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Kevin Sorbo raises a good question.

i think if they don't have a conscience (for whatever reason for from whatever cause),
then they simply wouldn't care at all - they'd just be like apathetic 'christ..ns'.

but if their conscience still has any vim or vigor in it, even if they are ignoring it or searing it by resisting it,
they they will / may react when the truth gets too close for comfort (i think Jesus said someplace to His disciples, but can't remember exactly where,
"be glad when they get mad, because that means the truth is too close for comfort"
i.e. to me that means the truth is able or starting to get through to them, and they might turn to the truth by sheer grace of Yhwh .

otherwise, not so nice, is that 'everyone' not in Christ Jesus is in the enemy and under his control. (2 kingdoms here, Light and Dark - everyone is in one and subject to the one they are in).
so the ones under the enemies control will/may totally hate and despise and loath all of the true believers in Christ Jesus, 'for no reason' even (they may not even know why , as they are under the control of darkness/sin/the enemy of Christ Jesus).
.... et al .... ... ...
 
Knotical said:
Recently in an interview he gave with The Blaze, Kevin Sorbo asked the question: "Why do atheists get so offended by something they don't believe in?"

On one level the answer seems obvious, but on another it is kind of eyebrow raising.

Here is the article: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...hollywood-actor-says-is-weird-about-atheists/
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I think the answer to Kevin's question is because God has made himself known to us even if we refuse to see it.

Romans 1
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.

 
Didn't watch the entire interview (but maybe will do later). Only answering the question he asked.

Atheists don't get offended by something "they don't believe in". It would obviously make no sense to be offended by God if you don't think He exists. It's not God who they are offended about, but the behaviour of some of us Christians, or by some beliefs many of us hold, especially if they (the Atheists) feel like they are imposed on them or on some other outsider/ innocent/ unconsenting person.
So (under the premise of not having heard the statement incontext and thus might be wrong about it) I would think that unfortunately Mr Sorbo is asking the wrong question. It's great that he would adress Atheism, and may God bless his endeavour to do so! but if he wants to help Atheists he better understant what Atheists believe.
 
Btw that movie Sorbo was in sucked.
Okay it wasn't as bad as Left Behind, but still bad.
Why isn't there a single GOOD Christian movie out there?! Not even one?!
 
WIP said:
I think the answer to Kevin's question is because God has made himself known to us even if we refuse to see it.

Romans 1
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.
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I agree WIP.I think they know deep down inside that their is a God.They are just being rebellious and refusing to recognize Him.Satan is helping that process.
 
Claudya said:
Btw that movie Sorbo was in sucked.
Okay it wasn't as bad as Left Behind, but still bad.
Why isn't there a single GOOD Christian movie out there?! Not even one?!
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Many Christian movies do suffer from either being poorly written, poorly acted, or both. It is just the nature of things. There just aren't that many good actors, or screen writers making Christian movies.
 
Knotical said:
Many Christian movies do suffer from either being poorly written, poorly acted, or both. It is just the nature of things. There just aren't that many good actors, or screen writers making Christian movies.
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Yeah it's a shame, actually. It'd be awesome if some Christian movie could be engaging enough to make a broad audience of different religious backgrounds debate about Christian topics. That would bring God to many people's minds. But poorly written and acted movies aren't engaging. Admittedly that movie with Kevin Sorbo in it had some decent acting, so Mr Sorbo isn't guilty of it being a bad movie. But all chracters were such horrible blantant oversimplified black-and-white stereotypes, and unrealistical ones, too. No real philosophy professor, no matter how atheistic, would behave like that in real life. Because real philosophers know to accept different types of thinking. Thus the entire premise of the story just doesn't work.
We aren't doing ourselves a favour if we fail to understand what "the other side" is all about.
 
Claudya said:
Yeah it's a shame, actually. It'd be awesome if some Christian movie could be engaging enough to make a broad audience of different religious backgrounds debate about Christian topics. That would bring God to many people's minds. But poorly written and acted movies aren't engaging. Admittedly that movie with Kevin Sorbo in it had some decent acting, so Mr Sorbo isn't guilty of it being a bad movie. But all chracters were such horrible blantant oversimplified black-and-white stereotypes, and unrealistical ones, too. No real philosophy professor, no matter how atheistic, would behave like that in real life. Because real philosophers know to accept different types of thinking. Thus the entire premise of the story just doesn't work.
We aren't doing ourselves a favour if we fail to understand what "the other side" is all about.
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And yet there are reports of students suing their universities/colleges over the treatment they received at the hands of their professors. The fact is, this kind of thing does happen. Possibly not exactly the way it was portrayed in the movie, but many Christian students are persecuted by their professors because of their faith.
 
Knotical said:
And yet there are reports of students suing their universities/colleges over the treatment they received at the hands of their professors. The fact is, this kind of thing does happen. Possibly not exactly the way it was portrayed in the movie, but many Christian students are persecuted by their professors because of their faith.
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We'd have to examine each of those stories to learn the truth. It's possible that in some of the cases the Christian student is the narrow minded idiot, in others it's the prof... or both.
From my experience with philosophy classes the professors would rather encourage debate and not just simply have the students write down a three word conclusion.
 
Claudya said:
We'd have to examine each of those stories to learn the truth. It's possible that in some of the cases the Christian student is the narrow minded idiot, in others it's the prof... or both.
From my experience with philosophy classes the professors would rather encourage debate and not just simply have the students write down a three word conclusion.
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locally we have philosophy class whose professor makes them debate on the merits of pot legalization. what does that have to do with that? why not a world view? the final paper is on the pot issue.
 
claudya has a point. we do use stereotypes. for that reason I seldom mention im a libertarian in some areas and also that im for allowing the schools to be neutral as far as our faith. some would think im a liberal and atheist. which im not!
 
jasonc said:
locally we have philosophy class whose professor makes them debate on the merits of pot legalization. what does that have to do with that? why not a world view? the final paper is on the pot issue.
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It's a good topic. There are various aspects to consider about pot legalisation, so it's very rich for thinkers. It's not an easy "yes" or "no" thing. Also, it's something young college people tend to care about. :lol
 
Claudya said:
It's a good topic. There are various aspects to consider about pot legalisation, so it's very rich for thinkers. It's not an easy "yes" or "no" thing. Also, it's something young college people tend to care about. :lol
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I was aged 28, when I went to college and finished at 32, and I wasn't the oldest. . since its the final and that is the grade that matters. the paper if I remember was what made it or failed you. that is a coworkers story about his daughter.

he was also pro pot. I have had a female professor that taught sociology. she said it. didn't require a paper. makes me wonder if those two were high at times teaching.
 
"Why do atheists get so offended by something they don't believe in?"
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The Cross and what it stands for is offensive because it shows our innate depravity and our need for forgiveness and redemption. People don't like to think they're accountable to Someone else ( Yahweh ).
 
Whoa I just found out they remade Left Behind.
It has Nicolas Cage in it. Not sure if that's good or bad.

 
left behind? Lord looking back I thought that movie was ok theologically. now? not. I also notice they portray Christians stereotypically.
 
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