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Peniel, The Angel of the Lord. Only god born. Yahshua.

mdo757 said:
Sinthesis said:
mdo757 said:
Yahwah has many name titles, and Holy Spirit is one of them. Since the beginning of Judaism and Christianity, Pagan and Gnostic Mystics have sought to influence both.
Perhaps. However, Peniel is not one of God's names. Peniel is a place name.
I did not say that Peniel was one of Yahwah's name titles. From what you have said, I presume that you did not read the first part of this thread. Yahshua (Jesus) had a name before he was born into this world Proverbs 30:4
Who has gone up to heaven and come down? Who has gathered up the wind in the hollow of his hands? Who has wrapped up the waters in his cloak? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is his name, and the name of his son? Tell me if you know!
Yahwah is His name, and Peniel who is now called Yahshua is His son. Exodus 23:21
Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him. Psalm 68:4 Sing to God, sing praise to his name, extol him who rides on the clouds his name is Yah and rejoice before him.
No person or God or angel is named Peniel. Peniel is the name of a place.
 
Phanuel is a variant of Peniel. In the book of Enoch mentioned in Jude; and the book was also found in the dead sea scrolls. The book of Enoch states Phanuel is the Son of God. Peniel and Phanuel are basicly the same name.
 
Chapter 40 Book of Enoch. 1 And after that I saw thousands of thousands and ten thousand times ten thousand, I saw a multitude 2 beyond number and reckoning, who stood before the Lord of Spirits. And on the four sides of the Lord of Spirits I saw four presence's, [different from those that sleep not], ( The difference between those that sleep not, is those that need sleep ) and I learnt their names: for the angel that went with me made known to me their names, and showed me all the hidden things. 3 And I heard the voices of those four presences as they uttered praises before the Lord of glory. 4,5 The first voice blesses the Lord of Spirits for ever and ever. And the second voice I heard blessing 6 the Elect One and the elect ones who hang upon the Lord of Spirits. And the third voice I heard pray and intercede for those who dwell on the earth and supplicate in the name of the Lord of Spirits. 7 And I heard the fourth voice fending off the Satan's and forbidding them to come before the Lord 8 of Spirits to accuse them who dwell on the earth. After that I asked the angel of peace who went with me, who showed me everything that is hidden: 'Who are these four presences which I have 9 seen and whose words I have heard and written down?' And he said to me: 'This first is Michael, the merciful and long-suffering: and the second, who is set over all the diseases and all the wounds of the children of men, is Raphael: and the third, who is set over all the powers, is Gabriel: and the fourth, who is set over the repentance unto hope of those who inherit eternal life, is named Phanuel.' 10 And these are the four angels of the Lord of Spirits and the four voices I heard in those days...
 
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