Is the vaccine safe?

[JLB]

COVID VACCINE IS NOT SAFE.

MASSIVE: WORLD RENOWNED DOCTOR BLOWS LID OFF OF COVID VACCINE

WATCH THE FULL 1hour 45min INTERVIEW HERE: https://rumble.com/vhp7y5-full-interview-world-renowned-doctor-blows-lid-off-of-covid-vaccine.html?mref=6gby3&mc=98uay MUST WATCH: Dr. Peter McCullough discu

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[JLB]

The Vaccine is not effective, and should not be given to everyone on the planet.



In the video above there are startling questions that need to be answered.

• Why is there a push to vaccinate COVID recovery patients, which are people who have a robust natural immunity against COVID 19?

Who is behind this big push to have a “needle in every arm”


The Stakeholders in the Vaccine are behind this push.


The Stakeholders include but not limited too:


Pfizer
Moderna
Johnson and Johnson
Astrazeneca
FDA
WHO
White House
Gates Foundation.

 

[Edward]

COVID VACCINE IS NOT SAFE.

MASSIVE: WORLD RENOWNED DOCTOR BLOWS LID OFF OF COVID VACCINE

WATCH THE FULL 1hour 45min INTERVIEW HERE: https://rumble.com/vhp7y5-full-interview-world-renowned-doctor-blows-lid-off-of-covid-vaccine.html?mref=6gby3&mc=98uay MUST WATCH: Dr. Peter McCullough discu

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Good video. Informaative.

So for those in the thread calling for people to trust the experts and doctors, is this doctor expert enough for you? Does he have enough letters after his name to inspire confidence?

Are you going to let your pregnant wife get vaccinated?

This whole Covid thing is not about the virus. It's about the vaccine. A biological weapon introduced to the population to boost sales for the stock holders.

Well a half million people died but we made 40 Billion dollars, so let's all celebrate and then we can brainstorm about how to get everyone on earth a dose...

 

[Corn Pop]

Covid in Sydney: Communities feel under siege as troops deployed

Residents say they're being treated like second-class citizens to stem a Covid outbreak.

www.bbc.com

 

[WIP]

Here's another.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=242246807622740

 

[JLB]

Here's another.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=242246807622740

Couldn‘t get it to play.

 

[JLB]

Here is one of the reasons I don’t trust the information being put out about the Vaccine.

'Gold Standard' Study Confirms COVID mRNA Vaccines Prevent Infection

The national study included more than 54,000 patients in the VA system, particularly important because that population has a large percentage of older patients with substantial comorbidities.

www.medscape.com

'Gold Standard' Study Confirms COVID mRNA Vaccines Prevent Infection​

Clinical trials of mRNA vaccines have consistently demonstrated high effectiveness against COVID-19, but now a large, real-world study confirms that the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines are more than 95% effective in preventing confirmed infection.



They are pushing that the vaccine prevents infection of COVID, but people who are vaccinated are still getting infected.

People are still forced to wear masks even though they have been vaccinated… and on and on and on.



JLB

 

[sojourner4Christ]

This took awhile to piece together from the clues, as the enemy continues to run some very elaborate theater. And many of us have already been ahead of the curve.

Q: WHERE IS THE SARS COVI 2 ISOLATE???
A: ONLY IN YOUR IMAGINATION.

TO RESTATE re: the COVID 19 HOAX:

What we’re actually dealing with, in terms of the virus that’s out there now, is that it’s just relabeled coronaviruses and monkey viruses - common recirculating coronavirus segments, including old cold and flu viruses, which have simply been relabeled as covid 19 or SARS COVI 2.

There is a U.S. Patent (#6372224) for a coronavirus vaccine for dogs, from the year 2000 – 21 years ago. In 1999 – 22 years ago – Fauci funded research at UNC Chapel Hill to create the SARS coronavirus (also patented). So, SARS was man made, and various renditions of it have been circulating for a very long time.

And so they just decided that they’re gonna call this covid 19 now, fake the PCR tests, and falsely diagnose everyone with covid, even though everyone is just carrying around fragments of other cold viruses, monkey viruses, flu shot viruses and so on. THERE IS NOTHING NOVEL ABOUT THIS, and the patents prove that.

So this is not a new coronavirus. This is the same stuff Fauci’s been working on for a very long time, and frankly, the thing that’s making people sick is THE SPIKE PROTEIN – not the so-called virus. The spike protein is a toxic nanoparticle that has toxic effects on human physiology and causes vascular damage. And they’re using the scare about covid, hyped up through the false PCR test, in order to push people to get vaccinated with the toxic spike protein that’s causing the symptoms.

People are getting sick right now, with common cold viruses and flu viruses, pneumonia, which is an effect of the lockdowns. People have not had exposure to wild type viruses over the past 1.5 years or so, their immune systems haven’t seen all of that. In effect, you could say people’s immune systems have fallen behind the normal practice of having constant exposure and constant building up and a constant adaptive response that keep the immune system strong. So the lockdowns cause immuno-suppression, and this is translating into the fact that normal cold and flu viruses that previously would not have resulted in severe hospitalization are now causing that effect in some people. Vitamin D deficiency also plays a part. So does constant fear, with the MSM’s psychological terrorism. So does ever-increasing RF exposure. So the perps have several variables to exploit in their relentless push to the main event: forcing the bioweapon into EVERY. SINGLE. BODY.

This is an attack on humanity, through multiple vectors, to try to make people sick. And then, any time someone gets sick, the hospital will run a fraudulent PCR test and call it covid. THIS IS THE SCAM.

What is astounding is the depth of the evil, the depth of the betrayal, by the scientific and medical community. The "vaccine" IS the bioweapon.

 

[Milk-Drops]

This took awhile to piece together from the clues, as the enemy continues to run some very elaborate theater. And many of us have already been ahead of the curve.

Q: WHERE IS THE SARS COVI 2 ISOLATE???
A: ONLY IN YOUR IMAGINATION.

TO RESTATE re: the COVID 19 HOAX:

What we’re actually dealing with, in terms of the virus that’s out there now, is that it’s just relabeled coronaviruses and monkey viruses - common recirculating coronavirus segments, including old cold and flu viruses, which have simply been relabeled as covid 19 or SARS COVI 2.

I can tell you have not read anything related to virology. It is true that there are multiple rhino, Sars, and other various viruses. What I think you are missing is that from the start this was called the NOVAL Sars covi 2 virus because it was new. 19 at the end refers to the year.

There is a U.S. Patent (#6372224) for a coronavirus vaccine for dogs, from the year 2000 – 21 years ago.

Yeah, because there are multiple Corona viruses.
[/QUOTE]

In 1999 – 22 years ago – Fauci funded research at UNC Chapel Hill to create the SARS coronavirus (also patented). So, SARS was man made, and various renditions of it have been circulating for a very long time.

Nope this is completely false. The research was for HIV, there was also no Sars virus invented, the controversy is that the research contained a protein that is present in Sars covi 2....which means nothing really.

And so they just decided that they’re gonna call this covid 19 now, fake the PCR tests, and falsely diagnose everyone with covid, even though everyone is just carrying around fragments of other cold viruses, monkey viruses, flu shot viruses and so on. THERE IS NOTHING NOVEL ABOUT THIS, and the patents prove that.

If only, so far your evidence is your own ignorance of virology and a very factually wrong research project.

So this is not a new coronavirus. This is the same stuff Fauci’s been working on for a very long time, and frankly, the thing that’s making people sick is THE SPIKE PROTEIN – not the so-called virus. The spike protein is a toxic nanoparticle that has toxic effects on human physiology and causes vascular damage. And they’re using the scare about covid, hyped up through the false PCR test, in order to push people to get vaccinated with the toxic spike protein that’s causing the symptoms.

So here comes the ultimate question you can not answer. Why? Why collapse economies, labor forces, supply chains, etc. You know these evil people would still need people to run the economies right?

People are getting sick right now, with common cold viruses and flu viruses, pneumonia, which is an effect of the lockdowns. People have not had exposure to wild type viruses over the past 1.5 years or so, their immune systems haven’t seen all of that. In effect, you could say people’s immune systems have fallen behind the normal practice of having constant exposure and constant building up and a constant adaptive response that keep the immune system strong. So the lockdowns cause immuno-suppression, and this is translating into the fact that normal cold and flu viruses that previously would not have resulted in severe hospitalization are now causing that effect in some people. Vitamin D deficiency also plays a part. So does constant fear, with the MSM’s psychological terrorism. So does ever-increasing RF exposure. So the perps have several variables to exploit in their relentless push to the main event: forcing the bioweapon into EVERY. SINGLE. BODY.

The problem with this thought process is that the reason the lock downs happened was due to massive spikes in infections. People were getting sick way before the lock downs and there are places in the US that resisted the lock downs the entire time. Your hypothesis doesn't hold water.

This is an attack on humanity, through multiple vectors, to try to make people sick. And then, any time someone gets sick, the hospital will run a fraudulent PCR test and call it covid. THIS IS THE SCAM.

What is astounding is the depth of the evil, the depth of the betrayal, by the scientific and medical community. The "vaccine" IS the bioweapon.

What's the end goal? If its an evil plot there would still need to be subjects to rule and people to work.

 

[evenifigoalone]

I can tell you have not read anything related to virology. It is true that there are multiple rhino, Sars, and other various viruses. What I think you are missing is that from the start this was called the NOVAL Sars covi 2 virus because it was new. 19 at the end refers to the year.

Yeah, because there are multiple Corona viruses.

Nope this is completely false. The research was for HIV, there was also no Sars virus invented, the controversy is that the research contained a protein that is present in Sars covi 2....which means nothing really.

If only, so far your evidence is your own ignorance of virology and a very factually wrong research project.

So here comes the ultimate question you can not answer. Why? Why collapse economies, labor forces, supply chains, etc. You know these evil people would still need people to run the economies right?


The problem with this thought process is that the reason the lock downs happened was due to massive spikes in infections. People were getting sick way before the lock downs and there are places in the US that resisted the lock downs the entire time. Your hypothesis doesn't hold water.

What's the end goal? If its an evil plot there would still need to be subjects to rule and people to work.

Milk-Drops, hey guy. Haven't seen you in forever. (I was formerly questdriven)

I took the vaccine back in Feb. Pfizer. Have suffered no illness or ailments aside from already existing ones.

 

[Milk-Drops]

Milk-Drops, hey guy. Haven't seen you in forever. (I was formerly questdriven)

I took the vaccine back in Feb. Pfizer. Have suffered no illness or ailments aside from already existing ones.

Howdy, I hope you are doing well.

 

[sojourner4Christ]

Obviously, Milk-Drops, my post wasn't for your edification...

Meanwhile, we have, at a minimum, thousands of dead people, and tons more maimed, from the jab.

The only "variant" here is the variety of colorful MSM-programmed denials.

I took the vaccine back in Feb. Pfizer. Have suffered no illness or ailments aside from already existing ones.

As all the evidence suggests, time is not on your side.

The problem with this thought process is that the reason the lock downs happened was due to massive spikes in infections. People were getting sick way before the lock downs and there are places in the US that resisted the lock downs the entire time.

"...massive spikes" indeed, as in SPIKE PROTEINS, as I posted; IOW, the "vaccine" IS the bioweapon. Maybe now you can begin to get your head around the connection between the jab and RF.

RF is an immunosuppressant, it suppresses immunity, it increases infection risk.

Electromagnetic fields may act via calcineurin inhibition to suppress immunity, thereby increasing risk for opportunistic infection: Conceivable mechanisms of action - PubMed

While a good number of studies have demonstrated that modern, man-made ambient electromagnetic fields can have both stimulatory and inhibitory effect on immune system function, the precise mechanisms have yet to be completely elucidated. It is hypothesized here that, depending on the parameters...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[evenifigoalone]

Whatever floats your boat I guess. I for one am completely unworried.

 

[Drew]

COVID VACCINE IS NOT SAFE.

MASSIVE: WORLD RENOWNED DOCTOR BLOWS LID OFF OF COVID VACCINE

WATCH THE FULL 1hour 45min INTERVIEW HERE: https://rumble.com/vhp7y5-full-interview-world-renowned-doctor-blows-lid-off-of-covid-vaccine.html?mref=6gby3&mc=98uay MUST WATCH: Dr. Peter McCullough discu

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There are reasons to be concerned about the credibility of Dr. McCullough. Another video of his has been analyzed by factcheck and here are their findings:

Healthy people younger than 50 do not need a Covid-19 vaccine: FALSE​

The CDC says on its website that risk of severe disease from the novel coronavirus increases with age, but National Center for Health Statistics data shows that people under age 50 account for four percent of deaths involving Covid-19.

And a March 26, 2021 article in Science also found that by mid-August 2020 “the resurgence in the United States was largely driven by adults 20 to 49 years of age.”

Olivier Schwartz, head of the Virus and Immunity Unit at the Pasteur Institute, told AFP by phone: “It is obvious that people under 50 who are in good health should be vaccinated” because they can still be affected by the disease.

Bruno Lina, professor of virology at the University of Lyon, said that the aim of a mass vaccination campaign is to reduce the transmission of a virus.

People who have recovered from Covid-19 do not need the vaccine: FALSE​

Around the 12-minute mark of his testimony, McCullough claims: “People who develop Covid have complete and durable immunity.”

He goes on to say, “You can’t beat natural immunity. You can’t vaccinate on top of it and make it better. There’s no scientific, clinical or safety rationale for ever vaccinating a Covid recovered patient.”

However, an article in the journal BMJ found reinfection is possible.

Lina said that “we have the feeling today that the vaccine induces better immunity than certain natural infections.”

He said that for people with less symptomatic bouts of Covid-19, “we observe a rapid loss of antibody titer, and therefore a potential for reinfection faster than that observed with vaccination.”

The Pasteur Institute’s Schwartz also confirmed that people who have contracted Covid-19 have an interest in being vaccinated “because the antibody level decreases in all people.”

 

[Drew]

So for those in the thread calling for people to trust the experts and doctors, is this doctor expert enough for you? Does he have enough letters after his name to inspire confidence?

He is a qualified doctor, yes. However, the overwhelming majority of qualified experts recommend the vaccine. And, per my previous posts, other experts do take issue with a number of things Dr. McCullough has said.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

There are reasons to be concerned about the credibility of Dr. McCullough. Another video of his has been analyzed by factcheck and here are their findings:

Healthy people younger than 50 do not need a Covid-19 vaccine: FALSE​

The CDC says on its website that risk of severe disease from the novel coronavirus increases with age, but National Center for Health Statistics data shows that people under age 50 account for four percent of deaths involving Covid-19.

And a March 26, 2021 article in Science also found that by mid-August 2020 “the resurgence in the United States was largely driven by adults 20 to 49 years of age.”

Olivier Schwartz, head of the Virus and Immunity Unit at the Pasteur Institute, told AFP by phone: “It is obvious that people under 50 who are in good health should be vaccinated” because they can still be affected by the disease.

Bruno Lina, professor of virology at the University of Lyon, said that the aim of a mass vaccination campaign is to reduce the transmission of a virus.

People who have recovered from Covid-19 do not need the vaccine: FALSE​

Around the 12-minute mark of his testimony, McCullough claims: “People who develop Covid have complete and durable immunity.”

He goes on to say, “You can’t beat natural immunity. You can’t vaccinate on top of it and make it better. There’s no scientific, clinical or safety rationale for ever vaccinating a Covid recovered patient.”

However, an article in the journal BMJ found reinfection is possible.

Lina said that “we have the feeling today that the vaccine induces better immunity than certain natural infections.”

He said that for people with less symptomatic bouts of Covid-19, “we observe a rapid loss of antibody titer, and therefore a potential for reinfection faster than that observed with vaccination.”

The Pasteur Institute’s Schwartz also confirmed that people who have contracted Covid-19 have an interest in being vaccinated “because the antibody level decreases in all people.”

I don't need the vaccine - True
I won't get the vaccine - True

 

[Drew]

They are pushing that the vaccine prevents infection of COVID, but people who are vaccinated are still getting infected.

Please provide your sources - who has claimed that the vaccine prevents infection? No one (at least no one credible) has ever claimed that the vaccines are 100% effective in terms of preventing infection. Most of the claims we hear are about preventing severe illness and death - which is what really matters. My understanding is that it has always been somewhat unclear as to the degree of protection the vaccine offers against mere infection.

 

[Drew]

In 1999 – 22 years ago – Fauci funded research at UNC Chapel Hill to create the SARS coronavirus (also patented).

Falsehood - completely untrue.

 

[WIP]

There are reasons to be concerned about the credibility of Dr. McCullough. Another video of his has been analyzed by factcheck and here are their findings:

Healthy people younger than 50 do not need a Covid-19 vaccine: FALSE​

The CDC says on its website that risk of severe disease from the novel coronavirus increases with age, but National Center for Health Statistics data shows that people under age 50 account for four percent of deaths involving Covid-19.

And a March 26, 2021 article in Science also found that by mid-August 2020 “the resurgence in the United States was largely driven by adults 20 to 49 years of age.”

Olivier Schwartz, head of the Virus and Immunity Unit at the Pasteur Institute, told AFP by phone: “It is obvious that people under 50 who are in good health should be vaccinated” because they can still be affected by the disease.

Bruno Lina, professor of virology at the University of Lyon, said that the aim of a mass vaccination campaign is to reduce the transmission of a virus.

People who have recovered from Covid-19 do not need the vaccine: FALSE​

Around the 12-minute mark of his testimony, McCullough claims: “People who develop Covid have complete and durable immunity.”

He goes on to say, “You can’t beat natural immunity. You can’t vaccinate on top of it and make it better. There’s no scientific, clinical or safety rationale for ever vaccinating a Covid recovered patient.”

However, an article in the journal BMJ found reinfection is possible.

Lina said that “we have the feeling today that the vaccine induces better immunity than certain natural infections.”

He said that for people with less symptomatic bouts of Covid-19, “we observe a rapid loss of antibody titer, and therefore a potential for reinfection faster than that observed with vaccination.”

The Pasteur Institute’s Schwartz also confirmed that people who have contracted Covid-19 have an interest in being vaccinated “because the antibody level decreases in all people.”

Also, information that I have found (John's Hopkins University and Mayo Clinic) indicate that, while not totally understood, natural immunity from viral infection appears to only be effective for about 6-8 months, yet, vaccines are expected to be effective for up to a year. The means of protection between an actual viral infection vs mRNA vaccine is different so they are studying these differences to learn.

I haven't found any details but it might be that being infected by one version of the virus may not provide protection from other variants. For example if I understand correctly, the seasonal flu shots are designed to protect against what is predicted to be the most prevalent variants of the flu in the coming year but will not protect against other variants.

 

[WIP]

Please provide your sources - who has claimed that the vaccine prevents infection? No one (at least no one credible) has ever claimed that the vaccines are 100% effective in terms of preventing infection. Most of the claims we hear are about preventing severe illness and death - which is what really matters. My understanding is that it has always been somewhat unclear as to the degree of protection the vaccine offers against mere infection.

I wouldn't go so far as to say preventing severe illness and death is what really matters. I would say it is a major priority and what really matters is to achieve herd immunity so we can stop this virus.

At this time, if the vaccines are not able to prevent infection then they are not able to prevent transference and therefore the vaccines are not able to be effective enough to achieve herd immunity. It is a numbers game.

If the vaccines are capable of reducing the number of infections to some degree, whatever that might be, then it might be possible if enough people get vaccinated then the spread could be slowed enough to achieve herd immunity. From what I've read, herd immunity can't be achieved until roughly 75% of the population, particularly in higher population areas, is immune to infection so the virus runs out of suitable hosts and dies.

So, let's assume that 10% of those vaccinated are still able to become infected and share the virus. We could still achieve herd immunity if the percentage of immune persons is greater than 75%. If only immune persons are vaccinated we would need 85% of the population vaccinated to achieve herd immunity.