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Bible Study Is there God’s words outside the Bible?

There maybe a couple of real prophets out there, but the devil sure is doing his best to corrupt what it can. With the amount of false prophets and prophesies its near impossible to find and believe a true teaching and take anyone serious.

If that is what your talking about outside the bible.

Even if someone called down lighting these days it would just look like a standard dynamo magician trick.
 
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Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities - his eternal power and divine nature - have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

This is really God's word outside the bible. The creation speaks for itself.
 
Whatever you hear, wherever you hear it, let the bible be the standard to test if it's from God or not. If it doesn't line up with scripture, be suspicious. If it actually disagrees with scripture disagree with it, it is not from God.

That said, there are many sources that we have in our lives for understanding God. We have bible studies that range from chapter and verse studies in the bible, topical studies over a subject, history culture and prophesy studies to try and interpret the bible, even language studies to try and understand the original meaning. None of those are the word of God but the commentaries and understandings from them can help our understanding as well. Just be sure to let the bible's words be the standard against any of them, to say if they are valid or not.

There is also a better understanding because of the experiences we have, with also can influence how much trust and faith we have too. Sometimes people's lives are turned around because they turn to God, and even if they don't understand theology, the bible, or even the message of our salvation over the other perspectives out there, they trust God and rely on Him.

Prayer and the Holy Spirit also help us. I really do think God helps many pastors and ministers give their sermon and speak through them for the community listening. I know I've walked away from a few that made me think the sermon was directed specifically to me, and I give God and the Holy Spirit credit for that.

Fellowship, fasting, and following the teachings in the bible also help with our understanding and our faith. But through it all try and keep what's actually in the bible as the standard to measure everything else against, when determining if it's from God or not.
 
It is found in all the commentaries.and it Is found in the hearts of the saints. It is not found in the book of Mormon, book of Enoch nor other such works.
LovethroughDove said:
Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities - his eternal power and divine nature - have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

This is really God's word outside the bible. The creation speaks for itself.
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Thhank you LTD, I did not recall that, my mind is getting more and more feeble.
 
th1b.taylor said:
It is found in all the commentaries.and it Is found in the hearts of the saints. It is not found in the book of Mormon, book of Enoch nor other such works.

Thhank you LTD, I did not recall that, my mind is getting more and more feeble.
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You're on here with all of us still. I think you're doing pretty good. :wink
 
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LovethroughDove said:
You're on here with all of us still. I think you're doing pretty good. :wink
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Thank you, I have always been an extravert but now 99.99% of my interaction is through a machine, strange. But I told the LORD that I want to plow my row 'til I fall over the fence, dead and gone Home.
 
Jack.brook said:
Is there God’s words outside the Bible?
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If there isn't, then no one is walking in the life of faith... for faith comes by hearing God's word [Rhema]

He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.” Revelation 3:22

Those who have ears, let them hear what the Spirit is saying to the Messianic communities. Revelation 3:22 Complete Jewish Bible


JLB

 
th1b.taylor said:
Thank you, I have always been an extravert but now 99.99% of my interaction is through a machine, strange. But I told the LORD that I want to plow my row 'til I fall over the fence, dead and gone Home.
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Bill,

Your a soldier to end! :salute



JLB
 
What’s the difference between two people who stand on the same scripture, when one gets results and the other one doesn’t? The difference is this: the person who didn’t get any results was simply reading the written Word. The person who got results read the written Word and heard a rhema—a voice—Word behind the written Word. Let me explain.

Remember when Jesus asked His disciples, “Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?” (Matthew 16:13). Peter answered, “Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God” (Matthew 16:16). Jesus told Peter, “Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven” (Matthew 16:17).

What Jesus essentially said was that Peter did not pull that knowledge from his own mind; it came straight from the Father to him. What Peter heard from God was revealed knowledge. That’s called revelation!

Revelation knowledge is wisdom. It doesn’t come through the acrobats of your mind or through all of the degrees you’ve earned from schooling. It comes from God! Revelation knowledge is the key to breakthrough and success. When you have a revelation about something, you cannot be defeated!
 
iLOVE said:
What’s the difference between two people who stand on the same scripture, when one gets results and the other one doesn’t? The difference is this: the person who didn’t get any results was simply reading the written Word. The person who got results read the written Word and heard a rhema—a voice—Word behind the written Word. Let me explain.

Remember when Jesus asked His disciples, “Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?” (Matthew 16:13). Peter answered, “Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God” (Matthew 16:16). Jesus told Peter, “Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven” (Matthew 16:17).

What Jesus essentially said was that Peter did not pull that knowledge from his own mind; it came straight from the Father to him. What Peter heard from God was revealed knowledge. That’s called revelation!

Revelation knowledge is wisdom. It doesn’t come through the acrobats of your mind or through all of the degrees you’ve earned from schooling. It comes from God! Revelation knowledge is the key to breakthrough and success. When you have a revelation about something, you cannot be defeated!
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Yes, but but based on your definition and explanation, which I agree with, this revelation, Rhema word, is an uncovering or revealing of the Bible, which is the best way to begin to hear what the Spirit is saying.

Ifbelieve the OP is referencing "words outside the bible", such as The Spirit leading you to give to a specific person a specific amount of money. Or, to speak words to a specific person, go and live in a specific place or pray a specific way for a specific need...

These are words of God that are not necessarily scripture but they come from God.

As many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are the sons of God. Romans 8:14


In addition, What God was demonstrating and confirming through Peter was the New Covenant promise from Jeremiah which says...
31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Jeremiah 31:31-34

That word KNOW is very rich in meaning. Strong's Number: 03045 - Yada`

One of which is... to be instructed

The agent of this instructing is the Holy Spirit, Who is promised to led us and guide us into all truth.


John says it this way -

27 But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him. 1 John 2:27


JLB



JLB
 
I too believe there are "God's words outside of the Bible" in the way you guys are talking about. If there weren't, there would be no reason to ask God for guidance or for answers to anything in our prayers. We just need to watch out for those false prophets that like to stand up like the pharisees and proclaim that God has told them something that we must do or stop doing, or something that is going to happen (as an example, all the false end times "prophesies" I've seen over the years) that isn't mentioned in scripture. That's where it can become hard to know what to believe and we will have to rely on the Spirit to guide us individually on whether to listen to them or not. (And knowing when the spirit is guiding us as opposed to us just wanting to believe something because it fits with our agenda is where spiritual maturity comes in. This is why newer Christians are always encouraged to get counseling from the spiritually mature Christians in their circle of fellowship in these kind of things!) It's pretty obvious when the so called "prophet" is saying things contrary to scripture, or pronouncing a vulgar curse on people, especially on Christians as I have seen some infamous pastors do on TV, but many times the things these people say are so purposely vague that it's hard to actually cite a reason they are going against the word of God that we already have in scripture. This is where we need to rely on the Spirit and on the counsel of elders for discernment.

But really, even relying on the Spirit for this discernment means you are expecting a "word" from God which isn't written in scripture. Same thing with looking for guidance or wisdom on a subject, or even just having a general openness to God directing you to do something that is outside of what you had in mind or what you normally would have done is hearing words from God that are outside of scripture. I mean, really, if we never got this kind of communication from God, how could we even know he truly is alive and real? We just have to make sure it's from God by making sure it lines up in principle with existing scripture.
 
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Jhn 21:25 - And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
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So probably yes, but our vetting process needs to be Holy Spirit driven.
 
Obadiah said:
I too believe there are "God's words outside of the Bible" in the way you guys are talking about. If there weren't, there would be no reason to ask God for guidance or for answers to anything in our prayers. We just need to watch out for those false prophets that like to stand up like the pharisees and proclaim that God has told them something that we must do or stop doing, or something that is going to happen (as an example, all the false end times "prophesies" I've seen over the years) that isn't mentioned in scripture.
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:amen
 
Obadiah said:
I too believe there are "God's words outside of the Bible" in the way you guys are talking about. If there weren't, there would be no reason to ask God for guidance or for answers to anything in our prayers. We just need to watch out for those false prophets that like to stand up like the pharisees and proclaim that God has told them something that we must do or stop doing, or something that is going to happen (as an example, all the false end times "prophesies" I've seen over the years) that isn't mentioned in scripture. That's where it can become hard to know what to believe and we will have to rely on the Spirit to guide us individually on whether to listen to them or not. (And knowing when the spirit is guiding us as opposed to us just wanting to believe something because it fits with our agenda is where spiritual maturity comes in. This is why newer Christians are always encouraged to get counseling from the spiritually mature Christians in their circle of fellowship in these kind of things!) It's pretty obvious when the so called "prophet" is saying things contrary to scripture, or pronouncing a vulgar curse on people, especially on Christians as I have seen some infamous pastors do on TV, but many times the things these people say are so purposely vague that it's hard to actually cite a reason they are going against the word of God that we already have in scripture. This is where we need to rely on the Spirit and on the counsel of elders for discernment.

But really, even relying on the Spirit for this discernment means you are expecting a "word" from God which isn't written in scripture. Same thing with looking for guidance or wisdom on a subject, or even just having a general openness to God directing you to do something that is outside of what you had in mind or what you normally would have done is hearing words from God that are outside of scripture. I mean, really, if we never got this kind of communication from God, how could we even know he truly is alive and real? We just have to make sure it's from God by making sure it lines up in principle with existing scripture.
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Yes, Finding brothers and sisters you trust and submitting to one another in the fear of the Lord.


JLB
 
For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount. We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
(2Pe 1:17-19)

Rhema Word was already discussed above.

Peter makes a distinction between two Words. One, He heard the voice of God the Father on high. He was there, saw the Miracles, and heard. That really happened, Peter was there and just as much God speaking as the Written Word.

HOWEVER:

Peter goes on to say, despite hearing and being there, We have a MORE SURE WORD OF PROPHECY, that is more sure than what we experience and/or hear.

So, we all need to get direction, and go to Walmart, Look for a guy in a red shirt, can not be backed by scriptures. It can still be God speaking directly to you through the Holy Spirit who tells us what He hears. If you go to Walmart, there just may be a guy in a red shirt, and talking with them, you see the next step.
If you don't go, then you will never see the guy with the red shirt.

Here is something else. If the guy in the red shirt was told to go to Walmart and meet you, they can also decide not to obey, and you show up with no guy in the red shirt being present. Then you question if you heard God or not, but we have to mature past this. Our Job is just to be there looking for the guy.

Eli had a Word from God, but it was a personal Word to Eli.

Wherefore the LORD God of Israel saith, I said indeed that thy house, and the house of thy father, should walk before me for ever: but now the LORD saith, Be it far from me; for them that honour me I will honour, and they that despise me shall be lightly esteemed.
(1Sa 2:30)

So, despite the Lord saying He did say Eli's house shall walk forever before him, it's not a more sure Word. It's a Word to Eli, and it changed because Eli changed. Had Eli not changed, that Word would have been kept forever.

So, Prophets that want to speak this will happen and that will happen in America for example is not a More sure Word. It's just them running on about what they think the Lord is saying to them.

Prophecy needs to be activated with a chance to change something that is going to end up wrong. The Lord does not just say your doomed, without the plan to make you not doomed.

Who receives a prophet, gets his reward. A real word from God from someone needs received and acted on for it to be true in your life. These things just don't happen because someone Heard God on something. There will always be direction to receive the reward as that is in line with how God spoke through the prophets.

Someone saying, God is going to make you rich, is not saying how that is exactly going to happen. That is just some guy talking to get you excited and hopefully give them some cash.

All things need judged, and we need to receive right prophecy as not to miss out on what God is doing and learn to discount the rest. Like Eli, Action needs to be taken on our part.

Mike.
 
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