Obedience leads to life....

[Georges]

Salvation by faith only.....I don't think so..

Eze 33:12 ¶ Therefore, thou son of man, say unto the children of thy people, The righteousness of the righteous shall not deliver him in the day of his transgression: as for the wickedness of the wicked, he shall not fall thereby in the day that he turneth from his wickedness; neither shall the righteous be able to live for his [righteousness] in the day that he sinneth.

No mention of "Salvation by Faith"....

Eze 33:13 When I shall say to the righteous, [that] he shall surely live; if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath committed, he shall die for it.

A warning to keep constantly vigilent...righteousness can be negated on the day of sin....No mention of a Once Saved Always Saved here......and no mention of a faith in the savior as a redeeming feature...

Eze 33:14 Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; if he turn from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right;

Lawful and right....what would that be...? Torah obedience? Yep....

Eze 33:15 [If] the wicked restore the pledge, give again that he had robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die.

Eze 33:16 None of his sins that he hath committed shall be mentioned unto him: he hath done that which is lawful and right; he shall surely live.


What was that? Can't be......Let me get this straight, If the wicked turn from their way....and do what? "Walk in the statutes of Life" he shall live....

Wait a minute....that's not what Paul teaches....

God through Ezekiel claims that "Works, (ie. obeying the Torah)" is what is necessary to obtain life....don't see were actually "faith only" is mentioned....

James is right...faith and works....emphasis on works...as a physical (outward) showing of faith. Paul claims "faith only"....that's not what Ezekiel quotes....that is unless you believe Paul had the authority to supercede Jehovah's word...

 

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What exactly are you saying Paul said that was against what Jesus and the other disciples taught?

Jesus taught that love for God and fellowman fulfilled the essence of the OT law. Paul taught that the OT law was our schoolmaster to bring us to Christ. Once we are in Christ, we no longer need a schoolmaster, because love is a higher law than the previous commands. You don’t need to say, I love you, therefore I guess I won’t stab you and take your wallet or commit adultery with your wife, or steal your favorite hunting dog. Love doesn’t just promise not to hurt you or take your possessions but it is giving to you whatever I have that you need with genuine concern for your well being. It’s putting your needs ahead of mine.

What about the things that sound like Paul is preaching grace and not works? He is telling us that God didn’t have to save us, it was not required that he do it, and the cost to him was so painful that if we do not obey Christ, we do not really have faith in what Jesus taught us to do in order to be saved. Jesus paid the price so that we could be forgiven if we learn to confess our sins and walk in love and humility as he taught us. Faith in Christ is like having faith in a doctor who tells you to quit smoking and lose 30 pounds. Faith is believing what he said to do will actually save you so you actually do it.