Is this Prophecy or promise??

[Carry_Your_Name]

>>>Of course not, as long as they keep his Laws and His commandments. Did they?

Ask a Jew, which I am not.

>>>
Acts 10:34
Then Peter began to speak: "I now truly understand that God does not show favoritism,

“Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.” - Rom. 9:13
"So the last will be first, and the first last. For many are called, but few chosen." - Matt. 20:16

God may not show favoritism, but he surely has a prophetic timetable set in order.

>>>Absolutely. But you fail to list 100"s of conditions which he commands in return.

Deut. 4:1 Now, Israel, hear the decrees and laws I am about to teach you. Follow them so that you may live and may go in and take possession of the land the LORD, the God of your ancestors, is giving you.

God had promised to restore the remnant of Israel, read the entire chapter of Jer. 31.

>>>How do you know? He doesn't need to ask you, He may did!

Because as a matter of fact, the chicoms have no control over Taiwan, despite a few futile attempts. Geographically, Taiwan is situated at a strategic point that blocks them from the Pacific Ocean, it has been this way for nearly 75 years, and it will continue unless God allows them to pass.

>>>If they kept his Laws and commandments.

Again, read the entire chapter of Jer. 31, especially 31:31-34. It didn't say Europeans and Americans, It said the House of Judah and the House of Israel (Ephraim). In Matt. 15:24 Jesus declared His own commission, "I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Any of us Gentile are assimilated into God's commonwealth of Israel (Eph 2:12).

>>>1Thessal. 2:15 Those Jewish persecutors killed both the Lord Jesus and the Prophets, and drove us out of their midst. They are displeasing to God and are the enemies of all mankind.
(can you call this anti jews)?

Is God a liar??

Seriously man, are you comparing us with the Hamas beasts who rape women, kill infants and broadcast their brutality?

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

>>>The land from the Nile to Euphrates, which they never control since Jacob till now. please look at Deut. 7:12 and tell me how big the "IF"? When you're done go to next chapter 8:19 and look at another "IF".
Do you know 47% of the Jews living in Israel atheist?
Do you know Israel for the fourth year voted to be the friendliest place to LGBTIQQ?
According to you, God very pleased now ha?

"The land from the Nile to Euphrates" was given to Abraham's descendants, when it came to Jacob, it dwindled down to the narrow strip land of Canaan, i.e. "from the river to the sea". The rest was given to Ishamel's and Esau's descendents, which are the Arabs. When Esau sold his birthright to Jacob, Esau and uncle Ishmael no longer own the land, Israel does.

 

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Ask a Jew, which I am not.

>>>Although there are too many example, you can look for yourself, but the most important one which you know very well is denying Jesus Christ as their Messiah.

“Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.” - Rom. 9:13

>>>God hates no babies before they born and committed no sins.
go back and read Gen. 25:23 "two nations."

God had promised to restore the remnant of Israel, read the entire chapter of Jer. 31.

>>>IF they obey and fellow His commandments and believe in His Messiah.

Seriously man, are you comparing us with the Hamas beasts who rape women, kill infants and broadcast their brutality?

>>>I am not. But Hamas didn't put 6 million Jews in Ovens, and called them the children of the devils, did they?
For hundreds of years, Jews were the most hated, abused community in Europe.

 

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"The land from the Nile to Euphrates" was given to Abraham's descendants, when it came to Jacob, it dwindled down to the narrow strip land of Canaan, i.e. "from the river to the sea". The rest was given to Ishamel's and Esau's descendents, which are the Arabs. When Esau sold his birthright to Jacob, Esau and uncle Ishmael no longer own the land, Israel does.

>>>Agree. IF they obey God and fellow his commandments and believe in His Messiah.
Jesus said: they didn't. Matt.21:33. But you said: they did!
Who shall I believe, you or Jesus?

 

[Free]

>>>You are right, it's about 50/50 some nation and some people.

I am asking because i thought the "kingdom of God" means blessing, authority and for people who God preferred or chose.
All these benefits which God gave to the Jews, Jesus said is no longer. God take it away and give it to someone else.

Do you agree?

Who was Jesus talking to?

Mat 21:45 When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard his parables, they perceived that he was speaking about them. (ESV)

The Jewish leaders, not the nation as a whole. The plain evidence of this is that the Church began with thousands of Jews.

 

[Tempo]

Who was Jesus talking to?

>>>To the "unbelieving Jews"

Mat 21:45 When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard his parables, they perceived that he was speaking about them. (ESV)

The Jewish leaders, not the nation as a whole. The plain evidence of this is that the Church began with thousands of Jews.

>>> Pharisees, Sadducees, Essenes or anyone deny the Messiah, they all the same. "Unbelievers", and I am not talking only about the Jews, I am talking about anyone on the planet, who deny the Messiah.
Matt. 23:37, Did Jerusalem as a city with walls and stones killed the Prophets?
When a Jew believe and fellow the Messiah, he/she no longer a Jew.
When a Muslim believe and fellow the Messiah, he/she no longer a Muslim.
When a Hindus believe and fellow the Messiah, he/she no longer a Hindu.
There is not a single Jew believe in NT, Jesus as God, prophet, Messenger, son of God or even ever exist. what do you call them?

 

[Free]

>>>To the "unbelieving Jews"

No, he was speaking to the leaders who were leading the people astray. Even then, not all the leaders were bad; some of them believed in Jesus. I gave verse 45 where the Jewish leaders perceived he was speaking of them.

Just look at Matt 23.

>>> Pharisees, Sadducees, Essenes or anyone deny the Messiah, they all the same. "Unbelievers", and I am not talking only about the Jews, I am talking about anyone on the planet, who deny the Messiah.
Matt. 23:37, Did Jerusalem as a city with walls and stones killed the Prophets?

I'm not sure what you're saying here.

When a Jew believe and fellow the Messiah, he/she no longer a Jew.

Is that so?

When a Muslim believe and fellow the Messiah, he/she no longer a Muslim.
When a Hindus believe and fellow the Messiah, he/she no longer a Hindu.

Of course not, because those religions aren't extensions of Judaism like Christianity is. The first believers were Jews who believed that Jesus was their long awaited Messiah.

There is not a single Jew believe in NT, Jesus as God, prophet, Messenger, son of God or even ever exist.

Are you sure?

Act 2:46 And day by day, attending the temple together and breaking bread in their homes, they received their food with glad and generous hearts,
Act 2:47 praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to their number day by day those who were being saved.

Act 3:1 Now Peter and John were going up to the temple at the hour of prayer, the ninth hour.

Act 10:45 And the believers from among the circumcised who had come with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit was poured out even on the Gentiles.

Act 15:5 But some believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees rose up and said, “It is necessary to circumcise them and to order them to keep the law of Moses.”

Act 16:1 Paul came also to Derbe and to Lystra. A disciple was there, named Timothy, the son of a Jewish woman who was a believer, but his father was a Greek.

(All ESV.)

what do you call them?

They are Jewish believers, also known as Messianic Jews, and are distinct from Gentile believers, as I've shown above, although many may just refer to themselves as Christians.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

>>>Agree. IF they obey God and fellow his commandments and believe in His Messiah.
Jesus said: they didn't. Matt.21:33. But you said: they did!
Who shall I believe, you or Jesus?

Who are “they”? A few religious elites who eventually condemned Jesus to death, or the general public, the first believers, including his own twelve apostles? This is a typical strawman argument I mentioned previously, blowing things out of proportion, taking an extreme case to represent the whole.

 

[Consecrated Life]

Who was Jesus talking to?

Mat 21:45 When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard his parables, they perceived that he was speaking about them. (ESV)

The Jewish leaders, not the nation as a whole. The plain evidence of this is that the Church began with thousands of Jews.

Exactly, the distinction between good fruit bearing Jews and rotten apple bearing Jews being made clear the day that Peter was dragged before the religious leaders, after he held a come to Jesus meeting.
A day that 5000 Jews accepted Christ and became fruit bearers.

Act 4:4
Howbeit many of them which heard the word believed; and the number of the men was about five thousand.

Act 4:6
And Annas the high priest, and Caiaphas, and John, and Alexander, and as many as were of the kindred of the high priest, were gathered together at Jerusalem.

Act 4:7
And when they had set them in the midst, they asked, By what power, or by what name, have ye done this?

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

>>>God hates no babies before they born and committed no sins.
go back and read Gen. 25:23 "two nations."

Nonetheless, two nations which started off with two babies.

>>>IF they obey and fellow His commandments and believe in His Messiah.

Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the Lord. But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”

>>>I am not. But Hamas didn't put 6 million Jews in Ovens, and called them the children of the devils, did they?
For hundreds of years, Jews were the most hated, abused community in Europe.

Hamas is worse. Nazis at least committed holocaust in secrecy, Hamas openly streamed their brutality, and the whole world was and still is cheering for them!

 

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Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the Lord. But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”

28:2 And it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to observe and to do all his commandments which I command thee this day, that the Lord thy God will set thee on high above all nations of the earth:

28:15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:


>>>You don't think by denying Jesus is The Messiah, is big deal to God?

Hamas is worse. Nazis at least committed holocaust in secrecy, Hamas openly streamed their brutality, and the whole world was and still is cheering for them!

>>>https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-66968029

 

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Who are “they”? A few religious elites who eventually condemned Jesus to death, or the general public, the first believers, including his own twelve apostles? This is a typical strawman argument I mentioned previously, blowing things out of proportion, taking an extreme case to represent the whole.

>>>God made the covenant with all the children of Israel. He didn't make it only with Pharisees, Sadducees, Essenes or the scribes.
Now when Jesus said: God will take away this covenant and give it to another nation or people, he is talking about the "children of the covenant" as a whole. (Matt. 21)

1King 19 Elijah replied, “I have zealously served the LORD God Almighty. But the people of Israel have broken their covenant with you, torn down your altars, and killed every one of your prophets. I am the only one left, and now they are trying to kill me, too.” “Go out and stand before me on the mountain,” the LORD told him.

God said: The people of Israel.
Not the Pharisees.
Not the Sadducees.
Not the Leaders.

 

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They are Jewish believers, also known as Messianic Jews, and are distinct from Gentile believers, as I've shown above, although many may just refer to themselves as Christians.

>>>Again, simple question:
There are a Christ believing Jews.
And there are Christ disbelieving Jews.
This means, Not all Jews believing.
And Not all Jews disbeliever.
Are they both group the same?

Some Muslims leave Islam and fellow Christ.
Is all Muslims saved?

 

[Tempo]

Who are “they”? A few religious elites who eventually condemned Jesus to death, or the general public, the first believers, including his own twelve apostles? This is a typical strawman argument I mentioned previously, blowing things out of proportion, taking an extreme case to represent the whole.

>>>Question: Do Muslim who die not believing in Jesus (the Messiah), saved?

 

[Free]

>>>Again, simple question:
There are a Christ believing Jews.
And there are Christ disbelieving Jews.
This means, Not all Jews believing.
And Not all Jews disbeliever.
Are they both group the same?

Some Muslims leave Islam and fellow Christ.
Is all Muslims saved?

Of course not, on both counts. Why are you asking these questions with such obvious answers?

 

[Tempo]

Of course not,

>>>Thank you.

on both counts. Why are you asking these questions with such obvious answers?

>>>we agree all the Jews (remnant), who accept Jesus as their Messiah, are saved.
What about the majority who deny Jesus as their Messiah, are they saved?

 

[Free]

What about the majority who deny Jesus as their Messiah, are they saved?

Obviously not. Again, why are you asking questions with obvious answers?

 

[Tempo]

Obviously not. Again, why are you asking questions with obvious answers?

>>>Through my dialogue with other Christians some believe Jews who doesn't believe in Jesus Are saved too, and God still honoring the covenant between Him and them even if they don't believe in Jesus.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

28:2 And it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to observe and to do all his commandments which I command thee this day, that the Lord thy God will set thee on high above all nations of the earth:

28:15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:


>>>You don't think by denying Jesus is The Messiah, is big deal to God?


>>>https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-66968029

I think by denying God's eternal covenant to his chosen people is a big deal to God.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

>>>God made the covenant with all the children of Israel. He didn't make it only with Pharisees, Sadducees, Essenes or the scribes.
Now when Jesus said: God will take away this covenant and give it to another nation or people, he is talking about the "children of the covenant" as a whole. (Matt. 21)

1King 19 Elijah replied, “I have zealously served the LORD God Almighty. But the people of Israel have broken their covenant with you, torn down your altars, and killed every one of your prophets. I am the only one left, and now they are trying to kill me, too.” “Go out and stand before me on the mountain,” the LORD told him.

God said: The people of Israel.
Not the Pharisees.
Not the Sadducees.
Not the Leaders.

Nonetheless, Jesus was specifically addressing to the Pharisees, Sadducees, priests and scribes. "Now when the chief priests and Pharisees heard His parables, they perceived that He was speaking of them." - Matt. 21:45, SAME chapter. You're taking Scripture out of context to push the heresy of replacement theology.

>>>Question: Do Muslim who die not believing in Jesus (the Messiah), saved?

Ask a muslim, I'm in no position to answer this.