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John Calvin vs Calvinism

This study is on the “L” of the acronym TULIP, which were drawn up at the Synod of Dort, between 1618-1619, by “Calvinists”, who were supposed to be followers of the teaching of the French theologian, John Calvin.

“L” is defined by the website, gotquestions.org, as:

“Limited Atonement - Because God determined that certain ones should be saved as a result of God’s unconditional election, He determined that Christ should die for the elect alone. All whom God has elected and for whom Christ died will be saved” (https://www.gotquestions.org/calvinism.html)

This is to do with the extent of the Death of Jesus Christ. Did Jesus die for the whole world without exception, as most Calvinists/Reformed teach, or, did He die only for the “elect” only?

It is very clear from the examples from the commentaries of John Calvin, that he did not believe or teach, that Jesus Christ died only for the “elect”, but, in fact, uses the phrase, “everyone without exception”, and, not as “Calvinists” believe, “everyone without distinction”.

John Calvin on John 3:16

That whosoever believeth on him may not perish. It is a remarkable commendation of faith, that it frees us from everlasting destruction. For he intended expressly to state that, though we appear to have been born to death, undoubted deliverance is offered to us by the faith of Christ; and, therefore, that we ought not to fear death, which otherwise hangs over us. And he has employed the universal term whosoever, both to invite all indiscriminately to partake of life, and to cut off every excuse from unbelievers. Such is also the import of the term World, which he formerly used; for though nothing will be found in the world that is worthy of the favor of God, yet he shows himself to be reconciled to the whole world, when he invites all men without exception to the faith of Christ, which is nothing else than an entrance into life” (emphasis mine)

Calvin on Mark 14:24, where Jesus says that His death is a “ransom for many”.

Which is shed for many. By the word many he means not a part of the world only, but the whole human race

The context of these comments by Calvin, are very important.

“And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, blessed and broke it, and gave it to them and said, "Take, eat; this is My body." 23 Then He took the cup, and when He had given thanks He gave it to them, and they all drank from it. 24 And He said to them, "This is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many.” NKJV

Here we read of Jesus Christ giving the “Lord’s Supper” in the bread and wine, which represent His Body and Blood offered on the cross for lost sinners. Jesus’ use of “shed for many”, Calvin rightly says, is NOT “a part of the world”, as in the “elect”, which is the false teaching of some “Calvinists/Reformed”; but for “the WHOLE HUMAN RACE”. No doubt here about the extent of the Death of Jesus Christ, as Calvin understood what the Bible says.

Further, we also read in the Account in Luke’s Gospel, that Judas was present for the Lord’s Supper, and actually took part in the bread and wine.

“In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you. This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood. But behold, the hand of him who betrays me is with me on the table” Luke 22:20-21

“poured out for YOU”, also includes Judas.

Some argue, that the Greek does not have the word “is”, which is in italics in Versions like the King James. However, the Greek participle παραδιδόντος, used here, “of him who betrays”, is in the present tense, which means the use of “is”, is correct.

Some honest Reformed theologians actually admit to this fact.

Matthew Henry,

"By placing this after the institution of the Lord’s supper, though in Matthew and Mark it is placed before it, it seems plain that Judas did receive the Lord’s supper, did eat of that bread and drink of that cup; for, after the solemnity was over, Christ said, Behold, the hand of him that betrayeth me is with me on the table."

John Gill

"From Luke's account it appears most clearly, that Judas was not only at the passover, but at the Lord's supper, since this was said when both were over"

Jesus Christ shed His Blood even for Judas!

Calvin on John 1:29

Who taketh away the sin of the world. He uses the word sin in the singular number, for any kind of iniquity; as if he had said, that every kind of unrighteousness which alienates men from God is taken away by Christ. And when he says, the sin Of The World, he extends this favor indiscriminately to the whole human race; that the Jews might not think that he had been sent to them alone. But hence we infer that the whole world is involved in the same condemnation; and that as all men without exception are guilty of unrighteousness before God, they need to be reconciled to him. John the Baptist, therefore, by speaking generally of the sin of the world, intended to impress upon us the conviction of our own misery, and to exhort us to seek the remedy. Now our duty is, to embrace the benefit which is offered to all, that each of us may be convinced that there is nothing to hinder him from obtaining reconciliation in Christ, provided that he comes to him by the guidance of faith.”

Note again the language that Calvin uses here. “indiscriminately to the whole human race”; “all men without exception…they need to be reconciled to him”; “offered to all, that each of us”. Nothing LIMITED in the extent of the Death of Jesus Christ here by John Calvin!

Calvin on Romans 5:18

“He makes this favor common to all, because it is propounded to all, and not because it is in reality extended to all; for though Christ suffered for the sins of the whole world, and is offered through God's benignity indiscriminately to all, yet all do not receive him”

Yet again the language used by Calvin, is clearly for a UNIVERSAL Death of Jesus Christ!

How can those who claim to be “Calvinists”, and say they follow the teaching of John Calvin, continue to believe in the UNBIBLICAL HERESY, that Jesus Christ only died for the “elect”? They honestly cannot call themselves “Calvinists”, and continue to teach that Jesus did not die for the ENTIRE HUMAN RACE, and the Inspired Word of God clearly Teaches.
 
Limited Particular Atonement is a Gospel Truth founded from scripture. Eph 5:25-26

25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

Who did Paul say that Christ particularly loved and died for in this scripture reference ?
 
Limited Particular Atonement is a Gospel Truth founded from scripture. Eph 5:25-26

25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

Who did Paul say that Christ particularly loved and died for in this scripture reference ?

The OP is very clear on John Calvin's view on the extent of the Death of Jesus Christ.

EVERYONE WITHOUT EXCEPTION
 
The OP is very clear on John Calvin's view on the extent of the Death of Jesus Christ.

EVERYONE WITHOUT EXCEPTION
Again according to the Apostle Paul in Eph 5:25-26 who did Christ Love and die for ?

25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
 
Again according to the Apostle Paul in Eph 5:25-26 who did Christ Love and die for ?

25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

We have to look at what the whole Bible says and not pick verses for your theology
 
We have to look at what the whole Bible says and not pick verses for your theology
Who does Paul say Christ loved and died for specifically here ? Eph 5:25-27

25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish
 
Who does Paul say Christ loved and died for specifically here ? Eph 5:25-27

25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish

Because it is true that Jesus gave His life for the Church, but not only so.

I have shown many times that John 3.16-18 shows that the Saving Love of God and the Death of Jesus Christ is for the entire human race
 
Because it is true that Jesus gave His life for the Church, but not only so.

I have shown many times that John 3.16-18 shows that the Saving Love of God and the Death of Jesus Christ is for the entire human race
Its specific isnt it ? Then thats who Christ Loved and died for, specifically His Church. You go beyond that, its speculation, not scripture. Also Acts 20:28

28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
 
I have a FIFTH passage from John Calvin

"In whom we have redemption. He now proceeds to set forth in order, that all parts of our salvation are contained in Christ, and that he alone ought to shine forth, and to be seen conspicuous above all creatures, inasmuch as he is the beginning and end of all things. In the first place, he says that we have redemption and immediately explains it as meaning the remission of sins; for these two things agree together by apposition For, unquestionably, when God remits our transgressions, he exempts us from condemnation to eternal death. This is our liberty, this our glorying in the face of death — that our sins are not imputed to us. He says that this redemption was procured through the blood of Christ, for by the sacrifice of his death all the sins of the world have been expiated. Let us, therefore, bear in mind, that this is the sole price of reconciliation, and that all the trifling of Papists as to satisfactions is blasphemy

"Expiated", is another word for ATONEMENT

Another very clear passage showing that Calvin without any doubt, believed and taught that Jesus Christ died for EVERY SINGLE SINNER FROM ADAM, WITHOUT ANY EXCEPTIONS!
 
***CORRECTION***

I have worded a sentence in the OP incorrectly

"Did Jesus die for the whole world without exception, as most Calvinists/Reformed teach, or, did He die only for the “elect” only?"

Should say, "as most Calvinists/Reformed do not teach"

thanks
 
Because it is true that Jesus gave His life for the Church, but not only so.

I have shown many times that John 3.16-18 shows that the Saving Love of God and the Death of Jesus Christ is for the entire human race

Whom did Jesus die for?
NSWE


Exactly whom Jesus died for is a point of theological disagreement among evangelical Bible believers. Some Christians believe that Jesus died only for the elect; this is the doctrine of limited atonement, the L in Calvinism’s TULIP. Other Christians believe that Jesus died for everyone who has or ever will live; this is the doctrine of unlimited atonement, held by Arminians and most four-point Calvinists, or Amyraldians.

Limited atonement, sometimes called particular redemption, is based on the doctrine of election or predestination (Romans 8:30, 33; Titus 1:1). Since only the elect of God will be saved, the reasoning goes, Jesus must have died only for them. Otherwise, Jesus’ death “failed” those who are not elect. If Jesus died for everyone, then hell will be full of people for whom Jesus died—was His atonement insufficient? If Jesus died only for the elect, then His atonement perfectly accomplished its goal. Every person for whom Jesus died will be in heaven.

Unlimited atonement, on the other hand, says that Jesus died for everyone but that only those who respond in faith will reap the benefits of His sacrifice. In other words, Jesus’ death was sufficient for all, but only effectual for some (those who have faith). If Jesus did not die for everyone, the reasoning goes, then the offer of salvation is empty, because the non-elect cannot be saved. The teaching of unlimited atonement is based on verses such as 1 John 2:2, “He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.”

Precise theological thinking is a good thing. We are called to be students of the Word (2 Timothy 2:15). But on this point, it seems that most people follow a theological system to get to their answer, rather than the clear Word of God. If it were not for theological systems (namely, Calvinism and Arminianism), the question of whom Jesus died for would probably never come up—but it has come up! One side says that, if Christ did not die for all, then there can be no genuine offer of salvation. The other side says that, if Christ died for some who will never be saved, then His death in some sense fails to accomplish its purpose. Either way, there seems to be an attack upon God’s character or Christ’s work—either God’s love is limited or Jesus’ power is limited. This presents an unnecessary dilemma and creates a tension where none need exist. We know that God’s love is infinite (Psalm 107:1) and that Christ’s power is infinite (Colossians 1:16–17). The dilemma is a false one of our own making.

In short, the offer of salvation is universal—to all who will believe (Romans 10:11, 13). We also know that, regardless of how broad Christ’s atonement is, it is limited in some respect—it is effective only for those who believe (John 3:18).

John 10 provides more insight into the issue of whom Jesus died for. In that passage we see that Christ died for His sheep (John 10:11, 15). Also, all who are His sheep will come to Him (verses 4 and 27), and they are kept secure in Christ (verses 28–30). However, when we share the gospel, we don’t try to “pre-screen” the hearers of the message. We don’t delve into who are the elect or for whom Jesus may or may not have died. Those discussions would distract from the goal of evangelism. When presenting the gospel, we simply say, “Jesus died for your sin, and He rose again from the dead. His death is sufficient to pay for your sins if you will put your faith in Him.” This is a biblically accurate statement, and it avoids trying to get too specific. The preaching of the apostles in the New Testament doesn’t try to cut it more finely than that.

Gotquestions.com
 
John 10 provides more insight into the issue of whom Jesus died for. In that passage we see that Christ died for His sheep (John 10:11, 15). Also, all who are His sheep will come to Him (verses 4 and 27), and they are kept secure in Christ (verses 28–30)

Based on your reasoning, only Jews, the lost sheep of the house of Israel will be saved.


Jesus taught us about His sheep who become lost.


What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one which is lost until he finds it? And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and neighbors, saying to them, Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!’ I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance. Luke 15:4-7


Do you understand that His sheep can indeed wander away from Him and become lost?

  • Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!’ I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance.

Here we see that if one of His sheep become lost they must repent and return to Him, to be reconciled again to Him.

Also, notice that His sheep who become lost are called sinners who need repentance.

Finally, we see that Jesus said that if one of His sheep become lost, they are no longer justified, having returned to being a sinner.


James says it this way —

Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins.
James 5:19-20


I encourage you to meditate on these things.





JLB
 
Whom did Jesus die for?
NSWE


Exactly whom Jesus died for is a point of theological disagreement among evangelical Bible believers. Some Christians believe that Jesus died only for the elect; this is the doctrine of limited atonement, the L in Calvinism’s TULIP. Other Christians believe that Jesus died for everyone who has or ever will live; this is the doctrine of unlimited atonement, held by Arminians and most four-point Calvinists, or Amyraldians.

Limited atonement, sometimes called particular redemption, is based on the doctrine of election or predestination (Romans 8:30, 33; Titus 1:1). Since only the elect of God will be saved, the reasoning goes, Jesus must have died only for them. Otherwise, Jesus’ death “failed” those who are not elect. If Jesus died for everyone, then hell will be full of people for whom Jesus died—was His atonement insufficient? If Jesus died only for the elect, then His atonement perfectly accomplished its goal. Every person for whom Jesus died will be in heaven.

Unlimited atonement, on the other hand, says that Jesus died for everyone but that only those who respond in faith will reap the benefits of His sacrifice. In other words, Jesus’ death was sufficient for all, but only effectual for some (those who have faith). If Jesus did not die for everyone, the reasoning goes, then the offer of salvation is empty, because the non-elect cannot be saved. The teaching of unlimited atonement is based on verses such as 1 John 2:2, “He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.”

Precise theological thinking is a good thing. We are called to be students of the Word (2 Timothy 2:15). But on this point, it seems that most people follow a theological system to get to their answer, rather than the clear Word of God. If it were not for theological systems (namely, Calvinism and Arminianism), the question of whom Jesus died for would probably never come up—but it has come up! One side says that, if Christ did not die for all, then there can be no genuine offer of salvation. The other side says that, if Christ died for some who will never be saved, then His death in some sense fails to accomplish its purpose. Either way, there seems to be an attack upon God’s character or Christ’s work—either God’s love is limited or Jesus’ power is limited. This presents an unnecessary dilemma and creates a tension where none need exist. We know that God’s love is infinite (Psalm 107:1) and that Christ’s power is infinite (Colossians 1:16–17). The dilemma is a false one of our own making.

In short, the offer of salvation is universal—to all who will believe (Romans 10:11, 13). We also know that, regardless of how broad Christ’s atonement is, it is limited in some respect—it is effective only for those who believe (John 3:18).

John 10 provides more insight into the issue of whom Jesus died for. In that passage we see that Christ died for His sheep (John 10:11, 15). Also, all who are His sheep will come to Him (verses 4 and 27), and they are kept secure in Christ (verses 28–30). However, when we share the gospel, we don’t try to “pre-screen” the hearers of the message. We don’t delve into who are the elect or for whom Jesus may or may not have died. Those discussions would distract from the goal of evangelism. When presenting the gospel, we simply say, “Jesus died for your sin, and He rose again from the dead. His death is sufficient to pay for your sins if you will put your faith in Him.” This is a biblically accurate statement, and it avoids trying to get too specific. The preaching of the apostles in the New Testament doesn’t try to cut it more finely than that.

Gotquestions.com

just more HUMAN SPECULATION!

Calvin is 100% right on this!
 
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