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Well you said be truthful, so this is my opinion. I really believe god intended to protect the mosque.
 
From time to time I have heard prophetic words go out. God will warn a people to put an end to some sin, or judgment will come. It is as if He is saying to them that if they choose to keep the sin, they can.

I believe that this is also why the French Quarter ( the site of Mardi Gras) stands today.

My honest opinion.
 
Newkid00 said:
Well you said be truthful, so this is my opinion. I really believe god intended to protect the mosque.
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Anyone know what the surrounding buildings were built of? Is there a "before" pic?
 
I don't think there is. I was thinking about this a few minutes ago. The mosque could of been built with better material and with better workers. Does anyone know the architecture of a mosque? It might be that, don't know.
 
Looks like stone structures survived. Wonder what this other building is? It too survived. Roof and all. So do we see 2 miracles in this pic?

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Something strange here though. Does warrant questioning I think.

Here, we see the second building and a pillar of some kind. Also the trees have all their leaves. Fully.
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Here we see what looks like a pic during or just after the event. The second building is still there. And the "pillar" is gone.
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In this pic the second building is not included due to the angle of the shot (intentional?), the trees have no leaves.
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We may have a before pic after all, when all the leaves were on the trees... the first pic. In which case there wasn't anything around the mosque anyway.

OR

These were taken at different seasons, in which case the second building obviously survived also as seen in the first pic.
 
I cant seem to find any pictures before hand, but i remember seeing it on the news but they didnt show much coverage. Anyway there definately must of been buildings and houses around this mosque. You can see they white stuff on the floor. Are you really telling me that there was no houses around this building? Anyway in England a study was done on muslim's and they it said that they live near to the mosques. For example you wouldnt see them living near the coast or some place where there isnt a mosque. Yeh that pillar you talk about is part of the Mosque. Anyway ive got another i want to show. Check my next post out.
 
I think they are all fake pictures... and it wouldn't be the first time they have use such tricks.
 
deep_thinking said:
I cant seem to find any pictures before hand, but i remember seeing it on the news but they didnt show much coverage. Anyway there definately must of been buildings and houses around this mosque. You can see they white stuff on the floor. Are you really telling me that there was no houses around this building? Anyway in England a study was done on muslim's and they it said that they live near to the mosques. For example you wouldnt see them living near the coast or some place where there isnt a mosque. Yeh that pillar you talk about is part of the Mosque. Anyway ive got another i want to show. Check my next post out.
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If the surrounding buildings were of wood upon concrete block foundations I serious doubt they would have survived. But stone, brick or block don't wash away so easily. The strength of concrete block and stone is in it's weight.
I put in to "pad" in our basement that measures approx. 3ft x 3ft x 6 inches thick. By the amount of bags of concrete mix I used it weighs 720 pounds. That's 1/3 of a ton. And it's nowhere near the volume of a building made of the stuff.

Yet, that other building is still there too. Looks like masonary to me also. It's still there. And the roof looks ok. Usually where you find a roof you'll also find a building under it.
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PotLuck you're awesome and thanks for the pics. So I guess people mettled with it with a computer. Technology is an amazing thing, isn't it? :robot:
 
If you look at the structure, the mosque, it's masonry. And there are a lot of openings, not a solid wall, where water can flow through relieving the pressure of the weight of moving water. Those pillars would also serve to break up the flow of water anyway. The structure's design is of some common religious architecture that is found with many such buildings. I don't think it matters what is there anyhow, could have just as well been Notre Dame, the Sistine Chapel or the Catholic chathedral down the street. Each would definately have survived due to their inherent design, stone with many angles and openings.

That other smaller building though doesn't have much in the way of openings, except windows and a door I'm sure and it still stands. These two are masonry, the mosque and the "Holy Shed" as I call it. The others we don't know of because we have no "before" pic. We see the foundations though, again most likely masonry.
 
Newkid00 said:
PotLuck you're awesome and thanks for the pics. So I guess people mettled with it with a computer. Technology is an amazing thing, isn't it? :robot:
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I don't think it's fake or photoshopped. I think it's real alright but presented as a miracle when in fact it's just an exercise in physics and hydraulics.
 
Hey Potluck,

If you go back to that web site, then go to the Home page, follow some of the other links that they offer. It is all about Muslim miracles. They see the name Allah written in all over the place. ( Clouds, rocks, the palm of the hand, etc).
 
I really don't want to go through that entire webpage debating each and every one of those.

For me feeding the multitudes (creation) twice, raising the dead, healing the the blind, the lame and the dumb, calming the seas, walking on water (By faith Peter also took a few steps where no other man has tread), being delivered from the grave... just to mention only a few of the miracles wrought by Christ is more than enough for me to believe who Christ was, believe who He said He was and believe His saving work done on the cross.

Even though the prophets themselves worked wonders and signs none have wrought the miracles of mercy and grace as our Lord and Saviour had done for through His Son, Jesus Christ, was God's power, grace, mercy and salvation brought to those who believe.

He died, was buried and rose again so we who are not worthy to be in the presence of the Father can and will one day share in His Knigdom. God came to us through Christ because we are not worthy to go to the Father. Through His Son Jesus are we made blameless, to stand before Him in judgment washed of our sins through the blood of the Lamb of God.

And that is the greatest miracle of all.
 
Answer the questions below. Be truthfull.

I am assuming that you all beleive in one God.

How many pictures do you see when talking about Father (the Source, the Eternal Majesty); the Son (the eternal Logos or Word, incarnate as Jesus of Nazareth); and the Holy Spirit (the Paraclete or advocate). Do you see 1 or 3?

Now ask yourself how many Gods are you presently believing in?
How many Gods are there really?
 
deep_thinking said:
Answer the questions below.
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no

Do you know how many trinity threads come through here? Do you know how many I participate in? Do I want to go through all that again and again?
Not really.

Do you believe Jesus is the Son of God? Do you believe the New Testament as witness to who Jesus is, the Messiah?

I'm not going to get into a shooting match between (you) Islam and (me) christianity since it'll go nowhere anyway and this is a christian forum to begin with.



So, tell me. Why are you here in the first place? Check your motives and if it's to refute christianity in leu of Islam then you may want to reconsider your position. If it's to argue for Islam then that's the motive, to argue.

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There's a fine line between debating and promoting. This is not a secular forum where anything goes as long as things don't get ugly. We're not here to provide an unbiased battleground, being impartial referees for the ensuing debates. This is a christian forum and christian ideals will be upheld. I can't be any plainer than that.
 
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