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my daughter 17 is an athiest, my son 20 in the Army is going thru a divorce

honeykiss

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Wondering what my role as a spiritual leader should be, I commend their minds. Spirits and bodies to Our Lord everyday but don't want to under step or overstep my boundaries.
When I pray I ask that the Lord give me discernment and that His will be done, not mine.
I wonder if anyone else has wisdom to share?
 
Yes, God does the saving, you only do the witnessing. And at the risk of sounding like a heretic, God may not want everyone saved now. The purpose of the church is to rule and reign with Christ at his literal return here on this earth one day. In the millennium more people will be taught of the Lord, and the church will partake in that teaching to the population and many more will be saved then.

However, no matter when one will be saved, I will say this much: the scripture is clear that everyone will be given a chance. What about the heathen in the remotest parts of wherever that never heard the gospel and died? you may ask. I said, and repeat again, everyone will be given a chance, now or later and likewise even in the life to come.

So don't push the issue with your kids. You can't save them or persuade them to be saved any more than you can change the seasons. Start trusting God, and merely do your part telling them about God. For that matter, it may pay for you to make sure you really do know about the Lord and his Word as much of what's going around these days is merely religiosity.
 
Though I disagree with post-mortem salvation (sounds a little too much like Rob Bell's latest mildly-heretical book), it's not a big deal because the advice was spot on - your job is to share the Gospel with them when you get the chance, and be a witness to them in the way you act and live out your love for the Lord. As tim-from-pa said so well
tim-from-pa said:
"You can't save them or persuade them to be saved any more than you can change the seasons. Start trusting God, and merely do your part telling them about God."
Immerse yourself in books like Proverbs and Paul's letters (par. Romans & 1Corinthians) to see how general & parental love and wisdom from the Lord is lived out :)
 
Wondering what my role as a spiritual leader should be

Be their landing pad. 17 is a volitile age of knowitallism and self importance, your son is crashing into the realities of life on the otherside of the life's equation.


You have taught them, you have been there for them. Be there for them again. You can't out argue the knowitall, and you can't brow beat the crashed and burned.

When they come to the quietness of their heart, they will remember what you have told them, when they want to come back, be there.
 
Be their landing pad. 17 is a volitile age of knowitallism and self importance, your son is crashing into the realities of life on the otherside of the life's equation.


You have taught them, you have been there for them. Be there for them again. You can't out argue the knowitall, and you can't brow beat the crashed and burned.

When they come to the quietness of their heart, they will remember what you have told them, when they want to come back, be there.
:biglol I love that word "knowitallism" I am going to use that one.
 
Pray for them, support them and be a good witness.

I agree with most advice above but am a little appalled at most people's assumption that your son is not a Christian, you never said. Just because he is going through a divorce doesn't mean he isnt a Christian.

One of my brother in laws went through a divorce after 8 years marriage and no one would question his Christian faith, humility and his demonstration of the fruits of the spirit. (his first wife was a Christian) We attended his second marriage last week to another Christian lady adn we all couldnt be happier.

Back to your problem. Some more info might help for more advice.

No matter what age your kids are, you never stop being a parent.

Best of luck
 
Thanks to all for reaffirming to Live in Christ and be a witness. My son Sean and daughter Shaelana have both been raised Christian. My son negated his Maker and married last year. But as of this week has returned to his Faith in Christ perhaps due to his hardships with current divorce. His attitude has changed for the better. My question regarding him was more towards the advice I should give him concerning divorce. As a divorced single mother myself, I understand that God does not want us to live in an abusive relationship, but as a witness also know that God doesn't want divorce. He kept asking me what he should do. At 1st I said work it out, turn it over to God and don't point fingers, as it takes 2 to make or break a marriage. Pray and search your heart, take responsibility for your part. I said remember to pray for her too, she is still one with you irregardless of actions and words said in anger. Later, I explained that God does not want divorce but neither does he want or advocate being in an abusive relationship. And only by aligning his soul with Christ can he pray and LISTEN to what his heart tells him after being in presence of God.
So I just didn't want to give him wrong advice. I found myself praying daily for both he and his wife Chanel. That they both find peace with God amidst their storm.
Look like the divorce is going thru but Sean has learned a valuable lesson
"Hard times can shrivel our spirits, and give rise to a multitude of 'crows' in the form of troublesome worries.
Times of great loss or personal failure break weaker people;
but the strong of heart can bend with the wailing winds.
To endure hard times
— or even grow and benefit from them
In a sense, there is no such
thing as failure.
There is only sweet and sour reality, and more is learned from the sour, oftentimes, than from the sweet.
For failure, hard as it may be to swallow, opens the blinds to the real world, and reawakens the clarity of vision known only to those who have risked, and tasted, disappointment."
And I am grateful to Christ for my son's willingness to open his heart and soul to Him who always takes us back and restores us giving us strength when we have none, our unfailing amazing Father.
My daughter Lana informed me at 15 that she never really believed in God but she thought she couldn't speak up for fear of me being upset with her
Interestingly, she said after my divorce was when she was sure there was no God
At 1st I was, saying to her if it wasn't for God and my love for you and Sean, I would not have overcome the many trials we have gone thru. But later figured, I am not in control, God is. And in His perfect timing, he will touch her at a point where "science and logic" no longer are suffecient for her situation. Or maybe a friend will be a witness and Lana will be moved.
Her morals are intact, she even requested for me to buy her a celabate ring, or purity ring for she olans on saving herself until marriage. She noticed though that no store knows what that kind of ring means, represents or looks like, until we went to the christian store, lol. She was very clear to me and salesperson that she isn't christian and I said ok I get it you don't believe in God, but He and I believe in you!
But who am I to yearn for her to know and feel what has taken me all my life to understand and appreciate with our Lord. I have strayed many times and turned from His ways always thinking only I know what's best for me. Ego, was my worst enemy!
Sadly, I was always a good Mom in many ways, I instilled morals, ethics, and win win situations for every day life, but not enough Christ minded surrender and trust.

With Light and Love,
Lisa
 
Hi Lisa

Thanks for your heartfelt sharing of your family.

Keep spending quality time with them. It's good that you can be around them when they need you.

My eldest daughter is 16 years old and though she is born in a Christian home, I cannot assume that she simply believes God just because my wife and I are Christians. We make special efforts to help her experience the Love of God by herself. We constantly talk to her about her school, friends and fun activities and bringing God into the picture and listen to her feedback. Her feedback means a lot to us. For example, we (whole family) play tennis every Sunday afternoon and each time the sky darkens, I would initiate to pray for good weather. At first I pray, then she prays, and so far, God hasn't disappoints. So, when the sky darkens, my daughters would initiate, 'Let's pray'. This is a simple but nevertheless, important step towards helping them to trust God in their life. It has not been easy but my wife and I try. Interestingly, it is through doing things together as a family that sharing to them about God is the least difficult.
 
Wondering what my role as a spiritual leader should be, I commend their minds. Spirits and bodies to Our Lord everyday but don't want to under step or overstep my boundaries.
When I pray I ask that the Lord give me discernment and that His will be done, not mine.
I wonder if anyone else has wisdom to share?


I wish my mother could talk to you, but I was a self proclaimed atheist at 17 also. My parents just kind of said "good Luck to you.". They prayed for me. I know that now, but they did not coddle me, beg me, get in my business.

They stood firm in the word of God and let me live my life. I was not out of control or anything, but spiritually I was dead.

I'm 45 now. I became a Christian at 25. My parents bought me a bible that Christmas. They did not know I'd become a Christian other than they found a bible in my house that I had taken from a hotel, A Gideon Bible. My mom just let herself in to drop off something for me and found it on a chair, with my little book mark in it and some pages highlighted. So, they got me a bible that Christmas.

I opened it, and she wrote, From: Mom and Dad; 'You don't have to be ashamed"

So, pray for your kids. Practice, proverbs 22:6. They may run, but they can't hide.
 
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