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I realize sexual immorality, such as masturbation, is wrong. It is something I am trying to avoid. There was one day when I thought/heard of The Holy Ghost and then I committed sexual immorality, such as masturbation. Since The Holy Ghost is involved, is this unforgivable?

Reason I ask is because I am reminded of blasphemy of The Holy Ghost and the unforgivable sin.

Information appreciated.
 
Well, if masturbation is the unforgivable sin, heaven is going to be very thin of company, and that vast mulitude that Revelations talks about must be incorrect.

The best way to answer your concern here would be to look at what 1 Corinthians 6:16-20 has to say:

16Or do you not know that the one who joins himself to a prostitute is one body with her? For He says, "THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH."

17But the one who joins himself to the Lord is one spirit with Him.

18 Flee immorality. Every other sin that a man commits is outside the body, but the immoral man sins against his own body.

19Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own?

20 For you have been bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body.

Now, we know that prosititution isn't the unforgivable sin. If prostitution isn't the unforgivable sin, then we need not worry that masturbation is either.
 
Thanks for the prompt reply. I realize masturbation itself is not the unforgivable sin, but in the original post, I was a bit more specific. Reason I asked was because I heard/thought of The Holy Ghost before masturbating. Now since The Holy Ghost was involved when I masturbated, does this make it unforgivable?
 
No. Which was why I posted the text from 1 Corinthians. To me, this text is showing us that a: our body is the temple of the Spirit and the Spirit is in us and b: when we engage in inmorality (and the contest is sexual sin) then we bring the temple of the Spirit into that situation.

This was what I took to be your concern in your OP. That you brought the Spirit into the sin, therefore blasphemed the Spirit. I understand that you brought the Spirit into the sin, which most likely grieved the Spirit. And, the fact that you thought of Him, yet continued in sin anyway, shows that you quenched the Spirit in that situation.

Neither of these things are healthy at all. But, neither are they specifically the 'Blaspheme of the Spirit" which is unforgivable.

You have much to ask forgiveness here, but nonetheless, be assured that forgiveness is available.
 
That makes me understand better. So sexual immorality, such as masturbation, after/during/before hearing or thinking of The Holy Spirit is not unforgivable. I realize even though it is forgivable, it is still a sin and is something I need to avoid. Now, the other question I had was this. Please don`t take this as a joke.

Would thinking of purchasing something or actually purchasing something (ie. musical instrument or device, clothing) the same day or next day after you committed sexual immorality (such as committing the masturbation in the original post with The Holy Spirit) be considered as an unforgivable sin?
 
I think the confusion comes from the way you are looking at sin, like it's some kind of poison that stays in the system for a while, tainting things that happen while you're still under it's effect.

Rather, look at sin this way, it's disobedience against God, and it makes Him upset when you engage in it. Jesus died to take away any enslavement you have to sin. It's not your master, but you have the worst of all possible 'bad habits'. Like any other bad habit, keep feeding it, and it will enslave you again. Resist it, and you will overcome it. Resist it, and ask forgiveness when you do fail. Resist it yet again, don't take God's grace for granted and have a cavalier "I'll just do as I please because God will forgive me" attitude. But, on the other hand, don't think God's grace is so fragile a thing that falling into bad habit is enough to cause you never to be forgiven again.

Also, what is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. This is truly the only unforgiveable sin. Every other sin against the Father or the Son will be forgiven, but not blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. What is it? It's when one knows something is truly of the Spirit, such as the Pharisee's understanding that the works and miracles of Christ could only be by the Spirit, and yet one ascribes those works to Satan, or to science or to man, especially so that one can remain in a power position, then that is blasphemy of the Spirit. The Pharisees engaged in this: They knew that Jesus was the Messiah, they knew the signs, they knew the miracles could only come from God, and yet, in order to retain thier power position over the people, they tried to convince everyone else that Jesus was doing what He was doing by the power of Satan. See Matthew 12:25-32

I know that some have defined blasphemy of the Holy Spirit as the final rejection of Christ's saving grace for themselves, but I really don't see that interpretation in Scripture.

I hope that this answers your question, because in all honesty, I had a tough time understanding it.

BTW, I'm not even addressing whether or not masturbation is a sin. While there might be some here that think it isn't and some who are convinced it is, it really doesn't matter, Because as long as GI thinks it's sin, for him it is.
 
GuitarIntro said:
Thanks for the prompt reply. I realize masturbation itself is not the unforgivable sin, but in the original post, I was a bit more specific. Reason I asked was because I heard/thought of The Holy Ghost before masturbating. Now since The Holy Ghost was involved when I masturbated, does this make it unforgivable?
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The Holy Ghost was involved? Holy .....! :-D

Wait until you get my age. Then your problem will be over and done with and can care less. As a matter of fact, you will still need help, but more like in doing what you a trying not to do now. :-D
 
My other follow-up question was this:

Would thinking of purchasing something or actually purchasing something (ie. musical instrument or device, clothing) the same day or next day after you committed sexual immorality (such as committing the masturbation in the original post with The Holy Spirit) be considered as an unforgivable sin?
 
Very true, CC. I believe that it can be safely asserted that as long as one is concerned about forgiveness and is seeking forgiveness, then that is ample proof that one has not blasphemed the Holy Spirit.

Thinking about the Holy Spirit while sinning is called 'conviction'. Get used to it, because it will be your companion in sin from now on out. Listen to it, and you will sin less and less.

My other follow-up question was this:

Would thinking of purchasing something or actually purchasing something (ie. musical instrument or device, clothing) the same day or next day after you committed sexual immorality (such as committing the masturbation in the original post with The Holy Spirit) be considered as an unforgivable sin?
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I have no idea what you are getting at here. Perhaps you could try to explain what you mean a bit more clearly. I'm most confident that this isn't blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, but as to what this is, I'm not really sure!?! :crazyeyes: :-D
 
I am not too sure where my follow-up question is sin, but what I meant was this.

If you committed sexual immorality, such as masturbation, while thinking of The Holy Spirit. And then you purchase something afterwards (clothing or musical equipment/device), is this an unforgivable sin?
 
GuitarIntro said:
I am not too sure where my follow-up question is sin, but what I meant was this.

If you committed sexual immorality, such as masturbation, while thinking of The Holy Spirit. And then you purchase something afterwards (clothing or musical equipment/device), is this an unforgivable sin?
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No offense dude, but that's wierd. Why would you be thinking of the Holy Spirit while you're doing THAT. Never mind... ...do not answer.

I stick by what I said: If you sincerely seek God's forgiveness, no sin is unforgivable. The key word here is "SINCERELY". That must be coupled with a real attempt to not commit the sin again.
 
GuitarIntro said:
I am not too sure where my follow-up question is sin, but what I meant was this.

If you committed sexual immorality, such as masturbation, while thinking of The Holy Spirit. And then you purchase something afterwards (clothing or musical equipment/device), is this an unforgivable sin?
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What is the connection between the masturbation and the purchase, and why would this involve unforgivable sin. (Not saying it does, but why do you think it might.)
 
What is wrong is that the question makes no sense to me. Sorry, I'm not trying to be insulting here, but to borrow a line from a great old movie, "What we have here is a failure to communicate."

I don't think I'm being too dense here, (perhaps I am though, it's been a long day, and I'm not finished by any means) but this question is kind of like those Netflick's commercials: "If it's windy on Tuesday, what color is the truck?"

I just can't figure out the connection between masturbation and buying clothing or a musical insturment afterwards. Help me out here.
 
handy said:
What is wrong is that the question makes no sense to me. Sorry, I'm not trying to be insulting here, but to borrow a line from a great old movie, "What we have here is a failure to communicate."

I don't think I'm being too dense here, (perhaps I am though, it's been a long day, and I'm not finished by any means) but this question is kind of like those Netflick's commercials: "If it's windy on Tuesday, what color is the truck?"

I just can't figure out the connection between masturbation and buying clothing or a musical insturment afterwards. Help me out here.
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I can't really figure out the connection.

Perhaps, it was done on the same day? Like committing sexual immorality (as mentioned previously in the thread) and then THINKING of buying something that same day or next day. And then you actually buy something (like a shirt or musical device) that same day or the next day.

Does that make purchasing something unforgivable if you committed sexual immorality (as mentioned previously in the thread) before that?
 
OK, let me try answering this this way, which indeed would be the answer even if I did understand you're question, which I don't.

But, There is NO connection between masturbation and buying clothes, either on the same day, or even the same hour. Unless one is doing a lot more in the dressing room than checking out if the pants make the heinie look fat, there is no connection between the two. And, even if one was getting to know that muscial device in a way that would be sure to void the return policy, there is no connection between that and unforgivable sin.

Did someone say to you that if you masturbate then go shopping you've committed the unforgivable sin? Is that why you are asking this?

If so, they were wrong.
 
No, no one said it was unforgivable. I don't know why I even thought that.

So there is no connection between the sexual immorality mentioned in this thread and buying stuff (like clothes and musical instruments/devices, etc) afterwards, correct?
 
Only if the purchase was for 'services rendered'. Because then the issue is prostitution rather tha. . .

Just kidding. :P

Nope, no connections.
 
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