Muhammad the prophet Moses foretold?

[Gary]

"Prophet like you" - Jesus or Muhammad?

"I (the LORD) will raise up for them a Prophet like you (Moses) and he will tell them everything I command him." (Deuteronomy 18:18)

(1) Who is the prophet like Moses? Muhammad or Jesus?
http://debate.org.uk/topics/trtracts/t03.htm

• a. Is there a prediction of Muhammad in the Taurat?
  b. Comparison: Who is the Prophet Like Moses?
  c. Contrast: The Prophet Cannot be Muhammad
  d. Consideration: This Prophet Must be Jesus
  e. Conclusion: Without a Prediction, Where is Muhammad's Authority?
  http://debate.org.uk/topics/trtracts/t03.htm

(2) Moses and the prophet
http://www.answering-islam.org/Gilchrist/muhammad.html

• a. The Word of God in the Prophet's mouth
  b. A prophet from among their Brethren
  c. A Prophet like unto Moses
  d. Jesus - the Prophet like unto Moses
  http://www.answering-islam.org/Gilchris ... l#Part_2_0

(3) Jesus or Muhammad?
http://www.answering-islam.org/Nehls/An ... lemhd.html

• Apart from anything else, the Pharisees, being part of the Chosen People, could not expect any Gentile to be the prophet that was to come. (See Deuteronomy 18:15): "The Lord will raise for you a prophet ... from among you" i.e. the Jews

(4) The Prophet of Deuteronomy 18:18 by Dawud Jabal
http://www.answering-islam.org/Dawud/deut18_18.html

(5) The Claim that Muhammad was the Prophet like Moses
http://www.answering-islam.org/Morin/moses.html

(6) WHO IS THE PROPHET OF DEUTERONOMY 18:18? by Silas
http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/deut1818.htm

 

[Gary]

The Future Prophet

The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own brothers. You must listen to him. (Deuteronomy 18:15 NIV)

The LORD said to me: "What they say is good. I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him. If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name, I myself will call him to account." (Deuteronomy 18:17-19 NIV)

Since then, no prophet has risen in Israel like Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face, who did all those miraculous signs and wonders the LORD sent him to do in Egypt  to Pharaoh and to all his officials and to his whole land. (Deuteronomy 34:10-11 NIV)

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Requirement 1: The future prophet is to speak the words that God puts in his mouth. "…I will put my words in his mouth…" (Deuteronomy 18:18)

Jesus said that He spoke God's word; he heard directly from God.
Jesus answered, "My teaching is not my own. It comes from him who sent me. If anyone chooses to do God’s will, he will find out whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own." (John 7:16-17 NIV)

So Jesus said, "When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am the one I claim to be and that I do nothing on my own but speak just what the Father has taught me." (John 8:28 NIV)

Conclusion: Jesus meets the requirement because He did hear from God directly and He spoke God’s word.

Muhammad heard the Qur’an from a spirit he believed to be Gabriel. Muhammad repeated the words that this spirit spoke.
Your Companion (Muhammad) is neither astray nor being misled, nor does he say (aught) of his own desire. It is no less than inspiration sent down to him: He was taught by one (Gabriel) mighty in power… (Qur’an, Sura 53:2-5 Yusuf Ali)

The Bible contains warnings about angels teaching false messages:
"And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light." (2 Cor 11:14 NIV)

"But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!" (Galatians 1:8 NIV)

Conclusion: Muhammad fails the requirement because he did not hear from God directly. There is a strong possibility that Satan or an angel fooled him.


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Requirement 2: The future prophet is to speak with God face-to-face. "…whom the LORD knew face to face…" (Deuteronomy 34:10)

Jesus was with God prior to being revealed on earth. While he was on earth, he spoke with God face to face.

"No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only (the Only Begotten), who is at the Father’s side, has made him known." (John 1:18 NIV)

"And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began." (John 17:5 NIV)

While he was still speaking, a bright cloud enveloped them, and a voice from the cloud said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. Listen to him!" (Matthew 17:5 NIV)

Conclusion: Jesus meets the requirement because He did speak with God face-to-face.

Muhammad never spoke with God directly. The entire Qur’an was given to him through a medium - a spirit who he thought was Gabriel.

Say: Whoever is an enemy to Gabriel – for he brings down the revelation to thy (Muhammad’s) heart by God’s will… (Qur’an, Sura 2:97 Yusuf Ali)

For indeed he (Muhammad) saw him (Gabriel) at a second descent… (Qur’an, Sura 53:13 Yusuf Ali)

Was the spirit from God? If not, then we can conclude that it was an evil spirit that was deceiving Muhammad.

Conclusion: Muhammad fails the requirement because he did not speak with God face-to-face.


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Requirement 3: The future prophet would perform miracles, signs and wonders. "…who did all those miraculous signs and wonders…" (Deuteronomy 34:11)

Jesus performed many miracles. In total, 35 separate miracles are recorded in the 4 Gospels:

• Healing miracles: Jesus performed at least 23 miracles of healing, including healing people with: leprosy, paralysis, bleeding, blindness, muteness, demon-possession, deafness and dropsy.
  Miracles showing power over nature: Jesus calmed the storm, walked on water, fed thousands, turned water into wine - amongst at least 9 miracles showing power over nature.
  Miracles of raising the dead: Jesus raised at least 3 people from the dead (Jairus’ daughter; the widow’s son at Nain; Lazarus).
  Jesus Christ was resurrected from the dead.

Conclusion: Jesus meets the requirement because He performed many miracles. His greatest sign and wonder was His own resurrection.

The Qur’an shows that Muhammad performed no miracles. Even the people who did not believe him pointed out that Muhammad lacked miracles:

Say: "For me, I (work) on a clear Sign from my Lord, but you reject Him. What you would see hastened (a miracle) is not in my power. The command (to perform a miracle) rests with none but God: He declares the Truth, and He is the best of judges." Say: "If what you would see hastened (a miracle) were in my power, the matter would be settled at once between you and me..." (Qur’an, Sura 6:57,58 Yusuf Ali)

...They (the people who did not believe in Muhammad) say, "Why are not (Signs) sent to him like those sent to Moses?" (Qur’an, Sura 28:48 Yusuf Ali)

The Hadith records some fanciful so-called miracles, but these are purely mythical, because they contradict the Qur’an's statements about Muhammad being unable to perform a miracle. Some of the Hadith so-called "miracles" are simple copycat miracles taken from Bible stories.

Conclusion: Muhammad fails the requirement because even the Qur’an says that he did not perform miracles.


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Summary of the requirements for a "prophet like Moses."
"…God will raise up for you a prophet like me…"
(Deuteronomy 18:15)

1) Jesus spoke God's direct words.

2) Jesus spoke with God face-to-face.

3) Jesus performed many miracles.

Conclusion: Jesus fulfilled ALL the requirements. Jesus is the prophet Moses foretold.

1) Muhammad did not speak God's direct words; he spoke a spirit's words.

2) Muhammad did not speak with God face-to-face.

3) Muhammad did not perform miracles.

Conclusion: Muhammad fails ALL the requirements. Muhammad is not the prophet Moses foretold.

 

[evanman]

For Muhammed to be the prophet he would have to be an Israelite and a Jew!

Guess that disqualifies Muhammed--unless he lied about his parentage!--But that would also disqualify him!

 

[reznwerks]

parentage

For Muhammed to be the prophet he would have to be an Israelite and a Jew!

Guess that disqualifies Muhammed--unless he lied about his parentage!--But that would also disqualify him!

Muslims claim kinship to Ishmael. Ishmael claims kinship to Abraham. Do the math. Muslims may be upset with this but common sense is hard to ignore.

 

[evanman]

Being a kinsman--related to a jew does not make one a Jew!

Mohammed was an Arab--an Ishmaelite.

The prophet was prophecied as coming through Isaac and Israel (Jacob).

Mohammed does not qualify!

 

[reznwerks]

jew

Being a kinsman--related to a jew does not make one a Jew!
What biology class did you take?

Mohammed was an Arab--an Ishmaelite.
The DNA is the same as I've shown in other posts.

The prophet was prophecied as coming through Isaac and Israel (Jacob).
Regardless they all track to Abraham genetically.

Mohammed does not qualify! Genetically he does.

 

[evanman]

Re: jew

Being a kinsman--related to a jew does not make one a Jew!
What biology class did you take?

Mohammed was an Arab--an Ishmaelite.
The DNA is the same as I've shown in other posts.

The prophet was prophecied as coming through Isaac and Israel (Jacob).
Regardless they all track to Abraham genetically.

Mohammed does not qualify! Genetically he does.

If the promised prophet had to be descended from JACOB (Israel) then this disqualifies Mohammed. Mohammed was not descended from Jacob (Israel).

Just because my wife is a kinsperson of a rich Chinese Tiger Balm manufacturer, it doesn't mean that she inherits any titles and deeds from him.

DNA has nothing to do with this--the promise comes through Isaac and Jacob--not any of Ishmael's descendents!
Mohammed does NOT qualify!

 

[City Of God]

Abraham was not a Jew, neither was Jacob (Isreal), but yes the promise was through his seed not that of Ishmael. Mohammad is the seed of the flesh and is Anti Christ.

 

[reznwerks]

seed

Abraham was not a Jew, neither was Jacob (Isreal), but yes the promise was through his seed not that of Ishmael. Mohammad is the seed of the flesh and is Anti Christ.

The seed that used in the bible is understood to be the literal transference of genetic material.No matter how you slice it the originator Abraham has dibs on ALL the descendants. In defense of the muslim position though Jesus cannot be compared to Moses. Jesus never led his people.
"And the Lord said onto me, they have well spoken that which they have spoken, I will raise them up a prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him." (Deuteronomy 18:17-18)

Jesus was never "raised" up from the brethren. To make this claim is to deny that God fathered Jesus. We already know from the words of Joseph that he did not father the child that Mary bore.
Moses had a father wife children and led a nation. Jesus did none of these.
It can also be argued that "brethren" is not Israelites but "brothers" of which Mohammed clearly qualifies. Actually I don't think either one qualifies as being the one foretold in the bible. Jesus doesn't fulfill a whole lot of Messianic prophecies. Don't confuse those prophecies that Christians use in the O/T with messianic prophecies as they weren't and aren't considered prophecies as they are manufactured.
Here is the ORIGINAL MESSIANIC prophecies and then ask yourself if Jesus actually fulfilled them.
http://messiahtruth.com/psalms7.html

 

[Gary]

Brethren

CONTEXT OF “BRETHRENâ€Â

To begin with, the term used for 'brethren' is used in a variety of ways in the Old Testament, (Taurat, Zabur). What must be addressed is the context for the term 'brethren'. If the context of how it is used means anyone loosely related to the Israelites, then perhaps it is possible that Muhammad could be the prophet. If the context means that the future prophet is to be an Israelite, then Muhammad could not be that prophet.

In one sense, since Muslims and Christians believe that all humans are descendants of Adam and Eve, then all of us are brothers and sisters. But Muslims insist that the meaning of "brethren" in the Deuteronomy 18:18 verse is one who is a descendant of Abraham, not Adam. Is their definition valid? What is the context for the use of the term "brethren" in the Old Testament, and specifically, Deuteronomy?

Here are three different ways the term 'brethren' is used in Deuteronomy:

• 1) used for relating the 12 tribes together,
  
  2) used to relate the Levites amongst themselves as brothers, as in 18:7
  
  3) used to relate the Israelites to the Edomites, as in 2:4.

I did research into the way the term 'brethren' is used throughout the Old Testament. I found that the Hebrew word is 'awkh'. It generally means 'a brother' used in the widest sense of literal relationships, and metaphorically, having an affinity or resemblance. 'awkh' is also translated (in the King James Version - I'm using a Strong's King James Version concordance) 'another' as in 1 Chr 26:12, ('relatives' in New International Version), as 'like' in Ezekiel 18:10, and as 'other' in Genesis 13:11.

Brown's Hebrew lexicon also reinforced Strong's definition. It states that the word can be translated in various ways: 1) as brother, meaning born of the same mother, 2) indefinite relative, a kinship in a wider sense, as in Lot being a 'brother' of Abraham in Genesis 13:8 ... Lot was Abram's nephew, not literal brother, or the Israelite tribes being brothers, or as in Israel and Edom being brothers, and likewise for Israel and Judah.

It is also used to denote close friendships like 2 Samuel 1:26 - the relationship between David and Jonathan, or used for allies - as in Amos 1:9.

Brown's also states that it is used as a figure of resemblance as in Job 30:29 ... Job was not the literal brother to a jackal, Job was identifying with being abandoned. And, it is used to denote the cherubim facing each other in Exodus 25:20, and as 'the sight' of a crocodile in Job 41:9!

Another verse I found is in Proverbs 18:9 "One who is slack in his work is brother to him who destroys". Again, the use is metaphorical.

All of the above shows that the term 'awkh' can be used in various ways; part of its specific meaning being defined by the context in which it is used.

So, digging deeper into the contexts of how "brethren" is used start with the book of Deuteronomy. The first clue to the context of "brethren" is from the purpose of the book of Deuteronomy itself. The name Deuteronomy means 'copy of the law'; the law for who? - the Israelites, no one else. This book was given specifically to the Israelites, it was Moses' farewell address to them. A large part of it was a review of the laws between God and the Israelites, and its reading was to prepare them to enter into the promised land.

Next, I took a look at how the term 'brethren' (King James Version) is used throughout Deuteronomy. I found that it is used about 20 times, at least 14 times it means 'fellow Israelites' - members of the 12 tribes. Twice it is used to ref. the Edomites, and once for Levitical brothers, once for literal brothers (25:5), and twice for the verses in question: 18:15,18.

Therefore, the overwhelming majority of times the context is used for referring to 'fellow Israelites'.

Source: http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/deut1818.htm

 

[YESHUA]

Abraham was not a Jew, neither was Jacob (Isreal), but yes the promise was through his seed not that of Ishmael. Mohammad is the seed of the flesh and is Anti Christ.

Abraham was a hebrew read your bible and the first language spoken was hebrew
shalom chana