought to settle unequivocally that God's being encompasses both the masculine and feminine genders. Indeed, when describing man as made in God's image, the Scriptures say,

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

- Genesis 1:27

Thus indicating that both genders exist in the Godhead.

That the Holy Spirit is the designated representation of the feminine principle is further supported by the Hebrew word for "spirit". I quote now Jerome, the author of the Latin Vulgate:

In the Gospel of the Hebrews that the Nazarenes read it says, "Just now my mother, the Holy Spirit, took me." Now no one should be offended by this, because "spirit" in Hebrew is feminine, while in our language [Latin] it is masculine and in Greek it is neuter. In divinity, however, there is no gender.

- Jerome's Commentary on Isaiah 11

This explanation contains an astonishing admission. First, it tells us that there was a tradition among a sect of Early Christians which believed that the Holy Spirit was our Lord's spiritual mother. Second, Jerome - a more orthodox figure cannot be imagined - admits that the Hebrew word for "spirit" (ruach) is feminine, meaning that for the 1st Century Christians - who were largely operating in the Aramaic world (Paul's churches were tiny in comparison) - the Holy Spirit was a feminine figure. It was lost in the translation from the Hebrew into the Greek, and then it was changed to a masculine gender when it was translated from the Greek into the Latin.

Finally, Jerome's theological bias leads him to believe the distinction of gender is unimportant. He believes there is no gender in God, therefore, it does not matter whether God is referred to as a "he" or a "she" or an "it", presumably. With many centuries of misogynist behavior by Christian leaders behind us, I think it does matter. We are not allowed to change one "jot or tittle" of the Law, and if God is represented as a being encompassing both the masculine and feminine genders, then we are foolish to hide that fact in our translations of the Sacred Text.

The third argument which can be offered is the example of early Christian leaders in how they handled this doctrine. In his Homily on Jeremiah 15, the learned Origen argued the case that the Holy Spirit was Christ's mother. In a more practical application, Methodius - also a leader with an impeccably orthodox reputation - states directly that the family is meant to reflect analogously the blessed Trinity:

[T]he innocent and unbegotten Adam being the type and resemblance of God the Father Almighty, who is uncaused, and the cause of all; his begotten son [Seth] shadowing forth the image of the begotten Son and Word of God; whilst Eve, that proceedeth forth from Adam, signifies the person and procession of the Holy Spirit.

- Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 6, p. 402

The Didascalia, a 3rd Century clergy manual, commanded the churches that, "the deaconess should be honored by you as the Holy Spirit is honored". Thus, officially confirming that the role of the Holy Spirit is of a feminine nature.

It should be emphasized that we are not saying that the Holy Spirit is a woman. Neither is God the Father a man. We are made in God's image. God is not made in our image. We must maintain a theistic perspective, rather than a humanistic one. The Holy Spirit is not married to the Father, nor is She His wife in any human sense of the word. Rather, marriage is a creaturely reflection of the glorious unity which exists within the Trinity. As long as we remain loyal to the Ecumenical Creeds, we will not go astray with this doctrine.

In conclusion, we affirm that it is not impious, nor does it in any way diminish the deity of the 3rd Person, to address the Holy Spirit as a "She" rather than as a "He". While we do not favor the call for a gender neutral Bible, we do believe that a new translation of the Scriptures is in order - under the supervision of the Desposyni - which will correct the Latin biases which have been carried over from the Vulgate.



http://www.grailchurch.org/sophia.htm
 
Lol. We have similar questions. I've been wondering about the gender of the Holy Spirit. If there is a Trinity, then is it a family? The Father is mentioned, the Son is mentioned, and then the Holy Spirit is mentioned...

Human family = father + son + mother
Trinity = Father + Son + Holy Spirit?

What or who is the Holy Spirit exactly? I've been struggling with this concept. Forgive my memory, but if the Old Testament speaks of the Holy Spirit with a feminine-case noun or pronoun (as Hebrew observes feminine and masculine gender in their language structure) then it may be feminine in gender. Interesting thread, Soma.
 
Just as the Father is neither male nor female, so the Holy Spirit is neither as well.
 
Soma,

Do you have any insight regarding if we are able to see Holy Spirit in the kingdom?

thanks :angel:
 
From what I can tell from Genesis, people were made male and female so they would not be lonely. We can't say the same thing about God.
 
+JMJ+

Yet two points remain:

1.) God only reveals Himself to us how He sees fit.

In Sacred Scripture when our Blessed Lord refers to the Holy Ghost in a pronoun He says, "He".

And I will ask the Father:and He shall give you another Paraclete, that He may abide with you forever. The Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it receiveth Him not, nor knoweth Him not"
John 14:16-17)

2.) Now the generation of Christ was in the this wise. When His mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child, of the Holy Ghost." (Matt. 1:18)

If Mary conceived by a feminine deity.....well....(Getting kinda sticky here).
This would be against the natural order of the Creator.

What say you?
 
Fulton Sheen's Warrior said:
+JMJ+

Yet two points remain:

1.) God only reveals Himself to us how He sees fit.

In Sacred Scripture when our Blessed Lord refers to the Holy Ghost in a pronoun He says, "He".

And I will ask the Father:and He shall give you another Paraclete, that He may abide with you forever. The Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it receiveth Him not, nor knoweth Him not"
John 14:16-17)

2.) Now the generation of Christ was in the this wise. When His mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child, of the Holy Ghost." (Matt. 1:18)

If Mary conceived by a feminine deity.....well....(Getting kinda sticky here).
This would be against the natural order of the Creator.

What say you?

Firstly, this verse proves that the Father through the agency of the Spirit conceived Yeshua. He doesn't have two fathers.

Secondly, as far as your "he" references, you must understand that the Greek word for "he" is the same word used for "it/she/her/him" etc (the word is autos).

The translation of "he" etc depends upon the gender of the object. In this case, the word for "spirit" in Greek is neuter. "It" would be just as good a translation.

You can't go by an English version of the bible...
 
wavy said:
Fulton Sheen's Warrior said:
+JMJ+

Yet two points remain:

1.) God only reveals Himself to us how He sees fit.

In Sacred Scripture when our Blessed Lord refers to the Holy Ghost in a pronoun He says, "He".

And I will ask the Father:and He shall give you another Paraclete, that He may abide with you forever. The Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it receiveth Him not, nor knoweth Him not"
John 14:16-17)

2.) Now the generation of Christ was in the this wise. When His mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child, of the Holy Ghost." (Matt. 1:18)

If Mary conceived by a feminine deity.....well....(Getting kinda sticky here).
This would be against the natural order of the Creator.

What say you?

Firstly, this verse proves that the Father through the agency of the Spirit conceived Yeshua. He doesn't have two fathers.

Secondly, as far as your "he" references, you must understand that the Greek word for "he" is the same word used for "it/she/her/him" etc (the word is autos).

The translation of "he" etc depends upon the gender of the object. In this case, the word for "spirit" in Greek is neuter. "It" would be just as good a translation.

You can't go by an English version of the bible...

First, God the Father conceived God the Son through God the Spirit. Jesus became fully God and fully man at his conception and became at that moment in time, God's only begottenn Son. Prior to that event, Jesus was God the Word.

Secondly, the pronouns in the Greek language are gender specific, and have four basic forms in the first, second, and third person. The pronouns also have unique endings depending on the number (singular or plural).

The gender specific are masculine, feminine, and neuter. The four case forms are Nominative, Genitive, Dative, and Accusative and are in the 1st person, 2nd person, or 3rd person masculine, 3rd person feminine, and 3rd person neuter.

See the diagram below:

pronouns.gif

The 3rd person pronoun he, she, or it will be defined by the masculine, feminine, or neuter ending of the pronoun. The direct object, indirect object, or subject is determined by the ending as well.

The translators of the English Bible have done an exceptional job and one only need a lexicon to make a determination of what is being said. One good place of reference online is http://unbound.biola.edu/

Here is the translation of John 14:17 into the KJV from the Textus Receptus 1550/1894:

Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

το πνευμα της αληθειας ο ο κοσμος ου δυναται λαβειν οτι ου θεωρει αυτο ουδε γινωσκει αυτο υμεις δε γινωσκετε αυτο οτι παρ υμιν μενει και εν υμιν εσται

Notice that the pronoun him is translated from the Neuter Gender αυτο, and the pronoun him is referenced to the Neuter Gender Subject πνευμα (Spirit). The pronoun αυτο is used three times in this verse.



 
I voted niether....

The Holy Spirit is 7 part spirit found in Isa 11:2.....this is a Messianic prophecy and shows that the Messiah will have these attributes....

Isa 11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: (Messiah)
Isa 11:2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;
Isa 11:3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:
Isa 11:4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.


These are attributes of God's Holy Spirit that Jesus recieved upon his baptism.....These are attributes....not a person...there is no male of female...the HS is an it....
 
Soma,

Do you have any insight regarding if we are able to see Holy Spirit in the kingdom?

thanks

Have you felt the wind blow through you as you are Blessed by The Spirit?

Does it feel Maternal or...???

The Holy Spirit is as the Wind, to me it is gentle like the touch of a Mother.

You can "see" the kingdom in your Heart right here right now if you are pure.

Yes we will be able to "see" the Holy Spirit in the Kingdom as it ties all life together back to Father.

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Soma-Sight said:
SUPPORTING EVIDENCE THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS FEMININE



If any of you lack wisdom [Sophia], let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

- James 1:5

If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

- Luke 11:13


Perhaps the first argument which can be offered in support of the feminine gender of the Holy Spirit is Her association with "the spirit of wisdom"(Exodus 28:3; Ephesians 1:17). In both the Old and New Testaments, Wisdom is often personified in the feminine gender:

"Say that Wisdom is thy sister" (Proverbs 7:4)


"Wisdom has built a house for herself, and set up seven pillars" (Proverbs 9:1)

Proverbs chapters 8 and 9 are in fact an extended allegory of Wisdom depicted as a woman.

"Wisdom is known by her children" (Matthew 11:19; Luke 7:35)

"Therefore also said the Wisdom of God, I will also send them prophets and apostles . . ." (Luke 11:49). In this text our Lord is equating the "Wisdom of God" with the Holy Spirit who provided Divine inspiration to those who wrote the Scriptures (2 Peter 1:21). He refers to Wisdom in the feminine gender.

The Old Testament word for "wisdom" is chokmah which has the feminine ending.[/b[

The New Testament word - in the Greek - is sophia - also feminine. In fact "Sophia" is the name for a goddess of wisdom in the Greek pantheon. It should be obvious that the Early Church, when reading the Greek Septuagint - the translation of the Old Testament for the Greek-speaking Jew - would have made the connection between that goddess and the Holy Spirit. Of course, a Gentile Christian would have known that the Holy Spirit was not a Greek goddess. Rather, he would have confessed that the Holy Spirit was the true Sophia in contrast to the pagan imitation.

The connection between the Holy Spirit and Sophia is more pronounced in the Apocrypha. The Apocrypha are writings from the Intertestamental Period which was contained in the Septuagint but are not included in our modern Bibles. (They are regarded as deutero-canonical by the Anglican Church).

For Sophia is a loving spirit. . . For the Spirit of the Lord filleth the world.


- Wisdom of Solomon 1:5,7

For Sophia, which is the worker of all things, taught me: for in her is an understanding spirit, holy, one only. . . For she is the breath of the power of God, and a pure influence flowing from the glory of the Almighty . . . And being but one, she can do all things: and remaining in herself, she maketh all things new: and in all ages entering into holy souls, she maketh them friends of God and prophets. For God loveth none but him that dwelleth with Sophia.

- Wisdom chapter 7 (excerpts)

And thy counsel who hath known, except thou give Sophia, and send thy Holy Spirit from above?

- 9:7

In the writings of the Early Church, Wisdom (Sophia) is preserved as feminine (e.g. the Shepherd of Hermes)

Jesus associates the "spirit of truth" with the Holy Spirit (John 16:13). Sophia and the Holy Spirit share identical roles (1 Corinthians 2:7-11; Romans 5:5; 1 John 5:6-7 KJV). Were it not for the masculine bias of later theologians, the Church would likely have acknowledged the allegorical associations in the Old Testament as literal theophanies of the Holy Spirit.


The second argument which can be offered in support for the feminine gender of the Holy Spirit is found in the very names ascribed to God and the Holy Spirit. The name for God in the Hebrew language is "Elohim". Most scholars acknowledge that this word has a plural ending, which some use to suggest an Old Testament anticipation of the Trinity. What most scholars either do not know or care not to inform their constituents is that "Elohim" is not the plural of "El" the masculine form of the name. It is plural of the feminine, "Elowah". Strictly speaking, we can translate the Old Testament name for God as "goddesses".

Such a fact is naturally shocking to traditionalists who are largely ignorant of the origins of their faith. We do not favor, however, a translation of the name for God into the feminine because masculine pronouns are used in association with "Elohim". But we do argue that the use of the feminine ending by Divine Revelation ought to settle unequivocally that God's being encompasses both the masculine and feminine genders. Indeed, when describing man as made in God's image, the Scriptures say,

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

- Genesis 1:27

Thus indicating that both genders exist in the Godhead.

That the Holy Spirit is the designated representation of the feminine principle is further supported by the Hebrew word for "spirit". I quote now Jerome, the author of the Latin Vulgate:

In the Gospel of the Hebrews that the Nazarenes read it says, "Just now my mother, the Holy Spirit, took me." Now no one should be offended by this, because "spirit" in Hebrew is feminine, while in our language [Latin] it is masculine and in Greek it is neuter. In divinity, however, there is no gender.

- Jerome's Commentary on Isaiah 11

This explanation contains an astonishing admission. First, it tells us that there was a tradition among a sect of Early Christians which believed that the Holy Spirit was our Lord's spiritual mother. Second, Jerome - a more orthodox figure cannot be imagined - admits that the Hebrew word for "spirit" (ruach) is feminine, meaning that for the 1st Century Christians - who were largely operating in the Aramaic world (Paul's churches were tiny in comparison) - the Holy Spirit was a feminine figure. It was lost in the translation from the Hebrew into the Greek, and then it was changed to a masculine gender when it was translated from the Greek into the Latin.

Finally, Jerome's theological bias leads him to believe the distinction of gender is unimportant. He believes there is no gender in God, therefore, it does not matter whether God is referred to as a "he" or a "she" or an "it", presumably. With many centuries of misogynist behavior by Christian leaders behind us, I think it does matter. We are not allowed to change one "jot or tittle" of the Law, and if God is represented as a being encompassing both the masculine and feminine genders, then we are foolish to hide that fact in our translations of the Sacred Text.

The third argument which can be offered is the example of early Christian leaders in how they handled this doctrine. In his Homily on Jeremiah 15, the learned Origen argued the case that the Holy Spirit was Christ's mother. In a more practical application, Methodius - also a leader with an impeccably orthodox reputation - states directly that the family is meant to reflect analogously the blessed Trinity:

[T]he innocent and unbegotten Adam being the type and resemblance of God the Father Almighty, who is uncaused, and the cause of all; his begotten son [Seth] shadowing forth the image of the begotten Son and Word of God; whilst Eve, that proceedeth forth from Adam, signifies the person and procession of the Holy Spirit.

- Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 6, p. 402

The Didascalia, a 3rd Century clergy manual, commanded the churches that, "the deaconess should be honored by you as the Holy Spirit is honored". Thus, officially confirming that the role of the Holy Spirit is of a feminine nature.

It should be emphasized that we are not saying that the Holy Spirit is a woman. Neither is God the Father a man. We are made in God's image. God is not made in our image. We must maintain a theistic perspective, rather than a humanistic one. The Holy Spirit is not married to the Father, nor is She His wife in any human sense of the word. Rather, marriage is a creaturely reflection of the glorious unity which exists within the Trinity. As long as we remain loyal to the Ecumenical Creeds, we will not go astray with this doctrine.

In conclusion, we affirm that it is not impious, nor does it in any way diminish the deity of the 3rd Person, to address the Holy Spirit as a "She" rather than as a "He". While we do not favor the call for a gender neutral Bible, we do believe that a new translation of the Scriptures is in order - under the supervision of the Desposyni - which will correct the Latin biases which have been carried over from the Vulgate.



http://www.grailchurch.org/sophia.htm


This is the stupidest thing ever, are you kidding me? The Holy Spirit if anything is Male. God throughout the bible is known as He, Him, or His.The Holy Spirit is God's spirit, plain and simple.

This is a dumb thread and this shouldn't even bu up for discussion.
 
The Holy Spirit is a Woman, However......

This question comes up often so we did a bit of research and here is what we have found.

What is the Holy spirit?

The holy spirit is described by John as the helper:

26 But the helper, the holy spirit, which the Father will send in my name, that one will teach you all things and bring back to your minds all the things I told you (John 14).

But Adam's wife was described in the same way:

18 And Jehovah God went on to say: It is not good for the man to continue by himself. I am going to make a helper for him, as a complement of him (Genesis 2).

This is not a coincidence. There are no coincidences in the bible. The holy spirit is God's helper, and a complement of him. It is his wife. It is Jesus' mum and Satan's step mum. The four are a family. But the holy spirit is a living intelligent thing because it can plead for us:

26 In like manner the spirit also joins in with help for our weakness; for the [problem of] what we should pray for as we need to we do not know, but the spirit itself pleads/intercedes for us with groanings unuttered (Romans 8).

So since it is a living spirit, it consists of angels. It is a group of angels. It is the group of all the angels who are holy, all the angels who are married to God, all the angels who are in a covenant with God. This is actually all the angels who are baptised into the name of the holy spirit. So it is all the angels who have eternal life. This is all the angels who are declared righteous by God. Hence Paul said:

26 But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother (Galatians 4).

The Jerusalem above is God's heavenly administration which is all of the loyal angels, which is all of the holy spirits. Paul explicitly states that these angels are our Mother. Now mother's plead with father's not to be too hard on errant sons. And that is precisely the meaning of Romans 8:26, the holy spirit interceding with God for the sanctified ones, is the mother interceding with the father for her sons. The Holy Spirit is the Mother of everyone living spiritually whereas Adam called his wife Eve because:

20 After this Adam called his wife's name Eve, because she had to become the mother of everyone living (Genesis 3).

So God does have a family, and in this family he is the father, the holy spirit is God's wife. Just as we as individuals become Jesus' wife in the Kingdom of God (provided we make it that far!

Incidentally the holy spirit, or helper or comforter, the spirit of the truth sent by God, is always referred to in the neuter in scripture. However, the spirit of truth, sent by Jesus, which is also called a helper is referred to in the masculine...

26 When the helper arrives that I will send you from the Father, the spirit of the truth, which proceeds from the Father, that one will bear witness about me (John 15).

7 Nevertheless, I am telling you the truth. It is for your benefit I am going away. For if I do not go away, the helper will by no means come to you, but if I do go my way, I will send him to you (John 16).

13 However, when that one arrives, the spirit of the truth, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own impulse, but what things he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things coming (John 16).

This 'spirit of the truth', is the angel of Revelation that presented Revelation in signs to John...

1 A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent forth his angel and presented [it] in signs through him to his slave John (Revelation 1).

So all of the holy angels together are feminine but each individual angel is masculine.

13 But with reference to which one of the angels has he ever said: Sit at my right hand, until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet?
14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth on behalf of those who are going to inherit salvation? (Hebrews 1).

The holy spirit itself is the helper, the ministering spirit for all of us, and so are these angels. So the one is the sum of the others.
 
Hi Soma - Sight,

I cannot subscribe to the belief that they are all masculine. I once thought that, but there are many clues that tell us this may not be true. Since we too become Jesus' wife (and there are males and females in His covenanted ones) I have to believe that God's wife also has both...there are scriptures to support this....

As much as I would like to post this understanding here, the limits won't allow it so here is the link to that section of one of our websites.

http://www.truebiblecode.com/understanding50.html
 
A good clue is to ask if a female conceived Jesus in the womb of Mary.
 
So; you theological geniuses can't decide which gender specific the Holy Spirit is, eh?

Guess what? You are in good company.

Martin Luther agonized, prayed and wept over Romans 8:26, and whether the word "itself" should not instead be translated "himself". He struggled over which gender the Holy Spirit is as well.

So don't feel bad if you can't figure it out.

IMH&HO: The Holy Ghost is referred to in the masculine when gender is attached. If feminine, the Holy Spirit could not have impregnated Mary when she was overshadowed, and conceived Jesus. Spirit is always masculine.

To make the Holy Spirit feminine because of a correlation with Sophia, is an illogical stretch. I have a correlation with my wife. That doesn't make me feminine. We need to stop and think before we say things like that.

And to think some people are hypnotized into falling for that kind of stuff!
 
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