Jesus’ Message is LIFE for Believers and Unbelievers (ALL)

[ourfamily1]

Jesus’ Message is LIFE for Believers and Unbelievers (ALL)

There is NO death message for human beings who doubt and those who err!

Isaiah 9:6. For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, the everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. 7. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.

Luke 2:10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. 14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.

John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Hebrews 2:14. Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; 15. And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

Revelation 21:6. And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

John 12:46 I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness. 47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. 48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. 49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. 50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

Isaiah 53:1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed? 2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, [there is] no beauty that we should desire him. 3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. 4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. 5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. 6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

John 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Romans 5:6. For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. 7. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die. 8. But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Romans 3:21. But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22. Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 23. For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Romans 5:17. For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) 18. Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

Romans 8:38. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, 39. Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

The DOCTRINE OF MEN has polluted the message and meaning of Jesus by inserting condemnation, death, and hellfire and brimstone for the blind, ignorant, those who err, and those human beings who do not and cannot believe.

John,
ourfamily1

 

[Guest]

Matthew 13:41-42:

"The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which did iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."

Does this help your understanding, a little bit more ... ?

Shelli.

 

[GraceBwithU]

ourfamily1,
What you seem to be promoting in this thread is universal salvation, is this true?

Salvation has been made AVAILABLE to ALL by the death of Christ for those who believe.

John 3:16
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
KJV

God so loved ALL of us that He gave His Son to pay the debt of sin for WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH.

Jn 3:36
36 He that BELIEVETH on the Son hath everlasting life : and he that BELIEVETH NOT the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
KJV

Mk 16:16
16 He that BELIEVETH and is baptized shall be SAVED ; but he that BELIEVETH NOT shall be damned.
KJV

All the scriptures you have given are 100% true. They talk about the gift of eternal life that God has offered ALL men. But none of your scripture mentions the condition for salvation.

If I understand you correctly, you feel ALL will receive salvation. If this is what you believe that is fine, but I will not take part in this thread, (other than this post)

I suggest you read the policy of this web site concerning universal salvation, (if that is what you are saying, of course, if not then explain).
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[Vic C.]

I suggest you read the policy of this web site concerning universal salvation, (if that is what you are saying, of course, if not then explain).
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I'll be looking for it also. If it is a UR message, it must stop now, as per the site's ToS. It will be allowed only in the debate forum, if one wishes to debate it and if one finds a willing person with a counterpoint.

 

[ourfamily1]

I've been accused ....

Of being many things. I have had Catholics accost me and tell me I should not be teaching what I do because I am not an "authorized" Catholic priest. I know very little about Catholicism and it seemed strange to me that a Catholic would approach me that way. He told me what I teach is what the Catholic Church is all about. I did not know at the time that the early Christan church both embraced and taught all men are saved. But it did and no one today can undo historical FACTS just because today many Christians do not accept it. He defined Catholicism for me as the "one true church that embodies all men just as all men are part of the "body of Christ" or the church. I had to look up the word, "catholic" to see if this guy was pulling my leg. Check this out:

cath·o·lic (k²th“…-l¹k, k²th“l¹k) adj. 1. Of broad or liberal scope; comprehensive. 2. Including or concerning all humankind; universal. 3. Catholic. Abbr. C. a. Of or involving the Roman Catholic Church. b. Of or relating to the universal Christian church. c. Of or relating to the
ancient undivided Christian church. d. Of or relating to those churches that have claimed to be representatives of the ancient undivided church. -- Catholic n. Abbr. C. A member of a Catholic church, especially a Roman Catholic. --ca·thol“i·cal·ly (k…-th¼l“¹k-l¶) adv.

American Heritage Dictionary

So I suppose in a way he was right, but technically and specifically he was wrong. Just because I believe we (all of mankind) are members of the "body of Christ" (Matthew 23:9, I Corinthians 12:12-25, and Hebrews 2:14-15) that does not make me Catholic. Every "church" has a part of God's truth. I may agree with some parts of TRUTH that Catholics have, but I am not a proponent of Catholic dogma. I also teach some things UR teachers believe but I also teach against the lies they believe. I teach against the lies Catholics believe. I also teach against the lies Protestant offspring of Catholicism have paraded as doctrine. So now how do you propose to define the GOOD NEWS? I will tell you what it is:

Isaiah 28:9. Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. 10. For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: 11. For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. 12. To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear. 13. But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

Anyone teaching the pure Word of God will be treated EXACTLY the way Jesus was treated. He was despised, rejected of men and eventually slain by invisible enemies in men ... because of his testimony. If this is not happening to any man who claims "God sent me", then you might question his authenticity. Resisters oppose me because I post scriptural proofs of what I contend. In fact what I contend is merely a "repetition of what is written" and I can give it VERBATIM. When Jesus was confronted by the devil on the mount of temptation both Jesus and the devil quoted scriptures. What was the difference? The Words Jesus used were rightly divided and without guile, while the devils words were full of guile and deceit. We face the same thing in posters on message boards. Check this out:

Revelation 13:11. And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

2 Corinthians 11:13. For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Ephesians 6:12. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

James 3:13. Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom. 14. But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth. 15. This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. 16. For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.

I can discern the spirits and I KNOW when devils address me through the mouths and keyboards of posters. I respond or do not respond accordingly. Thanks!

John,
ourfamily1 :wink: :P :D :