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What is Christ's passion? Many would say that it was a period of intense suffering in the life of Jesus from the Garden of Gethsemane to the crucifixion. For others, Christ's passion conjures up images of the terrible punishment depicted in films like Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ. Certainly, these views are correct, but I discovered that there are more women with a passion for Christ.

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Jesus, in terms of humanity, is a real person who lives our entire human life, except for sin. He also eats, drinks, sleeps, rests like everyone else, loves and hates, and feels passionate like humans. Is it different from Jesus' passion, which is more intense and continuous, more oriented and complete without harming anyone, on the contrary, His passion has led to a life-saving death for all? the whole of humanity. To complete the work of redemption on earth. Jesus and lion canvas
When God refused the glory for himself, took the form of a slave, became like a human, and lived like a mortal. That amazing and extraordinary thing that only God dares to do. An affirmation without fear of error is that the decision to become a human is a crazy passion in the Second Person of God - Jesus Christ. His passion is not for self-satisfaction, so we have to consider his purpose in coming to the world, it has influenced the inner feelings that made him decide to be a human.
The intense passion made Jesus leave his destiny as God and come to live among people. Here there is no trade-off of God's glory for creation. All things belong to Him, so there is nothing worth changing from Him. But because His nature is love and wants to live fully the passion, when the consciousness is intense, wants to impart divine life to all creatures.
God knows that man cannot reach Him by himself, so he "went out of heaven and entered the incarnation", living fully with his own passion. Man is the only thing that God needs to remember, what is human that God has to worry about? It is such "weakness" that He passionately sought and bent-over man, and at the same time, man was also created in God's image, so the only reason why Jesus was passionate about people was that He found it in the Father's heart. It can be said that no one is as passionate about people as Jesus. No one believes in the greatness of man like Jesus. That passion had to pay dearly for His appearance. That passion must be paid for with His own life. Faith and passion for humanity were evident in Jesus' earthly life as the good shepherd. Jesus was passionate about finding a man while he was still a sinner and if He didn't come and save him, he would still drown and die in sin. It is proof of the selfless love of the Pastor. It was not that Jesus wanted to leave the other 99 to look for the lost sheep. His love is boundless and embraces all mankind. His love and transcendent qualities, both human and all time, are inexhaustible.
The failed ending smiled at Jesus when people sentenced Him to death. It is also an inevitable consequence of a passion. There is a linguistic but logical coincidence in the person of Jesus. Is the cross a symbol of God's passion? If the cross is an insult and folly to the world, it is power and victory for those who are passionate about searching for the Risen One. Through the ages, No one has been able to answer the transcendent destiny of the world but Jesus. Through his voluntary death, he brought salvation to all mankind. Once again Hegel is right when he asserts: "Nothing great in the world can be accomplished without passion".
In the light of the resurrection, we also recognize the final truth of the passion of Jesus: The passion to feed humanity and stay with humanity until the end of the world.
Jesus was physically present for a time, He died and then entered life. From here, He will be with humanity in another, more transcendent dimension. What does the Bible say about Jesus? He delights in the midst of His people, not as a sojourner, but pitched his tent and dwelt among us. As long as he was human, he continued to live forever with passion, intense and persistent passion. The passion of someone who is called love.
The passion of Christ is guided by the will of the Father and leads to a life of purpose which is the cross (John 12:27).
Jesus was dedicated to fulfilling the requirements foretold by the prophecies and will of the Father. In Matthew 4:8-9, the devil gives Jesus the kingdoms of the world in exchange for His worship. This proposal represents a way for Jesus to establish his kingdom on earth without the cross. It may seem like an easy shortcut, but Jesus was passionate about fulfilling the Father's exact plan and rejected it.
In John 6:14-15, a mob tries to make Jesus a king by force, but he refuses their effort because it would be off the cross. The last words of the Grandson Jesus from the cross are a declaration of victory. Like a runner crossing the line ending in pain, but with great emotion in overcoming the obstacle, Jesus said - “It's done!” (John 19:30).
 
Firstly I like much of what you have put, even if not always as you have put it.

As to παθειν/pathein (Ac.1:3: ‘passion’ KJV; ‘suffering’ NIV: https://biblehub.com/greek/pathein_3958.htm), the context is decidedly of suffering, not of love though a corollary of love: love had to bleed if it was to redeem the worthless and fallen imago. That women (plus girls, boys, and men) should have a passion to deity—in the different sense of dynamic enthusiasm and commitment—I fully agree. And that God the son has the latter type of passion for humanity (and perhaps for like creatures elsewhere), a passion shared by Jesus and by becoming Jesus, I agree. But the traditional term (Vulgate/Wycliffe/Tyndale/KJV), the passion of Jesus, is strictly about suffering (Geneva), and our passion in the second sense might be tested with the passion of the first sense.

When it comes to speaking about Jesus, I think it leads to needless issues to speak in raw terms of God having become like a human, or similar wording. IMO it is better to systematise theology, and to speak first of God the father, God the son, and God the spirit, as three eternal (thus uncreated) persons (the eternal society). God the father did not become Jesus, nor did God the spirit become human. The father gave, the son became, the spirit supported (each saviour; one saviour: Athanasian Creed). As to the name Jesus, like the name/term christ, that is time-based: the incarnated mode of God the son was anointed (christ) and would save (Jesus) his people—once future time events. There was a time when Jesus was not; there was never a time when God the son was not. This keeps the ideas of nonincarnate/incarnate, distinct as outer and inner circle.

Moreover, to say that Jesus was simply ‘like a human’ overlooks that the fuller data shows that he was/is human, howbeit the Last/Second Adam, sinless in nature and action: anthropologically homoousios, not homoiousios. God the son (not Jesus) came to us by incarnation, becoming Jesus, who is just like pre-existing humanity in substance (Nicene Creed). I’d say that the Logos pitched his tent by incarnating/enmoding himself: the tent is Jesus. Incidentally, the idea of mode avoids the ‘divine suicide’ of 30+ year absence from heaven (pace Gess). In short, Jesus is the permanent temporal mode of the eternal uncreated second person of deity. Jesus could die; God cannot (pace Charles Wesley). Jesus could be ignorant; God cannot. Php.2 incidentally fits Adam Christology well enough, IMO, and arguably begins not with deity-becoming-human, but with deity (as God the son) having become human: as the second Adam (in the form/image? of deity) he humbled himself in his mortal life, even unto death, and as second Adam has been super-exalted for the new humanity.

I would say that the devil offered Jesus, not gave/gives Jesus, human kingdoms. Your mix of present/past tenses throughout can be somewhat confusing. Eg, when you put that Jesus sleeps, did you mean that postmortem he sleeps, or simply that when mortal he slept? Will we have a permanent sleep/wake cycle postmortem?
 
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