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Jesus tomb found and his ''bones'' are there.... :(

jgredline

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Movies are being made by the dozen.

And as far as controversial issues as to what is truth or not.... Well the Radical Muslims are now saying there was never a Temple on the mount and they are saying there was never a holocaust. And they;ve always said it was Ishmael who received the blessing and not Isaac's. :-?

But then, since I bring up the topic of radical muslims and what they are doing and saying, some people here would say I'm just being obsessed just because I provide some information about these radical type muslims and what they are up to. I think it maybe because of my providing information about the radicals being caught and then I provided a link to this movie, entitled Obsession.

So then, of course, anyone who provides controversial information will be stirring someone's pot, so begins the ruckus. In my case, being that I provided information about the radical muslims and how Jihad is their main objective. [Using a bit of that ole' tongue in cheek sarcasm here] 8-) see: http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=27733



And so then, in any case, be it of a controversial nature or not, really, some people will find a way to come up with their own garbage to counter the real truth or create some form of ruckus about it.

For instance, the muslims claim the Jews and Christians are lying about history. The Jews and Christians claim the muslims are lying about what really took place in history of Israel. So why are you surprised that this movie is in the making?

This whole world is wacko! Never in my lifetime has there been so much commotion. But then you ask a survivor of the holocaust and they will say there is nothing new, what goes around comes around. There is nothing new under the sun. History repeats itself. Just a bunch of war mongers and liars in this earth.

God, I've had enough of this garbage that's in the news. I'm tired of seeing all the wars and rumors of wars, all the lies and accusations about who is telling the truth and who is not. False reports and false teachers are abounding everywhere.

That movie won't stand a chance of being found to be of truth.

I tend to think this is no different than the commotion that went along with the DaVinci Code before and after it was made.

Creating controversy and Chaos..... makes money for those people who are in the entertainment and media fields!



I'm tired of crying out for it to all go away already. I'm tired of it all.

weary of it. I can only look to the hope of Glory soon to come and be lead in the right direction in the moment of each situation that pops into the now.
What else can we do besides sticking our heads in the sand as if nothing is going on, and then think there is nothing else to do but to pray? :-? I believe we have more than just praying to do. We have an obligation to do what ever we can to help make life here on earth a better place to live for everyone. Wars come and go, lies come and go. We must stay on track and keep fighting the GOOD fight. And so in this case we must all Stop feeding the enemy with buying tickets to such trash movies and do not support their sponsors either. Boycotts work wonders. Now as far as issues of wars and rumors of wars.... Well, that is what makes me weary and I find it difficult to know how to deal with some of those issues. Making movies about whose bones are discovered is not such a big deal.
because those who are standing firm on their own beliefs will not buy into that garbage.


The battle is a very tedious and slow one, but not an easy one, aye? We can't give up just because we are crying out in the agony of it all and sometimes are not so swift in finding the answers!

Sorry, much of the content of this post was partly due to my experience in another post today. It all melds together after a while. All this bickering about what's happening in this the news lately. I wonder am I getting too caught up in it so as to cause needless alarm? Or is it all cause to be alarmed and is it valid to be so :-? I may not have all the answers but I have a hope that whatever I am doing is of some good cause. Even if it is providing information that I can't do anything about.

But in this case. We can do something about it.... We can boycott this movie and not give our money over to the sale of it. Also, do not support the sponsors they use. Boycott their products as well. A slow but tedious task, but boycotts do work wonders. When we don't buy their garbage they think of what we really want and then change the movies they create.
Is this a movie you really want to watch? Did you spend your money on watching the DaVinci Code? where is your money going? Who are you supporting, be it blindly or not? We need to be very careful on where we put our money. It is money we should be using for Godly purposes, and we are only the stewards of it. We must spend wisely, I refuse to hand the money I get over to garbage movies and garbage products. Yeah, I know... not always easy to control where we spend our money. :-?

YOY! :-? :sad I think I need a vacation! :lol:

Oh the Irony! :oops:



Thanks for providing the information JG.



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Rejoice for God is in control and His redemption is getting closer and closer.

4 Rejoice in the Lord alway: and again I say, Rejoice. 5 Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand. 6 Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. 7 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. 8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. 9 Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you.
Philippians 4:4-9

28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. 29 And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees; 30 When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand. 31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand. 32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled. 33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. 34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. 35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. 36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. 37 And in the day time he was teaching in the temple; and at night he went out, and abode in the mount that is called the mount of Olives. 38 And all the people came early in the morning to him in the temple, for to hear him. Luke 21:28-38
 
I agree with the theory that Jesus, Mary and Joseph were common names. When I did my wife's genealogy and looked at tombstones of those with her surname back thru the generations, many of the wives had the name Maria or variation of that. Using the logic they did with names as evidence, I could have (erroneously) concluded all her Grandfathers married the same woman! :roll:

As some of you know here, I am a believer in lost tribes of Israel and where they ended up, which also involves genealogy. There are historical/archaeological evidence where they migrated. Yet, the academic world considers the tons of evidence as nonsensical or inconclusive YET they will take Jesus, Mary, and Joseph names and use only that and little else to conclude it was the Christ as if that's enough evidence. Go figure.

So it only goes to show, people will be biased and believe what they want to believe with an expert to back up any theory, AND that goes for me, too. But if the so-called experts want to believe in a tomb theory based on names, then I guess I can have my vices too. At least I have far more stories to back my stuff up.
 
The positive side of of all this (Dan Brown's Da Vinci Code and now this publicity) is the trend toward acknowledging Christ's existance in the first place. It wasn't long ago people were at odds whether Jesus actually lived or not. But now, even TV documentaries are saying things like, "When Jesus lived..." or "During Jesus's ministry..." whereas before it was things like, "During this period in time when some believe Jesus existed...".

It's a step in the right direction. The successive steps may not be on the mark but I believe Christianity has gained some ground it didn't have before.
 
I would not take this stuff seriously. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but that does not mean you have to believe them. What they found was not Jesus' tomb. Just because they believe it does not mean it is so. Just calm down and get on with your lives. :wink:
And I agree that those names were very common names, I mean just look at how many women there are named Mary in the NT, there are at least 4 or 5! There are 3 Judas's mentioned, and 2 men named Simon. Two of the apostles are named James and a third James is Jesus' brother. Names are common now,too, I know a lot other Christines other than myself. :roll: :) :-D
 
@PotLuck: I guess when you say it that way, it's good in the bigger picture. :D
 
ChristineES said:
I would not take this stuff seriously.
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It most likely is a fake. Those boxes do not have that much value. So they put some interesting inscriptions on them hoping to make more money. Actually, even as a forgery they are worth quite a bit, because they attract so much attention.
 
Scholars Criticize New Jesus Documentary

In 1996, when the BBC aired a short documentary on the same subject, archaeologists challenged the claims. Amos Kloner, the first archaeologist to examine the site, said the idea fails to hold up by archaeological standards but makes for profitable television.

"They just want to get money for it," Kloner said.
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Jesus had a lot of enemies in high places. Proving he was never resurrected would have been a very hot issue. Christianity taking root threatened the churches of idol worship, the priest's livelihood and the living of many craftsmen. Even Rome would have felt the impact as they collected revenue from idol worship throughout the empire. Christianity was a threat to a lot of people. I seriously doubt after Christ died they just threw up their hands, went home and sat on their thumbs.

Nor do I think the ensuing investigations would be carried out with human rights in mind. And I'm quite sure if anything was found to dispute His resurrection it would have been heavily publicized throughout the empire. You can bet your bottom dollar there was more motivation to discredit Jesus and His resurrection back then than there could ever be today. There was a lot of money at stake and people were turning away from idol worship.

So what makes someone think their effort is going to turn up anything more today than what had to have been ardently sought after 2000 years ago when things were still "fresh"? Like I said, Christ and Christianity threatened a lot of people in high places.

What was happening back then? Nothing?
 
What makes me giggle about all of this is they don't have any DNA to compare Jesus with anyone..They could compare the couple, but that's about it.. From what I've read, God is not even human, so there's no tracking Jesus to God!

I don't understand "what" they are trying to prove. All I have to say is good luck to them!
 
I apologize for the silly question, but why is physical resurrection so important to Christians? Do you believe that heaven, too, is a physical place? Since Jesus ascended to heaven, body and all, is heaven a place that we could potentially visit now, or locate with a telescope somewhere in outer space? That seems a little far fetched to me, personally.

I believe in life after death, but not physical resurrection. I don't think I would want to spend eternity in my physical body, anyway. Our bodies are really just water and dust, shells that we slough off when we die. There's nothing particularly special about them, is there? I believe that when we die, our physical bodies decompose, and we live on as spiritual beings, in spiritual bodies. *If* Jesus rose from the tomb and appeared to his disciples, does that make the feat any less miraculous if he resurrected spiritually, as opposed to physically? Why is the mortal coil so important to Christians?

Thanks from a slightly confused non-Christian. :)
 
.............The Lord is risen indeed................


Mar 16:5 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.
Mar 16:6 And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him.


This thread is a terrible disappointment. Not at all what one would expect from a Holy Ghost filled, Bible thumpin' Christians. In fact this is not even a good representation of a lukewarm church.

PEOPLE!!!

You have been handed a tool. From the devil himself, no less, TO PROCLAIM THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST.

You, who are known by your family, friends, neighbors, and co-workers, to be a Christian, however lukewarm you may be, however much of a Holy-roller you may be.

Col 3:1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.

As this story is being broadcast over secular TV (I have seen it in several news casts by now) it is going to have the secular people watching. You may have noticed, one of them has posted here already. The comments that you can expect about this story are going to range from "What do you have to say about your Jesus now?" to "So what, who cares?"

CHRISTIAN! TAKE UP THE SWORD OF THE SPIRIT!
You have the opportunity to speak to others about your RESURRECTED Lord. You do not need to focus on the lies of this story, But you must tell others the truth. Jesus Christ is alive. He came out of the tomb. You, if indeed you are a born again follower of Jesus Christ, told that if you deny Him before man, He will deny you before the Father.

God has taken what was meant for evil, and it can be used for good. For His glory. YOU have to use it. Work with it. Be ready to answer for the hope that is in you.

For God sake, don't worry about the story. Christian, you know that His bones are not in a grave somewhere. The world does not know that. We have to tell them. Strike while the iron is hot. Use this story and reach the world for Jesus Christ.

How could we possibly be in here discussing if the story is valid or not? We need to be out proclaiming to the world why it is not.


Mar 16:6 And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him.
 
Hi Black Cat,

Wow, you asked some loaded questions. I wish I could sit down with you face to face and go over them. I am going to post some verses that address the issues that you brought up, and perhaps you will be interested enough to continue the discussion. By the way, your questions are not silly. Pretty much everyone that is now a Christian went through the same sort of questions when they were seeking the Lord.

Black Cat said:
I apologize for the silly question, but why is physical resurrection so important to Christians? Do you believe that heaven, too, is a physical place? Since Jesus ascended to heaven, body and all, is heaven a place that we could potentially visit now, or locate with a telescope somewhere in outer space? That seems a little far fetched to me, personally.
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Here is just one passage that talks about why the resurrection is important it is important.

1Cr 15:12 ¶ Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
1Cr 15:13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
1Cr 15:14 And if Christ be not risen, then [is] our preaching vain, and your faith [is] also vain.
1Cr 15:15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
1Cr 15:16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
1Cr 15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith [is] vain; ye are yet in your sins.

Heaven is a real place. As far as 'visiting' goes, People are sometimes raised from the dead and have given their testimony about things that they saw. Some call it a 'near death experience', however, to have seen heaven and come back to tell about it would be experiencing death.

Black Cat said:
I believe in life after death, but not physical resurrection. I don't think I would want to spend eternity in my physical body, anyway. Our bodies are really just water and dust, shells that we slough off when we die. There's nothing particularly special about them, is there? I believe that when we die, our physical bodies decompose, and we live on as spiritual beings, in spiritual bodies.
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The Christian will have eternal life. In a new body. No more pain. No sickness. Nothing broken. Nothing missing.

Black Cat said:
*If* Jesus rose from the tomb and appeared to his disciples, does that make the feat any less miraculous if he resurrected spiritually, as opposed to physically? Why is the mortal coil so important to Christians?
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Probably not any less miraculous. However, truth is truth. He rose from the dead.

Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.


Black Cat said:
Thanks from a slightly confused non-Christian. :)
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Jhn 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.


Come, join us in the Kingdom.

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Black Cat,
I would love to explain this further, and answer any questions. I will be praying for you. 8-)
 
I agree with ''NEWKIDD'' pot luck...You really did sum it up in your post....

The fact is that if Jesus bones were in the tomb, Christianity would have died....Why would the apostles go through those aweful deaths is the Lord Jesus had not Risen.....No, with all the persecution going on during the first century church, Christianity could have been wiped off the face of the earth, simply by providing the body.....But as Littleangel said ...He is risen
 
Gabbylittleangel said:
Heaven is a real place. As far as 'visiting' goes, People are sometimes raised from the dead and have given their testimony about things that they saw. Some call it a 'near death experience', however, to have seen heaven and come back to tell about it would be experiencing death.
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Hi Gabby. :) Thanks for taking the time to answer some of my questions. I'm not really asking if heaven is "real." I'm just wondering whether you believe it is a physical place, composed of matter with volume and mass. I believe in an afterlife in the spiritual plane (which is what I believe people who are near death see), but the thought of an afterlife in a physical place, in your old physical body sounds more than a little strange to me. That appears to be what most Christians believe-- physical resurrection of the old body, in a physical heaven. Am I mistaken?

The Christian will have eternal life. In a new body. No more pain. No sickness. Nothing broken. Nothing missing.
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So here, are you saying that this "new body" is different than the old body?

I would love to explain this further, and answer any questions.
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I appreciate it!
 
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