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more church abuse going on :-(

What's new. There are many imposters in the Church posing as Jesus servants. Snakes enter the church because they know people in the Church who do good things for others are supposed to be trusted so they think they can get away with there crimes more easy.
 
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The Catholic Church has had a hard time with imposters, but that's just the way it rolls, the bigger something gets the more corrupt it becomes, and the Catholic Church is a huge institute with possibly a billion people even today and has been going for centuries.
 
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Hang on a minute let's look at the facts because after what iv seen with the George Pell case i look at such allegations very closely with a degree of skepticism.

Most important fact is that these are allegations that have been made since he died last year. Allegations of sexual abuse from 1970 to 2005. There is only the testimony of the alleged victims, without any evidence. It's not enough to find him guilty

Why have they only come out now after he died?
Now that the man cannot defend himself? Up to 50 years after the allegations?

Whenever such a long time elapses before allegations are made that is a red flag. You have the best chance of winning a case if it is filed ASAP. There is no logical reason for not reporting it back then. There is no logical reason for waiting this long until he died to make these claims.

Another interesting fact is that the investigation was not done by police or any other agency, instead it was conducted by his own charity organisation. Not only is this very strange but they aren't qualified to run such an investigation and their findings are worthless in a court of law.

At this point u may be asking then why have these women made such allegations. And that's a fair question.

Western society today has a large secular population, many of which are in high power positions and well funded lobby groups. But some of them are secular extremists with the objective of destroying Christianity. Hence that huge wave of sexual abuses in churches.

Im not saying they're all false allegations, surely some of them were true. But I took a closer look at high profile cases against about 6 priests and what I found was disturbing. Unfair trials of old allegations, little to no evidence, convictions based on uncorroborated testimony alone.

This is not how criminal cases are conducted but it seems to be the norm now in sexual assault cases, the accuser only needs to give a testimony and nothing more.

So what is the motivation for this. I don't think it's personal. I think it's an attack on our churches. There are many secular lobby groups and they have big money. The money is used to run campaigns like gay marriage, abortion and the rest. They only have to find people that are willing to take a payment to make these accusations against Christianity.

Some of u may think this is all rubbish. Ok but at the end of the day these are only allegations , they will never be anything more than allegations. You cannot convict a man after he is dead
 
Hang on a minute let's look at the facts because after what iv seen with the George Pell case i look at such allegations very closely with a degree of skepticism.

Most important fact is that these are allegations that have been made since he died last year. Allegations of sexual abuse from 1970 to 2005. There is only the testimony of the alleged victims, without any evidence. It's not enough to find him guilty

Why have they only come out now after he died?
Now that the man cannot defend himself? Up to 50 years after the allegations?

Whenever such a long time elapses before allegations are made that is a red flag. You have the best chance of winning a case if it is filed ASAP. There is no logical reason for not reporting it back then. There is no logical reason for waiting this long until he died to make these claims.

Another interesting fact is that the investigation was not done by police or any other agency, instead it was conducted by his own charity organisation. Not only is this very strange but they aren't qualified to run such an investigation and their findings are worthless in a court of law.

At this point u may be asking then why have these women made such allegations. And that's a fair question.

Western society today has a large secular population, many of which are in high power positions and well funded lobby groups. But some of them are secular extremists with the objective of destroying Christianity. Hence that huge wave of sexual abuses in churches.

Im not saying they're all false allegations, surely some of them were true. But I took a closer look at high profile cases against about 6 priests and what I found was disturbing. Unfair trials of old allegations, little to no evidence, convictions based on uncorroborated testimony alone.

This is not how criminal cases are conducted but it seems to be the norm now in sexual assault cases, the accuser only needs to give a testimony and nothing more.

So what is the motivation for this. I don't think it's personal. I think it's an attack on our churches. There are many secular lobby groups and they have big money. The money is used to run campaigns like gay marriage, abortion and the rest. They only have to find people that are willing to take a payment to make these accusations against Christianity.

Some of u may think this is all rubbish. Ok but at the end of the day these are only allegations , they will never be anything more than allegations. You cannot convict a man after he is dead

I agree with what you have said.

Thats just the way the CC rolls, allegations will fly everywhere because of all the past imposters who have been found guilty.

I said the CC has had a hard time with imposters so it's going to get cases.

If he is not guilty, and it's not fair to accuse someone after they die, that's just crooked not giving them a fair chance to defend themself, then the accusers are liars. It's just crooked. Either way someone is crooked.

There is no judgement, it's only one sided allegations with no evidence and there is no defence against the allegations.

Anyone can accuse anyone of anything, it don't mean crap without evidence, need facts and proof.
 
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They have been looking at the accusers...testing their claims to see if there is any validity to them. And sure, many are made up.
But in the article above there are 6 women who are making consistent and similar statements about the priest. Meaning that its likely true.
 
Abuse in the church is an ongoing problem and a large part in preventing it is how each church has prepared and made public how it will deal with accusations of abuse.

Many church have Easter events or summer holiday Bible clubs , senior tea parties, mother and toddler gatherings etc etc.
How does your church let visitors know about there protection policies and how allegations will be handled.
Worth asking.
 
They have been looking at the accusers...testing their claims to see if there is any validity to them. And sure, many are made up.
But in the article above there are 6 women who are making consistent and similar statements about the priest. Meaning that its likely true.

It would not be hard to figure out reading all there individual statements and then can piece together and figure out if they are lies or not.
 
It would not be hard to figure out reading all there individual statements and then can piece together and figure out if they are lies or not.

Na. Unacceptable mate. The law is the law.

1/ No one can be tried and convicted after they die. Plain and simple

The fact there are 6 accusers stands for nothing
Plus 6 different testimonies about 6 different allegations isn't enough to convict him even if he was alive. U can't figure out the truth about an allegation with only a testimony
 
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i think Pell is innocent

I agree i think he's innocent but most importantly is that I know he didn't get a fair trial and I know that there wasn't enough evidence to convict him. There was only the one testimony.

Furthermore Pells defense presented over 10 lines of evidence that contradicted the allegation
 
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