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Mike Murdock's False Gospel

rwbovee

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Watching Christian television lately, I noticed three networks were running telethons at the same time. Dr. Mike Murdock was preaching at all three. At one time I noticed he was even somehow preaching at the exact same time on all three of the networks - the Trinity, Daystar, and Inspiration networks. But why does Mike Murdock always seem to be talking about money? If you ever noticed, he seems to rarely, if ever, talk about Jesus. Jesus Christ told us to go and preach the gospel to the whole world, and the gospel is Jesus Christ not money. "For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows." 1 Timothy 6:10.

Well then somebody will pipe up that it says the love of money is evil and not money. But it seems to me that if some of these preachers are talking about money continually that they have a love of money. I notice the word in the King James Bible "lucre" also means "money." On at least four occasions the Apostle Paul called it "filthy lucre." It would be like saying "filthy money" today. So he seemed to think not only the love of money but money itself was filthy and evil. "Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth." Colossians 3:2. I don't think there's any money in heaven, so we shouldn't be setting our affection on it.

Some might say that there were a few rich Christians found in the New Testament, notably Gaius, Zacchaeus, and Cornelius. One thing to be noted about all three of these gentlemen however is that they were all very generous in giving to the poor, and, in fact, that quality is required of those who are rich in this world. See 1 Timothy 6:17-19. "Charge them that are rich in this world" that they be "ready to distribute, willing to communicate." "That they be not highminded." That means that they are not to think that they're any better than the poor just because they happen to have some money, and they must be ready and willing and to part with that money to the poor when they're asked for it.

So is that the way Benny Hinn, Mike Murdock, Joyce Meyer, Creflo Dollar, T. D. Jakes, Billy Graham, Paula White, Joel Osteen, Kenneth Copeland, Robert Schuller, Pat Robertson and other modern Christian "leaders" are today? I don't think so. Most of these and other rich Christians today seem to think that they're better than the poor and rarely if ever help the poor and needy. Rod Parsley and James Robeson have changed their tune on this in recent years, but I don't think these modern rich Christians who are not willing to freely help the poor and needy when asked are really saved, and if they don't repent will end up in hell. See this link for a report on the lavish lifestyles of many modern ministers: http://www.inplainsite.org/html/tele-ev ... tyles.html
 
rwbovee said:
Watching Christian television lately, I noticed three networks were running telethons at the same time. Dr. Mike Murdock was preaching at all three. At one time I noticed he was even somehow preaching at the exact same time on all three of the networks - the Trinity, Daystar, and Inspiration networks. But why does Mike Murdock always seem to be talking about money? If you ever noticed, he seems to rarely, if ever, talk about Jesus. Jesus Christ told us to go and preach the gospel to the whole world, and the gospel is Jesus Christ not money. "For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows." 1 Timothy 6:10.

Well then somebody will pipe up that it says the love of money is evil and not money. But it seems to me that if some of these preachers are talking about money continually that they have a love of money. I notice the word in the King James Bible "lucre" also means "money." On at least four occasions the Apostle Paul called it "filthy lucre." It would be like saying "filthy money" today. So he seemed to think not only the love of money but money itself was filthy and evil. "Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth." Colossians 3:2. I don't think there's any money in heaven, so we shouldn't be setting our affection on it.

Some might say that there were a few rich Christians found in the New Testament, notably Gaius, Zacchaeus, and Cornelius. One thing to be noted about all three of these gentlemen however is that they were all very generous in giving to the poor, and, in fact, that quality is required of those who are rich in this world. See 1 Timothy 6:17-19. "Charge them that are rich in this world" that they be "ready to distribute, willing to communicate." "That they be not highminded." That means that they are not to think that they're any better than the poor just because they happen to have some money, and they must be ready and willing and to part with that money to the poor when they're asked for it.

So is that the way Benny Hinn, Mike Murdock, Joyce Meyer, Creflo Dollar, T. D. Jakes, Billy Graham, Paula White, Joel Osteen, Kenneth Copeland, Robert Schuller, Pat Robertson and other modern Christian "leaders" are today? I don't think so. Most of these and other rich Christians today seem to think that they're better than the poor and rarely if ever help the poor and needy. Rod Parsley and James Robeson have changed their tune on this in recent years, but I don't think these modern rich Christians who are not willing to freely help the poor and needy when asked are really saved, and if they don't repent will end up in hell. See this link for a report on the lavish lifestyles of many modern ministers: http://www.inplainsite.org/html/tele-ev ... tyles.html


Hi three

I think I see the point you are trying to make here. However, the point should be made that these ministers you mention are what they are - TV ministers ! Some are a part of a local orgainized based church. But they all still fail to see the big picture -- all of them !

Maybe this sounds very critical of me to make such a claim. But they would not be asking for your money if they fully understood the true purpose of ministry.

The Word tells us to be good to all, but especially unto the household of faith. Giving starts right inside of the household of faith. Most if not all of these ministers believe that giving starts right there in their own pockets. And that their TV ministry is the way in which to reach the world with the Word of truth. All false ! We as individuals are the ambassador's for Christ, not a TV ministry.

I am also curious as to why you left out K . C . Price ? But no matter, he is a self proclaimed apostle. Yeah right - NOT !

How many of these ministers teach - give to get ? I think you will find your answer in this.
 
rwbovee said:
Watching Christian television lately, I noticed three networks were running telethons at the same time. Dr. Mike Murdock was preaching at all three. At one time I noticed he was even somehow preaching at the exact same time on all three of the networks - the Trinity, Daystar, and Inspiration networks. But why does Mike Murdock always seem to be talking about money? If you ever noticed, he seems to rarely, if ever, talk about Jesus. Jesus Christ told us to go and preach the gospel to the whole world, and the gospel is Jesus Christ not money. "For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows." 1 Timothy 6:10.

Well then somebody will pipe up that it says the love of money is evil and not money. But it seems to me that if some of these preachers are talking about money continually that they have a love of money. I notice the word in the King James Bible "lucre" also means "money." On at least four occasions the Apostle Paul called it "filthy lucre." It would be like saying "filthy money" today. So he seemed to think not only the love of money but money itself was filthy and evil. "Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth." Colossians 3:2. I don't think there's any money in heaven, so we shouldn't be setting our affection on it.

Some might say that there were a few rich Christians found in the New Testament, notably Gaius, Zacchaeus, and Cornelius. One thing to be noted about all three of these gentlemen however is that they were all very generous in giving to the poor, and, in fact, that quality is required of those who are rich in this world. See 1 Timothy 6:17-19. "Charge them that are rich in this world" that they be "ready to distribute, willing to communicate." "That they be not highminded." That means that they are not to think that they're any better than the poor just because they happen to have some money, and they must be ready and willing and to part with that money to the poor when they're asked for it.

So is that the way Benny Hinn, Mike Murdock, Joyce Meyer, Creflo Dollar, T. D. Jakes, Billy Graham, Paula White, Joel Osteen, Kenneth Copeland, Robert Schuller, Pat Robertson and other modern Christian "leaders" are today? I don't think so. Most of these and other rich Christians today seem to think that they're better than the poor and rarely if ever help the poor and needy. Rod Parsley and James Robeson have changed their tune on this in recent years, but I don't think these modern rich Christians who are not willing to freely help the poor and needy when asked are really saved, and if they don't repent will end up in hell. See this link for a report on the lavish lifestyles of many modern ministers: http://www.inplainsite.org/html/tele-ev ... tyles.html

Good site, how about Arnold Murray too?
 
hisvessel1 said:
rwbovee said:
Watching Christian television lately, I noticed three networks were running telethons at the same time. Dr. Mike Murdock was preaching at all three. At one time I noticed he was even somehow preaching at the exact same time on all three of the networks - the Trinity, Daystar, and Inspiration networks. But why does Mike Murdock always seem to be talking about money? If you ever noticed, he seems to rarely, if ever, talk about Jesus. Jesus Christ told us to go and preach the gospel to the whole world, and the gospel is Jesus Christ not money. "For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows." 1 Timothy 6:10.

Well then somebody will pipe up that it says the love of money is evil and not money. But it seems to me that if some of these preachers are talking about money continually that they have a love of money. I notice the word in the King James Bible "lucre" also means "money." On at least four occasions the Apostle Paul called it "filthy lucre." It would be like saying "filthy money" today. So he seemed to think not only the love of money but money itself was filthy and evil. "Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth." Colossians 3:2. I don't think there's any money in heaven, so we shouldn't be setting our affection on it.

Some might say that there were a few rich Christians found in the New Testament, notably Gaius, Zacchaeus, and Cornelius. One thing to be noted about all three of these gentlemen however is that they were all very generous in giving to the poor, and, in fact, that quality is required of those who are rich in this world. See 1 Timothy 6:17-19. "Charge them that are rich in this world" that they be "ready to distribute, willing to communicate." "That they be not highminded." That means that they are not to think that they're any better than the poor just because they happen to have some money, and they must be ready and willing and to part with that money to the poor when they're asked for it.

So is that the way Benny Hinn, Mike Murdock, Joyce Meyer, Creflo Dollar, T. D. Jakes, Billy Graham, Paula White, Joel Osteen, Kenneth Copeland, Robert Schuller, Pat Robertson and other modern Christian "leaders" are today? I don't think so. Most of these and other rich Christians today seem to think that they're better than the poor and rarely if ever help the poor and needy. Rod Parsley and James Robeson have changed their tune on this in recent years, but I don't think these modern rich Christians who are not willing to freely help the poor and needy when asked are really saved, and if they don't repent will end up in hell. See this link for a report on the lavish lifestyles of many modern ministers: http://www.inplainsite.org/html/tele-ev ... tyles.html

Good site, how about Arnold Murray too?

Hi there

Don't get me started on Arnold Murray. :D
 
rwbovee said:
Watching Christian television lately, I noticed three networks were running telethons at the same time. Dr. Mike Murdock was preaching at all three. At one time I noticed he was even somehow preaching at the exact same time on all three of the networks - the Trinity, Daystar, and Inspiration networks. But why does Mike Murdock always seem to be talking about money? If you ever noticed, he seems to rarely, if ever, talk about Jesus. Jesus Christ told us to go and preach the gospel to the whole world, and the gospel is Jesus Christ not money. "For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows." 1 Timothy 6:10.

Well then somebody will pipe up that it says the love of money is evil and not money. But it seems to me that if some of these preachers are talking about money continually that they have a love of money. I notice the word in the King James Bible "lucre" also means "money." On at least four occasions the Apostle Paul called it "filthy lucre." It would be like saying "filthy money" today. So he seemed to think not only the love of money but money itself was filthy and evil. "Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth." Colossians 3:2. I don't think there's any money in heaven, so we shouldn't be setting our affection on it.

Some might say that there were a few rich Christians found in the New Testament, notably Gaius, Zacchaeus, and Cornelius. One thing to be noted about all three of these gentlemen however is that they were all very generous in giving to the poor, and, in fact, that quality is required of those who are rich in this world. See 1 Timothy 6:17-19. "Charge them that are rich in this world" that they be "ready to distribute, willing to communicate." "That they be not highminded." That means that they are not to think that they're any better than the poor just because they happen to have some money, and they must be ready and willing and to part with that money to the poor when they're asked for it.

So is that the way Benny Hinn, Mike Murdock, Joyce Meyer, Creflo Dollar, T. D. Jakes, Billy Graham, Paula White, Joel Osteen, Kenneth Copeland, Robert Schuller, Pat Robertson and other modern Christian "leaders" are today? I don't think so. Most of these and other rich Christians today seem to think that they're better than the poor and rarely if ever help the poor and needy. Rod Parsley and James Robeson have changed their tune on this in recent years, but I don't think these modern rich Christians who are not willing to freely help the poor and needy when asked are really saved, and if they don't repent will end up in hell. See this link for a report on the lavish lifestyles of many modern ministers: http://www.inplainsite.org/html/tele-ev ... tyles.html


How truly sad that this is the state of Christianity for many of our brothers and sisters who profess the Lord Jesus Christ as their savior.
 
To the shame of many church pastors, inviting Mike Murdock and others like him to come spend a few days preaching tends to show those preachers up as woefully lacking in ability to deliver an interesting gospel message. I would not want to follow in leading a sermon after any of those listed above. I've heard most in person, and all, including Mike, preach a very powerful gospel of Christ message every time. They always seem to have some new and exciting perspective, but always tightly "Bible". In the churches they are subdued concerning money talk, but on their TV shows they do make their heaviest pitches. In the churches they do have their tables in the foyer, to be expected, like any gospel singer group with CDs for sale to keep them going. Those TV shows are aimed at Christians and the need for huge donations to finance TV programs around the world. I've seen many of those world-wide TV shows, none of them mentioning money at all. They preach Jesus, asking American Christians to pay for that. When they go overseas, they rely on us Americans to fork up the expenses.

Mike preaches Jesus in a wonderful way in real services, but like some here I don't want to listen to his constant appeals on TV. We just send in some support via email. I don't want his singing, and already completely understand why it is such a curse to be so poor I can't put a $100 bill in a collection plate, or remain behind in tithes a whole year. I watch people, often being an usher. The "poor" so often stink of cigarettes, pot, dogs and drive the newest Ford pickup, reluctant to let a dollar bill leave their hand. They are the ones putting in a $5 bill and poking around for $4 change. That is absurd in America. Keep your dollar.

Jesus preached a lot of sermons about money. Having lots of it is no sin. Having the wrong attitudes because of too much money, or none of it for that matter, is a sin. For every rich man sinning over love of money you can find at least one very poor man guilty of love of money. My advice is go back and re-read those before claiming some TV evangelist is sinning for love of money. Jesus had a finance officer named Judas. He sold Jesus out for money, but that doesn't mean all people holding money are evil. Take Pat Robertson for example. Ever heard of Operation Blessing? If you were part of Hurricane Katrina, they likely touched your life. They were already in Haiti before the earthquake, working out the disasters of recent hurricanes there. Probably all the named evangelists have a huge benevolence program around the world.
 
WordSwordsman said:
To the shame of many church pastors, inviting Mike Murdock and others like him to come spend a few days preaching tends to show those preachers up as woefully lacking in ability to deliver an interesting gospel message. I would not want to follow in leading a sermon after any of those listed above. I've heard most in person, and all, including Mike, preach a very powerful gospel of Christ message every time. They always seem to have some new and exciting perspective, but always tightly "Bible". In the churches they are subdued concerning money talk, but on their TV shows they do make their heaviest pitches. In the churches they do have their tables in the foyer, to be expected, like any gospel singer group with CDs for sale to keep them going. Those TV shows are aimed at Christians and the need for huge donations to finance TV programs around the world. I've seen many of those world-wide TV shows, none of them mentioning money at all. They preach Jesus, asking American Christians to pay for that. When they go overseas, they rely on us Americans to fork up the expenses.

Mike preaches Jesus in a wonderful way in real services, but like some here I don't want to listen to his constant appeals on TV. We just send in some support via email. I don't want his singing, and already completely understand why it is such a curse to be so poor I can't put a $100 bill in a collection plate, or remain behind in tithes a whole year. I watch people, often being an usher. The "poor" so often stink of cigarettes, pot, dogs and drive the newest Ford pickup, reluctant to let a dollar bill leave their hand. They are the ones putting in a $5 bill and poking around for $4 change. That is absurd in America. Keep your dollar.

Jesus preached a lot of sermons about money. Having lots of it is no sin. Having the wrong attitudes because of too much money, or none of it for that matter, is a sin. For every rich man sinning over love of money you can find at least one very poor man guilty of love of money. My advice is go back and re-read those before claiming some TV evangelist is sinning for love of money. Jesus had a finance officer named Judas. He sold Jesus out for money, but that doesn't mean all people holding money are evil. Take Pat Robertson for example. Ever heard of Operation Blessing? If you were part of Hurricane Katrina, they likely touched your life. They were already in Haiti before the earthquake, working out the disasters of recent hurricanes there. Probably all the named evangelists have a huge benevolence program around the world.

Hi

This all sounds good, but the bottom line, is that their way of giving is not according to the Word of God !

Their way is their own pockets first. Then they give a little to make a good impression.

The Word states that we are to give, and lay down our giving unto the men of God. But what is giving for ? It is not "for" the things they stand for !

The Word tells us that we are to be good to all, but especially unto the household of faith. A man of God is worthy of his labor. But my gosh, millions of dollars ? Just face the facts, they are running a buisness and they are the reapers of their own labors. EVerything else is just for show !

Sad !
 
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Lee, I just don't get it. I would get it if it said Freedom of Speech was killed by irresponsible television.

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I killed my set four years ago Vic, it was taking center stage sending the wrong kind of messages when guests would come over. Its amazing how modern technology has replaced social gatherings, plus it doubles as a baby sitter, captivating the minds of the young and old alike, an enigma a freak of everything that's natural. It says and does what it pleases, it hands out misinformation, unlike free speech its a one way street, it never gives us the chance to talk back. :twocents
 
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LOL, I fully understand. Thanks Lee. :salute

I didn't "kill" by set, but extremely limited the channels I get by subscribing to basically over the air broadcasting, with a few channels like the Weather Channel and a couple of others thrown in. Total to me: $13.52 for A+ reception. Fiber optic too. :yes
 
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