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Michael Jackson ROCKS!

What verdict will the jury give Michael Jackson?


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Darck Marck said:
Exactly what I thought would happen.

Yep.
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Don't take it so personally gang. There are some who believe that Jesus is 'even at the door'. If so, then time is getting short. How about coming down to earth, behaving like Christians, and concentrating instead on winning souls to Christ??
 
peace4all said:
this is a sad day for america.

Sputnik: Oh, for crying out loud! Get a grip on yourselves, folks! Is the forum giving out awards for 'over-reacting'?
 
I am sure he and a couple four year olds are celebrating tonight.
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peace4all said:
this is a sad day for america.

No, but this does appear to be a sad day for Christians. Its amazing to me how willing people (and especially Christians) are to judge another without all the facts. And trust me we don't have all the facts because that wouldn't sell papers or air time.

Jackson must be guilty because he has money. He got away with it because he has money.

Its also possible Jackson was falsely accused because he has money.

Lets look at past cases where Jackson settled out of court. What were the parents of the child seeking? Justice for their child or money. If anyone rich or otherwise abused my child I would want them locked up and the key thrown away (not a very Christian attitude but I'm far from perfect) and I would not accept a penny from that individual.

According to what I heard the jury put aside the fact that Jackson was a celebrity (and rich) and tried the best they could to judge him on the facts of the case.

Disclaimer: I am not a fan of Jackson. I used to like his music 20 or so years ago but don't listen to his music anymore. I don't follow his every move and check out every piece of trash journalism about him. I didn't follow this case at all except for a possible 10-20 minutes total I may have caught by changing channels.

Bottom line the jury found him innocent based on the facts and they had nothing to gain by doing so other than doing the job they were asked to do.

For those of you who have judged him and found him guilty I would like to ask one question.
What facts are you basing your decision on (be specific)?
 
Any grown man that intentionally sleeps in beds with little kids, is basically a pedophile, Not to mention that both brothers, a security guard, and a ton of others said they saw things happen.


Can you trust a man who makes his childrean wear sheets on their head?

Can you trust someoen that doesnt know what race they are?

can you trust someone that tries to drop his kid off a building?


We all know he is as guilty as OJ simpson
 
Bottom line the jury found him innocent based on the facts and they had nothing to gain by doing so other than doing the job they were asked to do.
OJ was found not guilty also! :o

For those of you who have judged him and found him guilty I would like to ask one question.
What facts are you basing your decision on (be specific)?

I like the way you "judge" us for having an opinion of the guilt or innocence of Jackson. :roll:

I believe the man to be guilty by his own admission, when in a interview he a 40+ year old man said he likes to sleep with little boys and he sees nothing wrong with it. :o Not to mention that the maids son that testified that he was molested by Michael for a few years, and he didn't even know that his mom had taken a settlement from Jackson until he was 18, his mom had put the money in a trust fund for her son. He is now a youth pastor. I believe that the juror based their ruling on the fact that they didn't like the boys mom.
I do believe this just shows that famous people can not only get away with murder but they can also get away with molesting kids too.

OJ, Blake, and Michael may have gotten away with a crime here but if they are guilty, one day they will stand before the ultimate judge and will have to give an answer to him. :wink:
 
Homeskillet said:
peace4all said:
this is a sad day for america.

Sept 11, 2001 was a sad day for america...not today.

Yes, Sept 11 was a sad time in americas history... but, I also believe that all the little boys that have been molested by Michael would also think that yesterday was a sad day also....Try to put yourself in the shoes of the little boys or since you are a parent, try to wear the shoes of the parents of those little boys and I think you will see that it is a sad day indeed. :wink:
 
Judy said:
Homeskillet said:
peace4all said:
this is a sad day for america.

Sept 11, 2001 was a sad day for america...not today.

Yes, Sept 11 was a sad time in americas history... but, I also believe that all the little boys that have been molested by Michael would also think that yesterday was a sad day also....Try to put yourself in the shoes of the little boys or since you are a parent, try to wear the shoes of the parents of those little boys and I think you will see that it is a sad day indeed. :wink:

Ditto. September 11th was horrible, but I consider child abuse/molestation just as horrible.....if not worse.

But like you said. He WILL stand before the ultimate judge one day and a judge that knows the TRUTH!!!!
 
This was not at all surprising. The prosecution had no case. Even if the jury wanted to put Jackson away, they were given nothing to work with.

While I do think he's really weird, and I absolutely agree that the way he likes little boys is utterly inappropriate, I'm not convinced that necessarily means that he has done anything illegal in that regard.

I was kind of hoping that he'd at least get nicked on the alcohol to a minor charge. The judge could order him to not have contact with any minors, if nothing else that would protect him from himself.

If he really is innocent, he really has no choice but to sue his accusers. He's an easy target, and he needs to send a message to others that they better have actual proof before they try anything like this.
 
Bryan said:
This was not at all surprising. The prosecution had no case. Even if the jury wanted to put Jackson away, they were given nothing to work with.

Have you seen any of the interviews with the jurors? A few of them said they think he IS guilty, but they had to go by the information they were given and none of it showed for sure that he had done anything, so they had nothing to go on. But they said that they honestly think he did it.
 
I knew this would happen. Must have cost Miss Jackson quite a lot of money.

Ah, well, as the old saying goes,

Money talks,
( ) walks.
 
Nikki said:
Bryan said:
This was not at all surprising. The prosecution had no case. Even if the jury wanted to put Jackson away, they were given nothing to work with.

Have you seen any of the interviews with the jurors? A few of them said they think he IS guilty, but they had to go by the information they were given and none of it showed for sure that he had done anything, so they had nothing to go on. But they said that they honestly think he did it.

Well our justice system works that way for a reason.

Could you imagine what would happen if jurors were allowed to place a verdict based soley on what they 'thought' or 'believed' to be true? :o THANK GOD they have to go by the evidence...which, in this case there just wasn't enough of.

peace4all said:
Any grown man that intentionally sleeps in beds with little kids, is basically a pedophile
Not to be nit picky here, but you've just insinuated that my children's father is a pedophile. I agree with you that there is something wrong with grown men sleeping in a bed with a child that is not his own-but please be careful with how you word things like this. Not all men who have slept in the same bed as a child is a pedophile.

Judy--I have put myself in their shoes...and believe me I think there was a huge disservice done in this trial...but to compare it to something like September 11 and say that it's a sad day for America is a bit much---dramatic if you will.

Do you know how many children are molested each year?

Do you know how many accused molesters and pedophiles are found not guilty?

More than I would like that's for sure...

So, what makes today -and MJ's case any different than the others that are let go every day? The fact that he's famous? Or the fact that he looks like a freak? Know what I mean?

Take for instance...Natalie Halloway...what makes her case so "important" compared to all the other people who go missing all the time? And Laci Peterson? Elizabeth Smart? Why does the media grab on to some cases and not all?

Sure it's sad that Natalie is missing.
It's very tragic what happened to Laci and Conner.
And it was heartbreaking to see what Elizabeth Smart went through, but thank God she was found alive.

I just think it's a bit much to say how "sad" of a day it is when things like this happen ...knowing it happens so much more often than the few highly publicized cases... :sad

I feel for Joe Schmoe down the road whose daughter has been missing, yet no one is even looking for her. :sad

If yesterday was a sad day for America....then so is everyday.

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Judy--I have put myself in their shoes...and believe me I think there was a huge disservice done in this trial...but to compare it to something like September 11 and say that it's a sad day for America is a bit much---dramatic if you will.

Do you know how many children are molested each year?

Do you know how many accused molesters and pedophiles are found not guilty?

More than I would like that's for sure...

So, what makes today -and MJ's case any different than the others that are let go every day? The fact that he's famous? Or the fact that he looks like a freak? Know what I mean?

First, Who compared it to 911?? you are the one that compared it to 911. :-? peace4all, just said that it was a sad day in america... It is sad anytime a criminal get away with his crime.

Secondly, the topic is about Michael Jackson... so our opinions are on the verdicts not 911 or anything else. Some of us were just voicing our disappointment in the verdict.
Sure all those other things you have brought up are just as sad... Let me ask you what makes 911 any different then the Oklahoma booming?? Is it because more people died there? Whether it is a few hundred, a few thousand, or just one it is still sad when innocent people die or when a kid is molested like in the Jackson case. One thing that makes the Oklahoma booming stand out to me is kids were killed in the day care center there. :crying:

The differents with the MJ's case is because he is world famous! And NOT because he looks like a freak! I would say that those are your words, not mine!! I don't think that the DA filed a case against Michael because he looks like a freak. :o

I still say it is a sad day that another famous criminal got away with his crime! But, one day he will stand before God and there will be no denying all the evidents then....
 
I think some of the above posts are good examples as to why the American Justice System isn't beating a path to 123 Christian Forums for advice. It's the best you have gang. And, despite its flaws, you can thank God that evidence or lack of is still the basis for justice and NOT merely opinions! This is a good conversation piece but getting hung up on it is of no benefit to anyone. I believe Michael is as guilty as sin but my opinion is of no value. Nor should it be. And, for the record, those who so sanctimoniously claim that Mr. Jackson will one day have to stand before God should also bear in mind that ...so will they! Pray for Michael and for every other sinner because THEY are the ones that Jesus came to save. Hey, guess what ...that's you and me! Oh my.
 
Is it against the law now for people on a forum to discuss their opinion on a topic? And when I said that Michael will stand before God and give account for what he has done, I was quoting the bible...Romans 14:10-12

If Michael is guilty he may have gotten away with it here but he will still have to face the ultimate Judge....

Thank you for your opinion. :wink:
 
Judy said:
Is it against the law now for people on a forum to discuss their opinion on a topic?

Sputnik: I acknowledged that it's a good conversation piece.

Judy: And when I said that Michael will stand before God and give account for what he has done, I was quoting the bible...Romans 14:10-12

Sputnik: And so was I in regard to its reference to other than Michael Jackson.

Judy: If Michael is guilty he may have gotten away with it here but he will still have to face the ultimate Judge....

Sputnik: We've all been guilty of 'something' and many of us have gotten away with it here on earth. Michael doesn't have the monopoly on 'guilt'. That's assuming, of course, that he's guilty of this particular charge in the first place. According to the jury, he's innocent.

Judy: Thank you for your opinion. :wink:

Sputnik: You're welcome. :infinity:
 
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