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Bible Study Isaiah 57:1-2 NLT Premature death of a child

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The scripture says, "Good people pass away; the godly often die before their time. But no one seems to care or wonder why. No one seems to understand that God is protecting them from the evil to come. 2 For those who follow godly paths will rest in peace when they die."

Please your Godly wisdom and revelation on this matter.
 
... it's like when a 12 year old son passes away suddenly, seemingly (to men) for no reason at all -
Yhwh may have taken the child to spare him from suffering too much /more than he could bear/ in what would happen if he lived. similar to, as it is written elsewhere, that Yhwh will not let someone (who trusts in Him) suffer more than they can endure (perhaps to the point of renouncing their faith)
 
As to the common thinking of one taken without having come to the age of knowledge being kept by God, we read of David’s child taken, and that may have spared him the consequence Absalom experienced. David undoubtedly would have waxed worse without repentance, and not have fulfilled the prophesy “A man after mine own heart.”

I believe there is nothing overlooked when God works in our lives as the God of peace to separate us from the world as He works in us to will, and to do of His own pleasure. Job, a perfect man suffered the loss of all, but he didn’t lose them; he ended up with double all he had as he had seven new sons and daughters, and the others simply moved to a new location with God.

David’s child was also in Abraham’s bosom where David said that he could not return to him, but he would go to it in 2 Sam 12:23, and we see David listed in the worthies of fame in Hebrews chapter 11:32.

I think of the many children kileed today as the result of war and whatever, and though this is not original with me, I do believe God saves an Arab child of Muslims through death instead of them becoming a child of Satan.

My thoughts.
 
The scripture says, "Good people pass away; the godly often die before their time. But no one seems to care or wonder why. No one seems to understand that God is protecting them from the evil to come. 2 For those who follow godly paths will rest in peace when they die."

Please your Godly wisdom and revelation on this matter.
They are not dieing before their time.It is in God's perfect timing and plan.We do not know why because God's understanding is beyond our own.
 
For God, there are no unimportant events. If the Lord God tracks every sparrow (Matthew 10:29), then there is revelation revealed through some with visions and rhema word.
 
society / mankind is filled to the brink and overflowing with wickedness and evil events, just as in the days of Noah.

Yhwh causes everything, (everything), EVERYTHING, to work together for good to those who love Yhwh and keep His commandments. (a remnant)

it doesn't work out so good for those who are tossed in the lake of fire. (multitudes)
 
God spoke through a mighty man of God yesterday and it sent chills through me. He said, "I took them because they were ready! We need more time to live."
 
The case of infant's, young people, or just anyone who dies before we would think they should die is certainly a puzzle. No one has the answer to this situation apart from God Almighty. There would be the case where God foresees the future and takes the child home, out of this world. He allows the parents to cherish the child before it makes the journey to Him. There are also certain situations in this terribly sinful world that sickness, accidents and calamities happen because this world has spiraled away from God's control. The nature of evil persists in which God's legal position prevents Him to intercede.

Our only response, since there are no answers to these deaths, is to trust our Heavenly Father that nothing has escaped His knowledge. Someday our knowledge will be enlightened, until then, we must just Trust Him.
 
The case of infant's, young people, or just anyone who dies before we would think they should die is certainly a puzzle. No one has the answer to this situation apart from God Almighty. There would be the case where God foresees the future and takes the child home, out of this world. He allows the parents to cherish the child before it makes the journey to Him. There are also certain situations in this terribly sinful world that sickness, accidents and calamities happen because this world has spiraled away from God's control. The nature of evil persists in which God's legal position prevents Him to intercede.

Our only response, since there are no answers to these deaths, is to trust our Heavenly Father that nothing has escaped His knowledge. Someday our knowledge will be enlightened, until then, we must just Trust Him.
Faith and trust :yes
 
Jesus says in Matthew 5:8 NKJV, "Blessed are the pure in heart, For they shall see God.

We learn in Matthew 18:1-5 NLT, "“Who then is greatest in the kingdom of heaven? Jesus called a little child to him and put the child among them. 3 Then he said, “I tell you the truth, unless you turn from your sins and become like little children, you will never get into the Kingdom of Heaven. 4 So anyone who becomes as humble as this little child is the greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven.

We learn about the age of accountability in this text and that the pure heart in Children are needed in heaven because it brings God glory.
 
Jesus says in Matthew 5:8 NKJV, "Blessed are the pure in heart, For they shall see God.

We learn in Matthew 18:1-5 NLT, "“Who then is greatest in the kingdom of heaven? Jesus called a little child to him and put the child among them. 3 Then he said, “I tell you the truth, unless you turn from your sins and become like little children, you will never get into the Kingdom of Heaven. 4 So anyone who becomes as humble as this little child is the greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven.

We learn about the age of accountability in this text and that the pure heart in Children are needed in heaven because it brings God glory.
Hmmm...I can not see the reference to the age of accountability in this verse.
 
The scripture says, "Good people pass away; the godly often die before their time. But no one seems to care or wonder why. No one seems to understand that God is protecting them from the evil to come. 2 For those who follow godly paths will rest in peace when they die."

Please your Godly wisdom and revelation on this matter.

Blessings and all Glory be to our good, good God.

We are instructed that the Holy Spirit teaches all things. Through the Word or through the (Hopefully) Anointed men and women given as gifts to teach and pronounce the glorious gospel of Christ. We are told to read the Word here a little, there a little. Line upon line, Precept among precept (Like things must compare) (Isa 28)

This passage of scripture has been used by Pastors at funerals to explain why a dead child lay in the casket, cut off early from life for the plan of the living God. One must consider that doing such a funeral must be extremely hard, and I do my best not to judge the unlearned or ignorant.

"God must have taken this Child early, seeing the evil to come in their life. Good called them home to protect them from the evil to come."

That is akin to saying that God was just completely clueless and hopeless to be able to lead and protect the child himself. So, since God figured he did not have enough wisdom to protect, or the power. God just decided to kill the child early and get them in Heaven. Best plan God was able to come up with

yea, right..............................

I do my best not to judge my brothers and sisters............ What did the passages really say...

Lets go back.

Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people. The Lord GOD which gathereth the outcasts of Israel saith, Yet will I gather others to him, beside those that are gathered unto him. All ye beasts of the field, come to devour, yea, all ye beasts in the forest. His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber. Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter. Come ye, say they, I will fetch wine, and we will fill ourselves with strong drink; and to morrow shall be as this day, and much more abundant.
(Isa 56:7-12)

There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another? Go to now, ye that say, To day or to morrow we will go into such a city, and continue there a year, and buy and sell, and get gain: Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.
(Jas 4:12-14)

The people in Isa, have the same attitude as James is speaking about. God is bringing in people who are outcast, even his own, Israel.

God said there are Greedy dogs among them who make their own plans and are respecter of persons among the people. They look their own way (At themselves) for their own gain. It's all they care about.

Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts? Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him? But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?
(Jas 2:4-6)

they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter. (Isa)

Let's keep reading without chapter in verse in mind.

The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart: and merciful men are taken away, none considering that the righteous is taken away from the evil to come. He shall enter into peace: they shall rest in their beds, each one walking in his uprightness. But draw near hither, ye sons of the sorceress, the seed of the adulterer and the whore.
(Isa 57:1-3)

The righteous pass away and those Greedy dogs could care less that those that could give light have died. God separates his from the corrupt (Not die or kill them.... scripture did not say that) They go to enter into peace and sleep in the place God set up in their own company (bed) not anymore with the wicked.

The beds........................ God speaking to the greedy dogs here.


Upon a lofty and high mountain hast thou set thy bed: even thither wentest thou up to offer sacrifice. Behind the doors also and the posts hast thou set up thy remembrance: for thou hast discovered thyself to another than me, and art gone up; thou hast enlarged thy bed, and made thee a covenant with them; thou lovedst their bed where thou sawest it. And thou wentest to the king with ointment, and didst increase thy perfumes, and didst send thy messengers far off, and didst debase thyself even unto hell.
(Isa 57:7-9)

I will declare thy righteousness, and thy works; for they shall not profit thee.
(Isa 57:12)


The righteous are moved out from those setting up their beds in the lofty places. The beds of the righteous are in peace away from the beds of the lofty. The bed is a place a person is rooted at and operates and the righteous will not have part when God no longer holds his peace and declares his/ Their own.... righteousness against works that have no profit.

The passage of scripture has nothing to do with God killing the young early because he has no ability to protect or lead away from his own judgements against the greedy dogs.
 
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