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James Dobson Promotes Freud?

stovebolts

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This is a very intersting article I stumbled across concerning Focus on the Family and homosexuality.

For the full article, click the link

http://www.psychoheresy-aware.org/dobson73.html

Sigmund Freud is the most prominent name in all psychotherapy. He is considered the father of the psychotherapy movement and his ideas permeate later theories and therapies.

Freud further taught that homosexuality resulted from this failure to master the Oedipus complex and he placed the fault on the parents. In his book The Psychological Society, Martin Gross describes Freud’s reasoning:

Freud and many of his modern successors saw homosexuality as the penalty for the boy child’s failure to win the Oedipal battle against a seductive, overbearing, over-affectionate motherâ€â€the classic Mrs. Portnoy. Instead of finally identifying with the hated father at the resolution of the Oedipal rivalry, the child identifies with the mother. Thereafter, the now homosexual male seeks other men as his love object. . . . In the Freudian homosexual model, the penis-adoring child also shows disgust for the penisless woman. This is coupled with his castration fear at the hands of an angry father-rival.4 (Italics in original.)

While few present-day psychoanalysts promote all of Freud’s theories, many continue to promote the Freudian theory of a dominant mother and absent father producing a homosexual son. The Comprehensive Textbook of Psychiatry describes the current, Freudian-driven view of homosexuality:

Thus, the parental constellation most likely to produce a homosexual or heterosexual with severe homosexual problems was a detached, hostile father and a close-binding, overly intimate, seductive mother who dominated and minimized her husband.5

Sir Karl Popper, who is considered to be one of the greatest philosophers of science, said that Freudian and other such theories, "though posing as sciences, had in fact more in common with primitive myths than with science; that they resembled astrology rather than astronomy."6

Freud’s theories are gross distortions of biblical anthropology and should be rejected by all Christians. And, one of the grossest distortions of God-given truth is Freud’s theory of the Oedipus complex. No true child of God can long endure such an heretical formulation. Yet, we conclude from the following evidence that Dobson does.

Last November (1998), Focus on the Family, headed by Dobson, sponsored a conference titled "Homosexuality and Youth." One of the principal speakers at the conference was Dr. Joseph Nicolosi, a Roman Catholic psychotherapist who authored Reparative Therapy of Male Homosexuality.

In Nicolosi’s book and conference tapes he reveals the Freudian roots of his theory. Nicolosi says:

Typically there is an overly close relationship between mother and son, with the father distant from both of them. . . Perhaps one significant factor is the availability of mother when the boy of 2 or 3 is experiencing problems with the father. A receptive and over-sympathetic mother might provide such a haven of emotional security that the boy would find it easy to disengage totally from such a father.7

In an interview about male homosexuality with Dobson, Nicolosi refers to "poor involvement with the father and an overinvolved mother."

The roots of Freudian Oedipal theory are reflected throughout Nicolosi’s book and conference tapes. However, this would not be surprising to Dobson since he had interviewed Nicolosi on the radio prior to inviting him to be a conference speaker. The tape of that interview is still available from Focus on the Family.

Just as the Oedipus complex is the cornerstone of Freudian psychoanalysis, so too the Oedipus complex is the cornerstone of Reparative Therapy for Male Homosexuals. And, just as lifetime treatment is characteristic of Freudian psychoanalysis, so too is this true of reparative therapy. Nicolosi says:

In his final work, "Analysis: Terminable and Interminable," Freud concluded that analysis is essentially a lifetime process. This is true in the treatment of homosexuality.8

Because Nicolosi begins with a Freudian foundation to his reparative therapy, his proposed solution depends on it. The Dobson-Nicolosi interview reveals that Dobson is very much aware of Nicolosi’s Freudian approach. As a psychologist, Dobson would know that the roots of Nicolosi’s Reparative Therapy of Male Homosexuality are Freudian. Dobson’s followers should ask him why he would promote a therapeutic approach that originated from a Freudian theory that must have come from the pit of hell. Knowing that the very Freudian ideas Nicolosi revealed in the interview would be promoted, Dobson nevertheless invited Nicolosi to be a principal speaker at the "Homosexuality and Youth" conference last fall. Nicolosi also speaks at Roman Catholic conferences on the same subject.

When people reject the biblical concept of universal sin, they are open to all sorts of aberrations, one of which is Freud’s doctrine of universal childhood fantasies of incest and homicide. Those who denied the very thought of mankind’s fallen nature, as described in Scripture, were ready to believe in a powerful unconscious, motivated by infantile sexuality. Many trusted Freudian teachings that the Oedipus complex, castration anxiety, and penis envy (for women) psychically determine the entire life of every individual.
 
Jeff,

My husband and I receive the Psychoheresy-aware newsletter and we are glad someone is speaking out about such things. It has made us more careful when listening to ministers use psychology, and it's terms, and to be careful about how that relates to the Scriptures. We even have to watch it in our own speech and beliefs now that we are more aware. The Lord bless you.
 
Lovely,
Since my Mom recieved shock treatment twice in the early 70's for a nervous breakdown and has spent most of her adult life medicated on psychotropic drugs, I've taken an interest in psychology and psychiatry. I even have a psychologist that I was mandated to see through the State of Wa that I still speak with simply because of my two daughters that reside in foster care.( http://aboutcrutcher.com ) Some know him by his movie Angus or many of his books that are placed in our public schools.

That aside, when I realized the damage that had been done to my Mother.. in essence, I was robbed of her... I got the desire to learn more about psychology and psychiatry and I was very surprised at what I learned. To date, I still frequent http://cchr.org/ just to keep up on the latest.

I stumbled across what is known as Nouthetic Counseling http://www.nouthetic.org/ which is spearheaded by Jay E. Adams and purchased two of his books and a NT translation that focus' on counseling.( http://www.timelesstexts.com/jayadams.htm )

The first book is Competent to Counsel, and the second is the Christians Counseling Manual.

Many people are completely unaware of how modern psychology has crept into our churches... and it's kind of sad.
 
StoveBolts said:
...Many people are completely unaware of how modern psychology has crept into our churches... and it's kind of sad.

StoveBolts,

I grew up in a very occultic setting. While there was a lot of alcohol and drug abuse by the adults there, as well as a lot of demonic activity and satan worship, much of what they did was psychology. Satanic mind control. A lot of it involved causing people to dissociate, and using them for all sorts of terrible things.

Now, many decades later, I see much of the same sort of witchcraft not only in the church, but in secular society. Advertising, movies, TV, have all had a hand in the field of psychology. All of it is designed for the one practicing it to control and manipulate the lives of others. It is being practiced in general medicine. Movies are promoting the use of occultic psychology, attempting to set a foundation for things that they want to build on it.

For one to desire to control or manipulate another human being, is a desire to dethrone the Almighty God in order to be as a lord over them. I have watched over the years as these people have practiced their witchcraft on one another. Each of them has gotten themselves tangled up in the chains that they have wanted to bind others with. each of them is bound up in someone elses chains. I have watched as they have tried to undo someone elses witchcraft with witchcraft. The effects are such that only God can deliver.

My prayer is for the church to be set free from it.
 
My prayer is for the church to be set free from it.

Jeff and Gabby, I am sorry about what both of you have suffered because of these teachings, and Gabby all I have to say is amen concerning the above quote. The Lord bless you both.
 
Lovely,
Thank you for your considerate post. Though I have experienced the effects of applied psychiatry in many different aspects of my life, there are many others that are unaware of just how they are currently being affected.

When we look around our society, psychiatry has its fingers in almost every faucet of our civilization, yet most people are completely unaware of the influence that psychiatry and psychology has on our culture and yes, even into our churches.

Our culture is embedded with Freudian beliefs, such as to pass accountability of ones action as another’s fault. We see this in our humanity as part of our sin nature and is clearly seen in the Yahwists (J) account of the fall of man (Gen 3).

Humanity was created for the purpose of being Man and Wife. (J) [Gen 2:25]. The account does not say, “Man and Manâ€Â, “Woman and Womanâ€Â, or even “Man and Womanâ€Â, but it is very clear as it states, “Man and Wifeâ€Â.

But our very nature, the sin portion that is, that has always sought to pass accountability to another as if t0 shun one’s own deeds as the fault of another. Let us look at what the text says. Eve said, Gen 3:13 “The serpent beguiled me, and I did eatâ€Â. And what of Adam? Gen 3:12 “The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.â€Â

Ah yes, It must be YHWH’s fault for it was YHWH who gave Adam his beloved wife… and so the cycle continues of casting blame toward others to salvage our own esteem, and our human reasoning to justify our positions.

As a throw away society, we have become accustom to get well quick medications and pop psychology that changes almost as often as the top 40. As a result, divorce is on the rise, teen suicide is on the rise, children are pushed to excel and those that don’t are labeled ADHD etc while those that rebel are medicated into sedation and homosexuality has become a disease that is treated through the same response that Adam gave YHWH.

What concerns me though is how our culture has slid into a warped belief of who we are and how we were created to the point where the ones that we respect and trust the most (Dobson and Focus on the Family) are those that somehow are able to feed us large amounts of this pop psychology based on Freudian belief’s.

Now, I know that Dobson does a great job as a psychologist as does Focus on the Family as they have helped many families and for that we must be thankful, but I often wonder why... as Christians… we would go to a secular psychologist (which is where Focus on the Family refers people to) for our deepest problems when we have Nouthetic Counseling which is based solely on biblical principals?

Have we, as Christians become so separated in our devotion to Christ that we now spend more time reading our “Self Help†books or our “Weekly Devotionals†with more of a secular than biblical view and application more than our bibles? And how did the word Psych (Soul) Ology (study of) or , the study of the soul (Psychology) end up viewing our entirety as purely an organic entity?
 
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