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UN NGO Reps Pledge to Follow Noahide Laws

By David Yisraeli

2011-01-04 -- WDC Media News --
(Religion)

24 Tevet 5771 (31.12.2010) -- A conference advocating for the acceptance and adherence to the Noahide Laws was held on December 22, 2010.

The event's title was “Unity, Youth and World Peace”. Presenters included Mr. Joop Theunissen from the United Nations Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC), and Rabbi Yakov D. Cohen of the Institute of Noahide Code, who opened and moderated the conference.

More than 90 people attended this important event, many of whom expressed an interest in continuing this work.

Mr Joop Theunissen Deputy Chief of the NGO branch of ECOSOC signed a proclamation pledging to keep the Laws of Noah.

"Their observance is required, so that the vision of the United Nations – to have a settled and civilized world, in which economic justice and righteousness will prevail - can be fulfilled, with all of us working together in unison."


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Noahide Laws

According to Jewish tradition, the Noahide Laws (Hebrew: שבע מצוות בני נח, Sheva mitzvot b'nei Noach), also called the Brit Noah ("Covenant of Noah") refer to seven religious laws that were given by God to Adam and Noah, which are considered to be morally binding on non-Jews. These laws are listed in the Talmud and elucidated by post-Talmudic authorities. Opinions differ on the reach of these commandments and the laws derived from them, but all contemporary Jewish authorities agree that there are seven commandments. These commandments and laws are based on oral traditions as well as scriptural exegesis of Genesis 2:16 and Genesis 9:4-6.

The Noahide Laws are significant because they attempt to extend God's saving grace outside the realm of Judaism so that non-Jews will also have a share in the world to come (in so far as they follow the Noahide Laws).

The seven laws listed by the Tosefta and the Talmud are:

Prohibition of Idolatry
Prohibition of Murder
Prohibition of Theft
Prohibition of Sexual immorality
Prohibition of Blasphemy
Prohibition of eating flesh taken from an animal while it is still alive
Establishment of law courts

Seven Laws of Noah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


According to Talmudic authorities, worship of Jesus is considered IDOLOTRY and is punishable by death.

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You do know that the Noachide laws were given by God to Noah and his seed right? You do know that the Noachide laws predate the covenant to Abraham; which Paul argues the Law cannot disannul Abraham's covenant because it was added afterwards, howbeit then can Abraham's covenant disannul the Noachide laws?

1. Prohibition of Idolatry
2. Prohibition of Murder
3. Prohibition of Theft
4. Prohibition of Sexual immorality
5. Prohibition of Blasphemy
6. Prohibition of eating flesh taken from an animal while it is still alive
7. Establishment of law courts

Which of these laws do you have a beef with? Why are they so satanic? The talmud is garbage. Who cares what it says? Their application of exegesis is irrelevant. God set these laws and they misinterpret their application. The talmud accepts Abraham and other prophets. Because the talmud promotes them, should we reject them too? No, in no way.

So? Are you promoting idolatry, murder, theft, sexual perversion, blasphemy, consuming flesh and blood from a living creature, and anarchy? If not, then you consent that the Noachide laws are good.
 
You do know that the Noachide laws were given by God to Noah and his seed right? You do know that the Noachide laws predate the covenant to Abraham; which Paul argues the Law cannot disannul Abraham's covenant because it was added afterwards, howbeit then can Abraham's covenant disannul the Noachide laws?

Show me where in the Bible these laws were given to Noah?

1. Prohibition of Idolatry
2. Prohibition of Murder
3. Prohibition of Theft
4. Prohibition of Sexual immorality
5. Prohibition of Blasphemy
6. Prohibition of eating flesh taken from an animal while it is still alive
7. Establishment of law courts

Every single one if you please.

Which of these laws do you have a beef with? Why are they so satanic? The talmud is garbage. Who cares what it says? Their application of exegesis is irrelevant. God set these laws and they misinterpret their application. The talmud accepts Abraham and other prophets. Because the talmud promotes them, should we reject them too? No, in no way.

The talmud not only promotes them, talmudic rabbis in the form of the SANHEDRIN are to be the governing body of these laws. The top of the food chain for law #7. So whether or not you like it, you will care what they say at some point.

So? Are you promoting idolatry, murder, theft, sexual perversion, blasphemy, consuming flesh and blood from a living creature, and anarchy? If not, then you consent that the Noachide laws are good.

I'm promoting worship of Jesus Christ, which the talmudic Noahide laws reject as idolotry.

I notice you leave out Law number 7 in your quote above. Do you regard the setting up of religious courts as.....good?
 
Show me where in the Bible these laws were given to Noah?

1. Prohibition of Idolatry
2. Prohibition of Murder
3. Prohibition of Theft
4. Prohibition of Sexual immorality
5. Prohibition of Blasphemy
6. Prohibition of eating flesh taken from an animal while it is still alive
7. Establishment of law courts

Every single one if you please.



The talmud not only promotes them, talmudic rabbis in the form of the SANHEDRIN are to be the governing body of these laws. The top of the food chain for law #7. So whether or not you like it, you will care what they say at some point.



I'm promoting worship of Jesus Christ, which the talmudic Noahide laws reject as idolotry.

I notice you leave out Law number 7 in your quote above. Do you regard the setting up of religious courts as.....good?

When I said anarchy I was referring to no establishment of law. I didnt leave anything off.

The laws are found in Genesis all throughout, many even predating Noah, such as murder established when Able was slain. Why are you so against these laws?

Also, what set of rules do you think this verse is talking about?

Genesis 26:5 (King James Version)
Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
 
When I said anarchy I was referring to no establishment of law. I didnt leave anything off.

Ah yes the common charge levelled from legalists at Christians who obey God's moral laws by nature as a fruit of faith....PROMOTERS OF ANARCHY. Muhahahaha....scary Christians who hearken the NT theme that Jews and Gentiles alike are not bound by any written laws are out to BREAK every rule in the book on purpose! Perlease.

The laws are found in Genesis all throughout, many even predating Noah, such as murder established when Able was slain. Why are you so against these laws?

Great so you'll have no trouble finding for me all of those laws and especially the one about establishing courts of law.

I'm not just against these laws, I'm against ALL religious law for Christians. Including Mosaic law and MADE UP talmudic Noahide Laws.

Also, what set of rules do you think this verse is talking about?

It's talking about all the rules that were given to Abraham of course.

You didn't repsond to my point that the Noahide proponents have set up the talmudic Sanhedrin as the judges for this system. I can provide documentation if you wish.

Is it still your position that the talmudic authorities who came up with these laws from their own interpretation are irrelevant in this issue and that their laws are still a good idea, regardless what they (who will be judges) think about them?
 
Noahide Campaign

The Noahide Campaign refers to a campaign by Orthodox Jews of the Chabad movement to influence all non-Jews to follow the Noahide Laws. This was one of the Mitzvah campaigns of the Lubavitcher Rebbe, Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, leader of Chabad.

Aside from prescribing laws for Jews, the Torah [talmudic interpretation!] contains a universal moral code directed to all non-Jews, known as the Noahide laws. Briefly, this code forbids non-Jews from murder, blasphemy, idolatry, adultery, robbery, tearing off flesh from a living animal and consuming it, and failing to set up courts of justice to enforce the above laws.

Noahide Campaign

"without these laws it is impossible for non-Jews to attain true ethical behavior"

"large group classes must be established to teach the Noahide laws in all their details"

"Jews must promote awareness of what he [Rabbi Shneerson] maintained to be their divinely appointed role to teach the Noahide Code until this role becomes world-famous"

"Jews must publicize amongst non-Jews the concept of God’s Absolute Unity as taught by Chasidic philosophy until it too becomes world-famous"

"creating Noahide communities of many thousands is an attainable goal"

"non-Jews themselves should be urged to actively spread the Noahide laws, such that the numbers of Noahides will multiply exponentially until the Noahide movement encompasses all mankind"
 
~Gospel Break~ :study

16:6 Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of
the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

16:11 How is it that ye do not understand that I spake it not to you
concerning bread, that ye should beware of the leaven of the
Pharisees and of the Sadducees?

16:12 Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the
leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the
Sadducees.

8:15 And he charged them, saying, Take heed, beware of the leaven of
the Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod.

12:1 In the mean time, when there were gathered together an
innumerable multitude of people, insomuch that they trode one
upon another, he began to say unto his disciples first of all, Beware
ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.
12:2 For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid,
that shall not be known.
12:3 Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in
the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall
be proclaimed upon the housetops.
12:4 And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the
body, and after that have no more that they can do.
12:5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after
he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you,
Fear him.
 
The Obligation of Jews to Seek Observance of Noachide Laws by Gentiles: A Theoretical Review

by Rabbi Michael J. Broyde

ABSTRACT​

This paper addresses the scope of Jewish law's mandate upon Jews to enforce the Seven Noachide commandments, as well as any other rules Jewish law mandates that Gentiles should keep. Part One of this article outlines what are the Noachide commandments, and their place in a halachic system. Part Two discusses the obligation of both Jews and Noachides under the rubric of the commandment called dinim (literally: "laws" or "justice"). Part Three reviews the various opinions on the obligation of Jews to enforce the Noachide commandments. Part Three will consider not only whether enforcement must be sought, but in situations where enforcement is not possible, whether Jewish law mandates Jews to seek to persuade Noachides to obey their commandments. It will also consider whether -- when such persuasion fails -- Jewish law, at the minimum, requires that one may not assist a Gentile in violating the Noachide commandments.

Link:

Jewish Law Articles
 
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