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Ongoing Inner Conflict

netchaplain

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It is essential that we take a moment to consider the inward conflict of the growing child of God. It may be said, “What if a man knows his sins to be forgiven and more, liberty” (which some call “sanctification,” “deeper life,” etc.), “then, surely, every spiritual desire must be gratified, and thenceforward, till heaven be gained, there can be nothing more to be wished for it.

In things spiritual, as in things natural, when children have grown up to manhood, to ripe age, or, as Scripture says, are “perfect” (1Co 13:10, 11), they do not find that thenceforward there is nothing to do, nothing to suffer. Quite the contrary; in one sense they may be said to begin life only when perfect (mature—NC). Until the great and terrible “I” be held by grace to have been crucified with Christ, the believer can hardly be said to have begun to live the new life in its liberty (possessing salvation but not yet overcoming the “old man’—NC); but liberty obtained, inner conflict is certain to be entered into.

Before we were brought into Christian liberty, the enabling of the indwelling Spirit was not known, but, being delivered from the thrall of the old man, we are in the moral position which should gain the victory day by day. Not that the position itself is victory—it is only the vantage ground for victory; freedom from the domination of sin is obtained by the Spirit (Rom 8:13). Still, it is no little good to know what the vantage ground is, and a greater thing to occupy that ground.

The Spirit of God dwelling within us energizes the desire of the new life which He has implanted in us. He leads to humility, gentleness, and courage, and all in a divine way. We do not mean such qualities apart from the Spirit, which in that case may be merely traits of the Adamic life (the old man mimicking holiness but not genuine—NC).

When our old man stirs us up to desire its old things, the Spirit of God does not remain passive in us, but occasions conflict within: “For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would” (Gal 5:17). He restrains the believer from doing the things which the flesh likes, and constrains him to do the things which the Father loves, and effects this by acting upon the new man (Eph 3:16). The believer is not, and never will be, free from having sin in him in this world; nor will he be free from the danger of committing any kind of evil: and he is never, practically, safe except when he realizes his weakness, and walks in dependence upon the Holy Spirit (ever safe in salvation, but in need of growth—NC).

Should he say, “I cannot help doing evil,” then he denies the Spirit of God in him as the enablement for righteous living, and remains in the mire of sin. Should he say, “I am holy, or spiritual, or heavenly,” and in his heart think of what he is in himself (halted on the thought of being a sinner—NC), then it is the old man at work in another and more dangerous form, and he has denied the Spirit of God in His ability to produce spirituality, and heavenly-mindedness. This last is worse than the first, for the first is unbelief in God and the last is belief in himself (Gal 6:3—NC). The truth is, there is constant conflict proceeding within the growing child of God, and the Spirit is continually restraining from evil, as well as leading to good (retaining salvation while growing in Christ (Eph 4:15—NC).


The flesh in its pride would say, “I can live to God by means of law-keeping and religious observances”; and the flesh in its lusts would say, “I am safe for eternity, and thus can live for myself.” The new life the Father has given us has no affinity for either the one or the other of these evils, and the Spirit of God opposes the flesh in each.


– Henry Forbes Witherby (1836-1907)





MJS daily devotional excerpt for Oct 20

“Faith is dependence upon the Father. And this God-dependence only begins when self-dependence ends. And self-dependence only comes to its end, with most of us, when sorrow, suffering, affliction, broken plans and hopes bring us to that place of self-helplessness where we throw ourselves upon our Father in seeming utter helplessness and defeat. And only then do we find that we have learned the lesson of faith; to find our tiny craft of life rushing onward to a blessed life of fruitfulness and service undreamt of in the days of our fleshly strength and self-reliance.”—Charles Henry Mackintosh (1820-1896)
 
When our old man stirs us up to desire its old things, the Spirit of God does not remain passive in us, but occasions conflict within

My Old Man was buried with Christ. And now raised with Christ and made Alive, I am complete. That Old Man is dead, forever gone.

I only wish that you could experience such freedom; to be set free by Christ.
 
My Old Man was buried with Christ. And now raised with Christ and made Alive, I am complete. That Old Man is dead, forever gone.

I only wish that you could experience such freedom; to be set free by Christ.
I see your sincerity and thanks for it. But the reason why the old man is still in us and always tempting us is so we can continue to exercise our faith Christ's expiation for our sins. The old man is cut off from being able to dominate us (Ro 6:14), but not from tempting us. Though we still possess the sin nature, we no longer have part in the old man (Ro 8:9).

Great is the power of God, to keep us separated (sanctified) while within possession of the sin source!
 
I see your sincerity and thanks for it. But the reason why the old man is still in us and always tempting us is so we can continue to exercise our faith Christ's expiation for our sins. The old man is cut off from being able to dominate us (Ro 6:14), but not from tempting us. Though we still possess the sin nature, we no longer have part in the old man (Ro 8:9).

Great is the power of God, to keep us separated (sanctified) while within possession of the sin source!

I hear what you're saying, but it just saddens me that you are willing to throw away Scripture (for some reason). I just don't get it . . . how we can turn from obvious and clear teaching.

Romans 6:6-11 KJV - "Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. 7 For he that is dead is freed from sin. 8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: 9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. 10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. 11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord."

And thank you for recognizing my sincerity . . . I'm definitely not picking on you. I care very much for u all as well as the Holy Word of God.
 
Romans 6:6-11 KJV - "Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him,
Crucification here means only the damning power of it is destroyed.

that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
"The body of sin," with it's "members" (Col 3:5) has no more dominating power, that is, it can no longer cause you to desire sin.

7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
freedom from sin involve being free from sin's guilt and dominion, but not it's presence and workings of temptations.
And thank you for recognizing my sincerity . . . I'm definitely not picking on you. I care very much for u all as well as the Holy Word of God.
I've only known you to be sincere.
 
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