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Islam is violent religion and Koran is not word of God.
Islam is violent religion and Koran is not word of God.
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Islam is violent religion!
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Rick W
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Somehow the claim "Islam is violent religion" offends even me. And I'm christian.
I'm sorry but not all Muslims uphold violence but only the much smaller group of fanatical extremists. The more peaceful Muslims you don't hear much about but only those who stir up trouble.
I'm sorry but not all Muslims uphold violence but only the much smaller group of fanatical extremists. The more peaceful Muslims you don't hear much about but only those who stir up trouble.
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seb
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Well, the prophet Muhammed was a sinner, so it's possible Islam is founded on a 'rocky' foundation.
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Lyric's Dad
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Show me a Prophet from the Bible that was perfect.seb said:
While I do not believe Islam, I don't believe either that all Islamists are terrorists any more then all Christians are homophobic.
Prophets are human too and prone to mistakes. Do you remember Jonah?
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Rick W
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destiny said:
There are those clerics referencing the Koran also to stop the violence. If they're not sincere then I'd have to say they don't believe their own stuff. If they are sincere and with valid reference then I'd say there are those using the Koran to further their own desires for violence through willful misinterpretation.
So, who do we believe? The clerics advocating peace or those using the Koran unlawfully?
The problem is it's very difficult to separate the two when both claim Islamic belief. The peaceful can or may be dissuaded by the violent through violence. Going the other way is the tough job. It's easy to do violence but difficult to keep the peace.
Can Muslims live in peace within other cultures? Yes. Will those who's desire it is to do so succeed? That's to be seen.
destiny
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You didn't directly answer the question, but thats ok.PotLuck said:
I was just wondering, according to (your) take on the koran, if it is indeed a peaceful religion from what you've read.
From the excerpts i've read from a literal perspective, I can understand why it's followers would be violent. It would also (according to what i've read) be hard to think of it as a peaceful religion.
Thats only my opinion and personal observation, i'm not interested in debate.
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Lyric's Dad
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There are many passages in the Bible that one could use to say that Christianity is not a religion of peace.
I wonder if witches would think we very peaceful with our Bible calling for their extermination?
I wonder if witches would think we very peaceful with our Bible calling for their extermination?
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Lyric's Dad
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Do you not agree?Judy said:
All I am saying is that if we want to, we can find something about any group to hate.
There are people calling themselves Christians who carry out many attrocious things and claim a backing by the Bible for it.
The racists believe they are Christians and even burn crosses to "light the way for Jesus to come to earth."
Slave traders thought they were Christians.
People during the witch trials thought they were Christians.
I am saying that I see no difference in that and the extremist Muslims. They take something and use it to justify horrific acts. While I disagree with the Islamic religion, there are very good Muslims who practice a religion of love and are not the fanatics that saw people's heads off and fly airplanes into buildings.
destiny
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Too bad Bush thought the "religion of peace" would do the right thing come election time, but lo and behold they voted Hamas in, who, come to find out... has been financially supporting al queda (and now they can do it with money given to them by our government)
So much for democracy...
I would say a minority of muslims are peaceful, but they would probably have to be lukewarm concerning the writings in the koran.
So much for democracy...
I would say a minority of muslims are peaceful, but they would probably have to be lukewarm concerning the writings in the koran.
Lewis
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Let me interject here, Muhammad when he was alive was a very violent man, he did a lot of killing of Hebrews and many, many others. They instructed to kill anyone who opposes them. On top of that Islam is a false religion, and they are fighting for a false god. I go by this scripture below, every single word of it.
Galatians 1:8-9 (King James Version)
8.But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9.As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Galatians 1:8-9 (King James Version)
8.But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9.As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
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Lyric's Dad
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I don't think the debate is if muhammed was violent or wrong. Of course he was. The problem is that people take passages from their Koran and make it out to be that all muslims are therefore terrorists. That is just not the case. Or they decide that because some are fanatical murderers, they must all be. Obviously this is not the case. The same kind of argument could be made against everyone that is part of any group that has ever had a bad apple in it.Lewis W said:
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Gary
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There is a huge difference: people who murder those who oppose them and call themselves Christians do NOT follow the example of Jesus.
Those who murder others who oppose the "prophet" Muhammad follow the Quran, the Hadith and Muhammad's example.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
Those who murder others who oppose the "prophet" Muhammad follow the Quran, the Hadith and Muhammad's example.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
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Gary
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seb said:
Another example of Lyric's Dad lack of understanding of what Muhammad taught.Lyric's Dad said:
Muhammad claimed:
:o :o
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Lyric's Dad
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Another example of Gary's superiority complex.Gary said:
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Gary
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Another example of Gary's superiority.....[/quote:d26e5]Lyric's Dad said:
Thanks.
:D Now care to try and rebut the argument?
P.S. Did you realise that Jesus is a sinless and perfect prophet?
:wink:
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D46
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We have Abraham and Hagar(at Sarah's request) to thank for all the turmoil going on in much of the world today. Did the scriptures not say Ishmael would be a wild man?
Genesis 16:11-12 (KJV) And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction. And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.
He will be a wild man; his posterity would be rude, unsubdued, and opposed to the restraints of city life; as the Arabs in their native country always have been.
His hand--against every man; they would be robbers and plunderers of such as should fall in their way.
Dwell in the presence; though opposed to all nations, they would never be exterminated or dispossessed; and they have continued to inhabit Arabia down to the present day.
Genesis 16:11-12 (KJV) And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction. And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.
He will be a wild man; his posterity would be rude, unsubdued, and opposed to the restraints of city life; as the Arabs in their native country always have been.
His hand--against every man; they would be robbers and plunderers of such as should fall in their way.
Dwell in the presence; though opposed to all nations, they would never be exterminated or dispossessed; and they have continued to inhabit Arabia down to the present day.