Oneness Unitarian Plz Explain This Verse

[JM]

Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and WE will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

If God is only one person, who is the "we?"

 

[BradtheImpaler]

Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and WE will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

If God is only one person, who is the "we?"

Are there any Oneness devotees here that prompted these questions? I haven't seen any recently. (when active on most forums they are usually quite noticable as they tend to rant and rave a lot and average about 40 posts a day)

:wink:

 

[Vic C.]

They will most likey resurface again. I think Henry scared them off last time. 8-)

 

[thessalonian]

I think there is something in the passage for all the holders of non-trinitarian heresies as well. How can Christ the man make an abode in another man, unless he is not only a man, but God?

 

[JM]

I think there is something in the passage for all the holders of non-trinitarian heresies as well. How can Christ the man make an abode in another man, unless he is not only a man, but God?

Heresies is the right word... :wink:

 

[Klee shay]

I think there is something in the passage for all the holders of non-trinitarian heresies as well. How can Christ the man make an abode in another man, unless he is not only a man, but God?

As we all know, there is only One God (our Father in heaven) but after Jesus lay down his life for mankind (to be forgiven of His Father) God raised his Son from death to his right-hand side. Would this not make them a "we" in the same abode at the behest of God himself, without needing the doctrine of trinity?

Who raised Jesus from the clutches of death? Who placed Jesus at God's right hand side? It was the one God whose work wrought through Jesus, was that we believe on the Son and on the One who sent him.

The above scripture does not necessitate that God and Jesus are the same being to make a "we". God delivered his Son to mankind and Jesus lay down his life. When the ransom was paid for mankind God raised his Son to his right-hand side - not to be worshipped as God - but to be honoured as the Son of God in the same abode at God's behest.

God made this possible in the raising of his Son; long before the doctrine of trinity was created.

 

[BradtheImpaler]

I think there is something in the passage for all the holders of non-trinitarian heresies as well. How can Christ the man make an abode in another man, unless he is not only a man, but God?

"So also it is written, the first man, Adam, became a living soul, the last Adam BECAME A LIFE-GIVING SPIRIT" (1Cor.15:45)