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Jerusalem's War with the Crusaders

golfjack

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The Roman Catholic Church, which was supposed to carry the light of the gospel, plunged the world into the Dark Ages. The Crusaders are often presented as holy men on the road from Europe to Jersualem and back pursuing a righteous cause with the blessing of the Pope. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

The Crusaders were a motely mob of thievesw, rapists, robbers, and murderers whose sins had been forgiven by the Pope's call of the crusade could consider all his financial debts to any Jewish creditor canceled, which treduced many Jewish communities to poverty. For a man looking for adventure, it was an instant way to become debt free. So, what caused the crusades?

Historians dance asround this simple question with a myriad of wordy responses that avoid and evade historical reality. The brutal truth is that the crusaders were military campaigns of the Roman Catholic Church to gain control of Jersualem from the Muslims and to punish the Jews as the alleged Christ killers on the road to and from Jersualem.


In 1095, Pope Urban 2 preached ( the call for Crusade) at Claremont, appealing to the french to recover the Holy land for Christianity. The response was immediate and positive.

The crusaders were all too conscious, however, of the great distance between Europe and Jersualem. Therefore, before attacking Muslims and the Jews of Jersualem, they moved against the Jews of Europe. Kill a Jew and save your sdoul became the battle cry of the crusaders.

When the first Crusade under Godfrey reached Jersualem in 1099, the crusaders invaded the city through the Jewish quarter. The Jews tried to escape by runnning to the Synagogue.

The Crusaders promptly set fire to the synagogue and listened to helpless women and innocent children scream in horror, begging for mercy as they were burned alive. The crusaders marched around the synagogue singing triumphantly Christ We adore Thee as 969 members of the family of our Lord weree creamated.

Jersualem was captured by the Crusaders on July 15, 1099, with most of the Jewish population, which numbered between 20 and 30 thousand, slaughtered that very day. The Jews who were not burned alive in the synogogue as the crusaders marched around it were sold into slaveryy in Italy.



May God bless, Golfjack
 
golfjack said:
The Roman Catholic Church, which was supposed to carry the light of the gospel, plunged the world into the Dark Ages.

Why do people start off long rants like this with gross historical errors? It is like a sign that says, "everything below is bologne"

The Catholic Church didn't plunge the world into the dark ages with the Crusades. This statement is completely nonsensical.

First of all, the Dark Ages began 600 years before the Crusades, in the 5th-6th Century. Ir was the result of the fall of the Roman Empire. The dark ages refer to a period of time in the western world after the empire fell. So the idea that the Catholic Church plunged the 'world' into the 'dark ages' with the Crusades, 600 years after it happened is complete nonsense.

The Crusades were nothing more than an attempt to stop the spread of Islam, which had already reached Israel. The Crusades were not ordered by Pope, but permitted military actions by mercenary groups working for various European governments.

Without the Crusades, Europe may very well have been under Muslim rule. It had nothing to do with the jews or killing them.
 
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Stray, You should check out Catholic history and what the church fathers did concerning the Jews. History tells us that there are written statements by some church fathers, including Eusebious, Cyril, Chrysostom, Augustine, Oriegen, Justin, and Jerome. Some of these published papers and historical pamphlets include what is known as Adversus Judaedos. They labeled the Jews as the Christ killers, plague carriers, demons, children of the devil, bloodthirsty pagans who look for an innocent child during the easter week to drink his blood. Need I say more.



May God bless, Golfjack
 
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golfjack said:
Stray, You should check out Catholic history and what the church fathers did concerning the Jews. History tells us that there are written statements by some church fathers, including Eusebious, Cyril, Chrysostom, Augustine, Oriegen, Justin, and Jerome. Some of these published papers and historical pamphlets include what is known as Adversus Judaedos. They labeled the Jews as the Christ killers, plague carriers, demons, children of the devil, bloodthirsty pagans who look for an innocent child during the easter week to drink his blood. Need I say more.



May God bless, Golfjack

And protestant reformers, including Martin Luther, hated jews.

You are side-tracking instead of avoiding the actual facts here. The Crusades had nothing to do with the jews, they had to do with stopping Islam. All seven 'Crusades' were Catholic nations coming together to stop the spread of Islam.

Jerusalem was conquered because it was the holy land and the Muslims kept Christians out of it. The Crusades had nothing to do with fighting jews and to even suggest that shows gross historical misunderstanding.
 
Did the crusaders kill Jews?

stray bullet said:
The Crusades had nothing to do with the Jews, they had to do with stopping Islam. All seven 'Crusades' were Catholic nations coming together to stop the spread of Islam.

Jerusalem was conquered because it was the holy land and the Muslims kept Christians out of it. The Crusades had nothing to do with fighting Jews and to even suggest that shows gross historical misunderstanding.

I have to disagree. The crusades affected and killed Jews, Eastern Christians and Muslims. Jews were slaughtered as were Greek Orthodox. Of course, Muslims were also killed.

You could even get indulgences for killing "infidels" ... but the crusaders themselves killed anyone in their path!

Read all about the "Bull of the Crusades" from your own Roman Catholic sources:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04543b.htm

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