Bible Study Jesus Never "Chatted."

[Guest]

Matthew 12:36, "I [Jesus] say to you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgement."

Webster's Dictionary, "chat n. light, informal talk."

Scripture shows no instance of Jesus speaking light, informal talk. Rather, He always spoke concisely, directly, and entirely relevant to Divine imperatives.

Shelli.

 

[cyberjosh]

Well let's not get tied up in rigid dictations and be legalistic with the "no chatting" deal. You cannot prove that Jesus never spoke a few words to someone before (and we only have but a few of his words & interactions recorded John 21:25), especially like in the instance when he took the little children up in his hands and blessed them (it was probably a loving yet short benediction). He wouldn't have preached a whole sermon to them.

The idle words spoken of mean not "chatting" but rather words spoken off guard, in jest, and other manifestations of ill-spoken words. The Greek word actually means idle in the sense of lazy, and (according to Strong's Lexicon) by implication useless (thus unwholesome), "Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for edification according to the need of the moment, so that it will give grace to those who hear" (Ephesians 4:29). Also in connection with idleness can be seen useless talk, "At the same time they also learn to be idle, as they go around from house to house; and not merely idle, but also gossips and busybodies, talking about things not proper to mention" (1 Timothy 5:13).

That is what it means by "idle" talk. I understand your point about not wanting to be imprecise or to the point when sharing the Gospel but this doesn't mean we shouldn't chat to people! I say 'hi' to people and try to show momentary words of courtesy all the time out of the kindness of my heart, like when I'm in the drive-through, when openning a door for someone, when answering the phone and talking before I hand it to the person they called for (if it wasn't for me), etc. Do you see my disctinction? I think I gave the Biblical intention for 'idle' above quite well.

God Bless,

~Josh

 

[Guest]

Well let's not get tied up in rigid dictations and be legalistic with the "no chatting" deal. You cannot prove that Jesus never spoke a few words to someone before (and we only have but a few of his words & interactions recorded John 21:25), especially like in the instance when he took the little children up in his hands and blessed them (it was probably a loving yet short benediction). He wouldn't have preached a whole sermon to them.

The idle words spoken of mean not "chatting" but rather words spoken off guard, in jest, and other manifestations of ill-spoken words. The Greek word actually means idle in the sense of lazy, and (according to Strong's Lexicon) by implication useless (thus unwholesome), "Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for edification according to the need of the moment, so that it will give grace to those who hear" (Ephesians 4:29). Also in connection with idleness can be seen useless talk, "At the same time they also learn to be idle, as they go around from house to house; and not merely idle, but also gossips and busybodies, talking about things not proper to mention" (1 Timothy 5:13).

That is what it means by "idle" talk. I understand your point about not wanting to be imprecise or to the point when sharing the Gospel but this doesn't mean we shouldn't chat to people! I say 'hi' to people and try to show momentary words of courtesy all the time out of the kindness of my heart, like when I'm in the drive-through, when opening a door for someone, when answering the phone and talking before I hand it to the person they called for (if it wasn't for me), etc. Do you see my distinction? I think I gave the Biblical intention for 'idle' above quite well.

God Bless,

~Josh

Was Jesus "chatting" when He took the little children into His arms? Nope. Let's not try to use our imaginations to supposedly add speculations to the story of Jesus which Scripture does not even hint at, Okay ... ?

In fact, Jesus' gives no example of ever speaking anything "light and informal," does He? Go ahead, and try to cite some other examples, but please make sure they are accurate examples.

Jesus did in fact exemplify Ephesians 4:29 and I Timothy 5:13 even before those verses were written. Praise God! An understanding of Jesus our Saviour needs no imaginary suppositions! Scripture is completed for us to use as it is! In fact, Revelations 22:18b says, "If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book."

There is no Scripture to show that "chatting" is a part of heart felt kindness. In fact, Jesus never said "Hello," or "How do you do?", or equivalent words to anyone. In fact, He never asked anyone, "How do you feel?"

As it turns out, a lot of speech which Christian people speak to be "Godly" and "kind" is just assumed to be so by them because they are still in the image of the World, rather than in the image of Jesus. "Chatting" is just one easily seen example.

Hope I have helped you, some more. God bless.

Shelli.

 

[Vic C.]

Please do not quote with BBcode off. I turned then on so as not to confuse those reading your posts.

Thanks you in advance for understanding.

Vic

 

[Guest]

Please do not quote with BBcode off. I turned then on so as not to confuse those reading your posts.

Thanks you in advance for understanding.

Vic

Thank you in retrograde for doing something about the issue, instead of just talking aobut it. Such activity is Scriptural.

In fact, you could have just enabled the BB code for me without saying anything about it, Right ... ? That would have been the better thing to do, instead of making an issue for all others in here to see.

Are you, perhaps, highly qualified and marvelously experienced at being on committees where issues are endlessly discussed ... ? I'll bet you are, and I thank God for you.

Shelli.

 

[Vic C.]

I'm also very good at deleting rude members.

Thank you

Notice "she" said "thank you". 8-)