It's not long before the persecution starts

[GodsGrace]

What is the purpose of their protesting?
What outcome are they seeking to obtain?
Have you asked them this question?

I'd like to hear TC's answer to your questions.
I can't see any reason other than to vent their hatred.
And this they do while holding up placards saying that Trump instills hatred!
I find human nature very interesting - People blame others for what THEY are doing!

Wondering

 

[jasonc]

I'd like to hear TC's answer to your questions.
I can't see any reason other than to vent their hatred.
And this they do while holding up placards saying that Trump instills hatred!
I find human nature very interesting - People blame others for what THEY are doing!

Wondering

David duke for sec of hud.

No racism he says.he promises despite being at the Klan meeting this last week.

 

[Tickingclocker]

If I were Donald Trump, I would hire the best people to help me get the job done.
After all, there is a big mess to clean up and obviously, there are protesters that will try to prevent him from getting anything done.
If Donald Trump is to keep his campaign promises, he will have to do it his way, you can be sure of that.
And if Bannon comes with the success of those campaign promises, then so be it.
Go ahead, try and get the job done with a bunch of pussy cats.

And he will be responsible for "his way", won't he? Will you concede that possibility? There will be no more "acting" like a president of your own reality show. Will there? These are real people. He is now the Chief Servant-elect to the American people, not the Chief of Servants to "his way".

Correct?

He's not keeping his campaign promises. You mean, you haven't heard?? Obamacare is now staying, modified, and most certainly will have to be "re-monikered" as a kinder, gentler repub healthcare, but not being tossed out the window like he... promised. He's also dialed his trillons $$ "privately funded/border states/Mexico will pay for it" wall back to... maybe... a fence "in spots". Is he going to be one of those presidents who, previously a lifelong liberal Democrat, will turn his con-repub supporters on their heads to soundly spank them? Once he realizes that the con-repubs and Bannons of his narrowing world think they "own" him, locked up tight, stocked and barreled? "Nobody owns The Donald!" will be his reaction. And you and I both know it.

 

[GodsGrace]

TC
Trump is considering keeping two allowances in the healthcare plan currently in place, called Obamacare.
1. Children will be covered under the parents insurance till the age of 26. (I believe it's 26)
2. Insurance companies wlll have to accept persons with previous health problems.

Republicans have always agreed to the above two conditions.

Wondering

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Well. Guess what? Not everyone thinks exactly like you do.

You mean lawbreakers like.... Trump and his upcoming FRAUD case? Of course not. Huh?

I'm talking about people in the streets destroying private property, people who incite these riots, people who are in this country illegally, Muslims who believe in and practice Sharia law, and the so called Americans that hide behind the written word to support these causes.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

David duke for sec of hud.

No racism he says.he promises despite being at the Klan meeting this last week.

How do you know he was there?
Were you there?

 

[jasonc]

How do you know he was there?
Were you there?

Bannon has ties to kkk.

Off topic I lived in louisana when he was running for potus.I don't remember much .
Bannon has ties to white nationalism.i.hope it's the left bit the source I got it from isn't prone to favorites

 

[Mustard Socks]

Are you saying here that you equate interracial marriages as being as ungodly as homosexual unions before God? I would certainly hope you are using it as an example of opposition and not as a similarity.

I had certainly hoped a comparative to the contemporary opposition to homosexual unions was what was communicated in my post. Because that is how I intended it to be understood. Thanks.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Bannon has ties to kkk.

Off topic I lived in louisana when he was running for potus.I don't remember much .
Bannon has ties to white nationalism.i.hope it's the left bit the source I got it from isn't prone to favorites

How do you know so much about KKK and White Nationalism?
Are you one of them?

 

[reba]

I know much has changed in the health care world Changed a lot... modern advances are costly...
Growing up we had shots.. Mom put us to bed when we were sick ( talking child hood stuff) gave us fluids ..cooled us if we had fevers.
Kept the siblings away .. a slight busted lip was fixed with a popcycle.. skinned knee needed a hug kiss and band aid
One of my brothers is a doctor..
here is short list of some ER stuff he has had to deal with
Call out at 3 am for 3 mosquito bites Long before west nile ...
normal every day colds
small abrasions needing only a band-aid
Children who will not mind..
This is the sorta stuff that happens when stuff is 'free'

 

[Mustard Socks]

Of coarse not but that is what we were talking about in that particular conversation.

Yes, I am aware of that and we appear to be in accord.Thank you . Persecution is persecution.

 

[jasonc]

How do you know so much about KKK and White Nationalism?
Are you one of them?

How,well I read and I learn plus as an mp I got a class or hate groups.

Christian forums.net where I had to learn what exactly does the kkk say . oh did I mention there's a group of them in St lucie county ? thatS not far from me.

 

[Mustard Socks]

Thanks for posting specific cases Mustard Socks.
I fail to understand why some do not see what is happening.

Wondering

Didn't Jesus tell us why? They have ears to hear but they do not hear. Eyes to see but they do not see.

This is what makes the conflict archetype to be fleshed out from. Duality. I believe this is what makes for the righteous to find their way. And those who are in the darkness to either seek the light or remain living with the truth of God in Christ obscured from view.

 

[abide]

I haven't seen any "rioting" here. It's strictly protesting the fear of Trump's hate spreading. So how can I ask them about something I haven't seen happen? Have YOU gone out and asked them why they are protesting?

I know at least one who wants Trump to publicly denounce his hate and the haters, and to eliminate people like Bannon from influencing him further. I spent the weekend arguing with family about not seeing this coming, when they knew Bannon was a white supremacist. "Oh, he's not Trump." No, he's Trump's ears and eyes now, instead.
Kids today are not the pathetic, hateful, prejudiced people of our day. They are not going to take such behavior anymore. It's abhorrent to the majority of them, and thankfully so.

Portland anti-Trump rioters attack pregnant woman with a baseball ...

 

[daninthelionsden]

I know much has changed in the health care world Changed a lot... modern advances are costly...
Growing up we had shots.. Mom put us to bed when we were sick ( talking child hood stuff) gave us fluids ..cooled us if we had fevers.
Kept the siblings away .. a slight busted lip was fixed with a popcycle.. skinned knee needed a hug kiss and band aid
One of my brothers is a doctor..
here is short list of some ER stuff he has had to deal with
Call out at 3 am for 3 mosquito bites Long before west nile ...
normal every day colds
small abrasions needing only a band-aid
Children who will not mind..
This is the sorta stuff that happens when stuff is 'free'

There's always going to be "little people" who abuse the system. But, the abuse runs from the provider as well. My wife works for a doctor who's office is in the same immediate vicinity as a hospital. He is an extremely high volume sort a practice so he deals with a lot of medi-care/aid. He had a homeless patient who was injured. He did what he could for him but he needed to be admitted to the hospital. When the doctor's staff contacted the hospital about arranging admittance, they put up all kinds of roadblocks and hurdles but finally admitted him. The doctor's assistant went to check on him and the nurses jumped down her throat saying that they better not send someone like that over there again. The guy's personal/financial life and downfall were common knowledge amongst the staff and they made all kinds of degrading comments and judgments against the poor old man. They treated him poorly over matters that were none of their business. The abuse runs both ways......profits over care.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

There's always going to be "little people" who abuse the system. But, the abuse runs from the provider as well. My wife works for a doctor who's office is in the same immediate vicinity as a hospital. He is an extremely high volume sort a practice so he deals with a lot of medi-care/aid. He had a homeless patient who was injured. He did what he could for him but he needed to be admitted to the hospital. When the doctor's staff contacted the hospital about arranging admittance, they put up all kinds of roadblocks and hurdles but finally admitted him. The doctor's assistant went to check on him and the nurses jumped down her throat saying that they better not send someone like that over there again. The guy's personal/financial life and downfall were common knowledge amongst the staff and they made all kinds of degrading comments and judgments against the poor old man. They treated him poorly over matters that were none of their business. The abuse runs both ways......profits over care.

The ER where I worked filled up with colds and flus because the PCP's told patients they needed 2 weeks to get an appt.
Now walk-in clinics are popping up everywhere.

 

[reba]

.profits over care.

not true for everyone.. my brother has bought meds ... paid rent... not sent bills..even tires .... . lumping all of health care in one bucket is just as untrue as lumping any other one group in one bucket

 

[reba]

very young and very old may need a doctor for cold/flu but there is really very little a doc can do for colds/flu.... rest and fluids ... they are viruses antibiotics dont work on viruses

 

[daninthelionsden]

not true for everyone.. my brother has bought meds ... paid rent... not sent bills..even tires .... . lumping all of health care in one bucket is just as untrue as lumping any other one group in one bucket

OK now ...WHOOOOOOA....I'm not saying all poor people are bad or good. Neither am I saying all "for Profit" hospitals are bad are good. I'm just pointing out that abuse runs both ways everywhere.

 

[reba]

Agree... I grew up poor... maybe today on the lower side of middle... I have also known some of the riches people around in the mid 60s I would not trade my poor family life for their very rich ones. tones of money just changes ones problems ...