Must one Believe to be saved ?

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Re: That would be the Calvinist: "Irresistible Grace" fantasy -

I agree.. Calvinists need to believe that they're special and that they got the call to repentance which they couldn't resist.. because their testimony is that they could not believe that Christ died for their sins.. God had to repent and believe for them.

 

[savedbygrace57]

bob:

It is ABSOLUTELY TRUE that nobody comes to the father UNLESS he's drawn

But once one is coming, they have already been regenerated..thats what the coming signifies..

For darkness does not come to the light at all..

So being drawn means spiritual life is present already..

 

[savedbygrace57]

d4:

There is no need to be sorry. I got the definition you deny from Strong's so my conscience is clear.

I also consulted strongs, and thats how I know your defining of the word is incomplete, mine is more complete..

Jesus gives the cause for their inability or the no, its simply because they are not born of God..Until that happens, which man has no control over, it will always be a negative reaction to the things of God, to include hearing His word..