Mahatma Gandhi versus Jerry Falwell.....

[Soma-Sight]

“The idea that religion and politics don't mix was invented by the Devil to keep Christians from running their own countryâ€Â

Jerry Falwell quotes

“The best way to find yourself is to lose yourself in the service of others.â€Â

Mahatma Gandhi quotes

“If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human beingâ€Â

Jerry Falwell quotes

“Be the change you want to see in the world.â€Â

Mahatma Gandhi quotes


“Christians, like slaves and soldiers, ask no questionsâ€Â

Jerry Falwell quotes


“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.â€Â

Mahatma Gandhi

“AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexualsâ€Â

Jerry Falwell quotes

“A coward is incapable of exhibiting love; it is the prerogative of the brave.â€Â

Mahatma Gandhi quotes

“It appears that America's anti-Biblical feminist movement is at last dying, thank God, and is possibly being replaced by a Christ-centered men's movement which may become the foundation for a desperately needed national spiritual awakeningâ€Â

Jerry Falwell quotes

God has no religion."

Mahatma Gandhi quotes

“I do not believe we can blame genetics for adultery, homosexuality, dishonesty and other character flawsâ€Â

Jerry Falwell quotes[/colr]

“Action expresses priorities.â€Â

Mahatma Gandhi quotes



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[Gary]

You know them by their fruits... their children

MOHANDAS KARAMCHAND GANDHI

(1869-1948), Indian political leader

His Fruits: "You want my sons to be holy men before they are men!" Gandhi's wife once exclaimed. It was true. "A blot which I have never been able to efface," wrote Gandhi, was his own absence when his father breathed his last. At that moment, Mohandas was in bed with Kasturbai, his pregnant child-wife; he never forgave himself. He abandoned sexual relations at age 37 and evidently saw his four sons as living reminders of his own sexual "curse." All of them, according to one account, "tried to live up to their father's expectations of them, but each, in his own way, failed, and in Gandhi's attitude toward their failure there was, by his own testimony, an element of guilt for sexual excesses in his childhood marriage."

His sons resented their upbringing as disciples. They were not, for example, allowed the formal education which Mohandas himself had received and which would have provided them with their own choice of livelihood.

Harilal Gandhi (1888-1948) rebelled most strongly. He renounced all family ties in 1911 and embarked upon a tragic, lifelong path of self-destruction. He became a Muslim convert, an alcoholic, an embezzler; accounts of his arrests, public drunkenness, and destitution became commonplace. "I was a slave of my passions when Harilal was conceived," said Mohandas. Harilal appeared at his father's funeral in such derelict condition that few recognized him. He died in a tuberculosis sanitarium two months later.

Manilal Gandhi (1892-1956) was in disgrace in 1916 after he lent his elder brother some money. Mohandas sent him to South Africa, where he edited an Indian newspaper. Later he spent a brief period in India, bitterly astonished at the Mahatma's genial, old-age mellowness.

Ramdas Gandhi (1898-1969) had no taste for asceticism, yet participated in the grueling civil protests of the 1930s. Numerous jailings wrecked his health. Born and raised in South Africa, he never adjusted to the idealistic poverty imposed by his father.

Mohandas acted as midwife at the delivery of his youngest son, Devadas Gandhi (1900-1957).

Alone of all the sons, Devadas stayed near his father, sometimes being granted the privilege of serving as his secretary.

In 1976 Gandhi's direct descendants numbered 47 in five nations. According to Ved Mehta, author of Mahatma Gandhi and His Apostles, they "do everything from selling life insurance to working in space engineering; one is a Moral Re-Armament evangelist." Deposed Indian prime minister Indira Gandhi is no relation.

http://www.trivia-library.com/b/famous- ... ildren.htm

:o

 

[Gary]

Gandhi the racist

Gandhi's racist statements against Africans; based on an incident in Bombay in 1896. On addressing a public meeting in Bombay on September 26, 1896 (cf. Collected Works Volume II, page 74) following his return from South Africa, Gandhi said:

Ours is one continued struggle against degradation sought to be inflicted upon us by the European, who desire to degrade us to the level of the raw kaffir, whose occupation is hunting and whose sole ambition is to collect a certain number of cattle to buy a wife with, and then pass his life in indolence and nakedness.

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Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahatma_Gandhi#Criticism

How ironic! Gandhi walked around half naked and slept with naked young girls (not his wife) in his bed! Hardly the model husband.

As for being a kaffir; he obviously was one according to the Muslims. kaffir = non-believer in Muhammad's idea of God (Allah) as described in the Quran.

:wink:

 

[Gary]

Gandhi or Mandela

This is one of those "indolence" (lazy) Africans that Gandhi slurred.

Gandhi or Nelson Mandela? Viva Mandela!!!!

http://www.anc.org.za/people/mandela.html

:smt038

 

[Soma-Sight]

Ours is one continued struggle against degradation sought to be inflicted upon us by the European, who desire to degrade us to the level of the raw kaffir, whose occupation is hunting and whose sole ambition is to collect a certain number of cattle to buy a wife with, and then pass his life in indolence and nakedness.

I think Gandhi here is merely comparing the degredation to slavery mentality or "kaffir", not necessarily a "racial" proponent.

Of course what prominent Christian leader passes up the opportunity to bash the primitive Arabs!!!

Gandhi spent most of his life fasting and getting beat..... I have been beat less and make bigger mistakes than that! lol..... :

As far as his derilect sons.... well all families have black sheep! Just look at my uncles! My grandpa was a good man and some of his sons turned out that way...

It was not Gandhi's fault!

I will agree that the sleeping with young girls story is not good and I will check into that myself...... That is really the only issue I have with the guy....

Other than that he is an inspiration to me.

 

[KnarfKS]

Ghandi is an inspiration for someone, even a Christian to look toward in some ways. So is falwell, maybe in looking to him in what not to do, and learning from his idiotic mistakes, but there is still something to learn. :-D

Falwell has inspired many...Christians all around the world are inspired to put their face in their hands and become angry.

 

[Soma-Sight]

Ghandi is an inspiration for someone, even a Christian to look toward in some ways. So is falwell, maybe in looking to him in what not to do, and learning from his idiotic mistakes, but there is still something to learn.

Falwell has inspired many...Christians all around the world are inspired to put their face in their hands and become angry.

lol.....

If you have not seen the Hollywood movie done in the 90's of Gandhi I highly recommend it.

It is very good and has a history lesson in it as well.

 

[Solo]

Ghandi is an inspiration for someone, even a Christian to look toward in some ways. So is falwell, maybe in looking to him in what not to do, and learning from his idiotic mistakes, but there is still something to learn.

Falwell has inspired many...Christians all around the world are inspired to put their face in their hands and become angry.

lol.....

If you have not seen the Hollywood movie done in the 90's of Gandhi I highly recommend it.

It is very good and has a history lesson in it as well.

Poor Ghandi. He was such a swell fella, and he still rejected Jesus Christ. He never knew Jesus as anything other than a teacher. Maybe he believed before the last breath left him on his deathbed so that he isn't being tortured for the rest of eternity.

 

[Soma-Sight]

Poor Ghandi. He was such a swell fella, and he still rejected Jesus Christ. He never knew Jesus as anything other than a teacher. Maybe he believed before the last breath left him on his deathbed so that he isn't being tortured for the rest of eternity.

Dude....

Thats sinister man.

 

[Solo]

Poor Ghandi. He was such a swell fella, and he still rejected Jesus Christ. He never knew Jesus as anything other than a teacher. Maybe he believed before the last breath left him on his deathbed so that he isn't being tortured for the rest of eternity.

Dude....

Thats sinister man.

I agree that it is sinister. Anyone that rejects Jesus Christ and leads others to the lake of fire with them should be given an even stiffer punishment, no matter how phony their walk was here on earth.

 

[starbyfar]

Of course what prominent Christian leader passes up the opportunity to bash the primitive Arabs!!!

Well said!

Its sucks that Ghandi wasn't a Christian. With all the power and charisma he held over the people in India think of how many he could've brought to Christ. Itd be great to see him as well as many other amazing freedom fighters that inspire me in heaven! It hurts to think of how blind to the truths found in Christ he was. One can only hope that God is more merciful to those that don't know his son, then his Word says he is, because there are a lot of wonderful people that brought about beautiful change, but didn't adhere to the message.

 

[Heidi]

“The idea that religion and politics don't mix was invented by the Devil to keep Christians from running their own countryâ€Â

Jerry Falwell quotes

“The best way to find yourself is to lose yourself in the service of others.â€Â

Mahatma Gandhi quotes

“If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human beingâ€Â

Jerry Falwell quotes

“Be the change you want to see in the world.â€Â

Mahatma Gandhi quotes


“Christians, like slaves and soldiers, ask no questionsâ€Â

Jerry Falwell quotes


“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.â€Â

Mahatma Gandhi

“AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexualsâ€Â

Jerry Falwell quotes

“A coward is incapable of exhibiting love; it is the prerogative of the brave.â€Â

Mahatma Gandhi quotes

“It appears that America's anti-Biblical feminist movement is at last dying, thank God, and is possibly being replaced by a Christ-centered men's movement which may become the foundation for a desperately needed national spiritual awakeningâ€Â

Jerry Falwell quotes

God has no religion."

Mahatma Gandhi quotes

“I do not believe we can blame genetics for adultery, homosexuality, dishonesty and other character flawsâ€Â

Jerry Falwell quotes

“Action expresses priorities.â€Â

Mahatma Gandhi quotes

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It doesn't appear that Ghandi was capable of loving his enemies if he didn't love Christians. Loving only those who agree with you is the easiest thing to do in the world. As Jesus says, "even sinners do that."

Ghandi gave credit to himself, not to God, for his "wonderful insights." That's the sin of pride at its peak. And as Jesus said, "A good tree cannot bear bad fruit and neither can a bad tree bear good fruit." People speak to gain honor for themselves. But there is nothing false about one who speaks to honor God instead of himself. Jerry Falwell has the honesty & humility to admit he sins. Ghandi did not.

 

[bhakthi]

Gandhi Quote

Mahatma Gandhi once stated,
"If Krishna had 16008 wives I don't have no respect for that kind of god."
Another time he said.
"Iswar and Allah are your names'
To Gandhi Ram and Allah were the same god.
Neither the Muslims nor the Hindus approves this.

Jesus said, "I am the light of the world. Anyone who follows Me will never walk in the darkness, but will have the light of life."John; 8:12