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Naming false teachers

False teachers / prophets organizations is one thing that really gets under my skin.
These people need to be exposed.
I will start with Benny Hinn
With all due respect, wouldn't it be appropriate to begin with yourself?

What I mean is, are you certain you have never taught falsely? You may have never intended to but isn't it possible, even likely that you have spoken incorrectly concerning some aspect of God's word in the past?

Isn't it likely that there are beliefs you currently hold to be true that you may one day find out are not?

Who can claim to know absolute truth in all things? No one.

I know I have believed things in the past that I have had to repent for and change because my merciful Father revealed certain errors that I held. I know I have many more and hope that Almighty God will reveal them all to me and be merciful.

It is true that there may be some or even many who deliberately try to mislead people, but that doesn't absolve those who teach falsely but didn't intend to.

No wonder the Bible says such things as,

Hear the word of the Lord, You who tremble at His word (Isaiah 65:5a)

The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit, A broken and a contrite heartâ€â€These, O God, You will not despise (Ps. 51:17).

Bondservants, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in sincerity of heart, as to Christ (Eph. 6:5).

Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling (Phil. 2:12).

Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth (2 Tim. 2:15).

R7-12
 
I have and repented
I have been a victum as well and If I can save but one person from falling into the hands of these false prophets then I will continue to do what I do and say what I say. We are called to be light in darkness and we are the salt of the earth. If your going to quote verses at me then quote them in contex.
 
I think the first false teacher on Earth AD has been Paul. He has taught the complete opposite of Jesus teaching, it were his disciples who has written Gospel of John (no Gospel has been written by its supposed author, but you can clearly see that Gospel of John doesn't belong to the other three Gospels, be it text, format, message, style of writing ir views on Jews/Jesus).
 
KaerbEmEvig said:
I think the first false teacher on Earth AD has been Paul. He has taught the complete opposite of Jesus teaching, it were his disciples who has written Gospel of John (no Gospel has been written by its supposed author, but you can clearly see that Gospel of John doesn't belong to the other three Gospels, be it text, format, message, style of writing ir views on Jews/Jesus).

Deception In The Church

2 Tim. 4: 2-5 (NIV) Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage -- with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths. But you, keep your head in all situations, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, discharge all the duties of your ministry.

1Cor. 4:6 (Wey) In writing this much, brethren. . . I have done so for your sakes, in order to teach you by our example what those words mean, which say, "Nothing beyond what is written!" [NIV - "Do not go beyond what is written"] so that you may cease to take sides in boastful rivalry, for one teacher against another.
 
"Do not go beyond what is written" - what is written in scriptures created by his disciples... Simply look at what he preached and what Jesus preached.
 
KaerbEmEvig said:
"Do not go beyond what is written" - what is written in scriptures created by his disciples... Simply look at what he preached and what Jesus preached.

I don't understand what your saying?
Can u give some examples?
 
jgredline said:
False teachers / prophets organizations is one thing that really gets under my skin.
These people need to be exposed.
I will start with Benny Hinn
http://www.christianresearchservice.com/Benny_Hinn.htm
I don't think it wise to judge this Chrisitan? I have not found him to be teaching falsely other than some (seemingly) outlandish endtimes theories which in my opinion is not a big deal. He preaches the message of salvation, people are getting saved and healed, set free. I don't agree totaly with his "methods" but then again I don't agree totaly with Smith Wigglesworth's methods either but many even today are touched by his minestry. I think of the scripture where Jesus says not to stop the people for talking about Him because they were not "one of them". We need to remember that Benny Hinn is just a man & he needs our prayers more than anyone! He is more influential than anyone I know & I have watched his show many times on the television and been blessed & my relationship with God has increased because of ths.
 
KaerbEmEvig said:
I think the first false teacher on Earth AD has been Paul. He has taught the complete opposite of Jesus teaching, it were his disciples who has written Gospel of John (no Gospel has been written by its supposed author, but you can clearly see that Gospel of John doesn't belong to the other three Gospels, be it text, format, message, style of writing ir views on Jews/Jesus).

The Everlasting covenant is where the persons of the Godhead entered into before time to saved the elect. Father God gives the Son, God the Son offers Himself as a perfect sacrifice while God the Holy Spirit administers the covenant. Titus 1:2, Hebrews 13:20 The elect of God are tested according to a particular purpose of God that is to be accomplished within that dispensation of time. We see a difference among God’s elect, ‘new wine in new wine skins’ Matthew 9:17 and Paul lists Jews, Gentiles and the Church as God's people...his elect.

You need to understand the covenant to understand Paul. The theme in the Bible is one of faith (as the horse) and works (as the cart). In the O.T. Abraham was justified by faith and that justification was justified/vindicated by works. When Abraham believed God (Romans 4:2), he believed God's covenant promise. When Israel wondered in the wilderness they broke the covenant when they didn't believe God. John 1:12; Romans 3:28; Romans 5:1; James 2:17, 22, 26; Galatians 5:6 The seed promised to Abraham, is the Covenant of Grace. The apostle Paul in Gal. 3:29 identifies all believers as the seed of Abraham, while also stating Christ himself (Gal. 3:16) is the seed. If you are IN Christ, you are heir to the promise and that promise can be found in Gen. 3:15. The fact that salvation is monergistic, covenant understanding or framing of the word of God is the only valid way in which to view the truth revealed. The Gospel has always been a Gospel of grace and justification has always been received by faith alone (Rom 4:3), all who believe are blessed with Abraham (Gal 3:9 "Therefore those who are of faith are blessed with believing Abraham.") and we/believers are the sons of Abraham (Gal 3:7 "Know therefore that those who are of faith, these are sons of Abraham.", 29 "And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.")

The promise in Genesis 17:7 "And I will establish my covenant between me and thee, and thy seed after thee, in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to bee a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee." AV 1611 God is the God of Abraham and to his seed, in an everlasting covenant, believers are blessed. This is Grace! This theme is repeated in Scripture, it is the theme of all covenants. When Christ tells us, "Thine they were, and thou gavest them me," and "Those whom thou gavest me I have kept," etc. John 17:6,12 He is speaking of His sheep. The Bible declares the promise and conditions of the covenant, and presents them in connection. Isaiah 53:10,11; Isaiah 13:6; Psalm 89:3. In John 10:18 and Luke 22:29 we see Christ's mission, the rewards are based upon the completion of this mission John 17:4; John 17:6,9,24; Philippians 2:6,11. The conditions under which Christ was to complete His task were on the behalf of His elect, removing the sin they incurred for breaking the covenants (Matthew 5:17,18) which Christ accomplished. Jesus Christ followed the Law perfectly (Psalm 40:8; Isaiah 13:21; John 9:4,5; 8:29; Matthew 19:17) and suffered in place of His people (Isaiah 53:; 2 Corinthians 5:21; Galatians 3:13; Ephesians 5:2.) The theological term is federal headship and can be found clearly in Romans 5, where Adam fell (as head of the human race) and his sin passed onto us.

The above was written based on notes taken while reading "Outlines of Theology" by Hodge, "Gerformeerde Dogmatiek" by Bavinck and "Gerformeerde Dogmatiek" by Heppe. It was a while ago now, so I can't be sure which concepts belong to which theologians, I blended them to reflect the understanding I now have based on Romans 11.

Just wanted to add, Jesus Christ is "the Lamb of God, who was foreordained before the foundation of the world," (1 Peter 1:20) and was "Slain from the foundation of the world," (Rev. 13:8). Christ made atonement and redeemed those "chosen in him before the foundation of the world," (Eph. 1:4) and "From the beginning chosen to salvation," (2 Thess. 2:13). "According to his own purpose and grace, which was given them in Christ Jesus before the world began," (2 Tim. 1:9) and "Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father," (I Peter 1:2). Believers are predestined according to the purpose of God who works all things after the counsel of his own will, (Eph. 1:11) not ours.

Paul, the able minister of the NEW COVENANT!

Rambled on...

Peace,

JM :oops:
 
jgredline said:
False teachers / prophets organizations is one thing that really gets under my skin.
These people need to be exposed.
I will start with Benny Hinn
http://www.christianresearchservice.com/Benny_Hinn.htm

Some of these TV preachers absolutely disgust me. That includes any of them who try to get poor and old people to send them money in exchange for miracles of money or healing. On the other hand, there are some good ones who may perform a needed service for the homebound.
 
Poke said:
jgredline said:
False teachers / prophets organizations is one thing that really gets under my skin.
These people need to be exposed.
I will start with Benny Hinn
http://www.christianresearchservice.com/Benny_Hinn.htm

Some of these TV preachers absolutely disgust me. That includes any of them who try to get poor and old people to send them money in exchange for miracles of money or healing. On the other hand, there are some good ones who may perform a needed service for the homebound.

Poke
Thats exactly my point. There are some really good TV preachers but sadly
there are more false prophets.
 
We can't forget Carlton Pearson. He is from my home town. He went all whacked out not that long ago. Now he teaches that everyone will go to heaven in the end. He also doesn't believe in Hell anymore. Says we all have our oiwn personal hells and the Devil is just a pagan myth. (Which really upsets my pagan friends!)
 
It sounds to me like he adopted a form of Universal Reconcilation. Though the UR people do believe in Hell, most will say that only Satan and his fallen angels will he there. Some do think that even Satan and the fallen will eventually be released from Hell and are reconclied also. :o

This man denies both those concepts of UR belief. :-?
 
jgredline said:
Poke
Thats exactly my point. There are some really good TV preachers but sadly
there are more false prophets.
jgredline, thanks for starting this thread!
The #1 TV preacher who gets deep under my skin is BILLY GRAHAM!
 
ThreeInOne said:
jgredline, thanks for starting this post!
The #1 TV preacher who gets deep under my skin is BILLY GRAHAM!

Billy, How so...Not that I am disagreeing with you as I was :o when he said basically all roads lead to heaven...
 
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