Pigs In The Parlor

[Jesus_Is_His_Name]

Years ago when I accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior. I read this book called Pigs In The Parlor by Frank and Ida Mae Hammond which pertains to Deliverance Ministry. I was prayed up before I read it. I must say, it was quite an eye opener. Not only is the book intense, it had also blessed me in ways I couldn't imagine. Coming from a dysfunctional family, I couldn't understand the peculiar behavior. God's still small voice told me lovingly, you were Schizophrenic. To make a long story short, God delivered me from the shackles and chains. Thank you Jesus for setting me free! I am free indeed! No more mental illness etc...

Isaiah 53:5
But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

 

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I will never get tired of saying how Faithful our Savior is!

 

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I read that book shortly after I was saved. Probably in 1981 or so, a few years after publication. It tuned me in to observe the evil "influences" on man that are not of man. It was valuable information that helped me understand 'sourcing' evil/temptation thoughts and resisting them, recognizing them as a foreign (enemy) intrusion.

 

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Two other books which are very informative are:
1.) Witchcraft in the Church by Rick Godwin
2.) The Spiritual Man by Watchman Nee

 

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Two other books which are very informative are:
1.) Witchcraft in the Church by Rick Godwin
2.) The Spiritual Man by Watchman Nee

I devoured every Watchman Nee book I could get my hands on around the same time as the above. I think Witness Lee had even better understandings of some of the same things Nee discoursed on. It's sometimes refreshing to read outside of country influences to see what God in Christ worked in Asia for example, where they had an entirely different set of adverse to the Gospel, circumstances.

I consider a lot of what is practiced in orthodox sacerdotalism is idolatry, for sure. Maybe wouldn't call it witchcraft, but 'magic' is close company. I've also steered clear of any "hypnotism" for the same reasons. There are some doors that need to stay shut. Those people are playing with wicked spirits. They just don't know it.

 

[Jesus_Is_His_Name]

Deliverance is one of Jesus' ministries. If it wasn't so, I would of never gotten delivered from demonic activity!

 

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Isaiah 26:3
Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee.

 

[Jesus_Is_His_Name]

I devoured every Watchman Nee book I could get my hands on around the same time as the above. I think Witness Lee had even better understandings of some of the same things Nee discoursed on. It's sometimes refreshing to read outside of country influences to see what God in Christ worked in Asia for example, where they had an entirely different set of adverse to the Gospel, circumstances.

I consider a lot of what is practiced in orthodox sacerdotalism is idolatry, for sure. Maybe wouldn't call it witchcraft, but 'magic' is close company. I've also steered clear of any "hypnotism" for the same reasons. There are some doors that need to stay shut. Those people are playing with wicked spirits. They just don't know it.

Amen to that! Also I had turned down acupuncture as well.

 

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Amen to that! Also I had turned down acupuncture as well.

There was a time that I "isolated" myself, trying not to engage any evil anywhere in any way. I eventually learned to "confront" it, as Jesus did. Meet it headlong and call it down, for what it is.

 

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It is amazing how God gives us Spiritual eyes beyond our Physical. At some point, some have to be willing enough to turn away from such practices and also mentally from being a pillar of salt.

 

[Jesus_Is_His_Name]

There was a time that I "isolated" myself, trying not to engage any evil anywhere in any way. I eventually learned to "confront" it, as Jesus did. Meet it headlong and call it down, for what it is.

Amen! They all have names and must be confronted by that name.

 

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Amen! They all have names and must be confronted by that name.

Whatever names they claim are the names of liars in any case of sights.

If we see behind the curtains, Jesus is not interested in "judging" the disputes between wicked spirits, because He saw that activity for what it was:

Luke 12:
13 And one of the company said unto him, Master, speak to my brother, that he divide the inheritance with me.
14 And he said unto him, Man, who made me a judge or a divider over you?

Two wicked spirits in men, fighting over worldly possessions, is that.

 

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Where I've found the general understanding to be the most useful, is in witnessing the Gospel, The Life of Christ, and then seeing the "diversionary tactics" employed by the spiritual captors of the blinded. It never fails to amaze me. But it's actually quite predictable. You know instantly you are dealing with "the other."

2 Corinthians 4:
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

It is no small challenge to "hook or net" the fish, and cast away the 'bad.' But if we don't see two parties, we waste our breath trying to reason with the unreasonable.

The witness of the Gospel comes with two breaths. One to eternal life and one to eternal death. Both are a pleasure to breathe.

 

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:amen

 

[Wrg1405]

Years ago when I accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior. I read this book called Pigs In The Parlor by Frank and Ida Mae Hammond which pertains to Deliverance Ministry. I was prayed up before I read it. I must say, it was quite an eye opener. Not only is the book intense, it had also blessed me in ways I couldn't imagine. Coming from a dysfunctional family, I couldn't understand the peculiar behavior. God's still small voice told me lovingly, you were Schizophrenic. To make a long story short, God delivered me from the shackles and chains. Thank you Jesus for setting me free! I am free indeed! No more mental illness etc...

Isaiah 53:5
But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

I underwent deliverance ministry and I have to say that it did me more damage than good.
I also think that possibly my vision issues arose as a result.

This was not through the fault of those doing the ministry. In fact before we embarked on this ministry it was obvious to that this was the way to go.

My first experience of seeing them for the first time and I had never seen them before they said that whilst praying for me they felt God saying to them the initials HA, ask him about HA and about religious influences in his life.

So they asked me and they felt also that Hagar had something to do with this as such (not explained that bit well)
Anyway my response was that my mothers initials are HA, her name is Helema Alum and our ancestors religion is Muslim.

Anyway as we progressed and I started to open up, all the shame, fear, guilt, condemnation and self hatred of the way I had lived my life as a Christian as a person aside from my faith (believe you me this was painful and took months before I started to open up)

We met up one night and as they were praying they asked if I could see a shadow in my eyes. I couldn't but they could see one, so they prayed deliverance over it. We then progressed to rejection. They felt I had a spirit of rejection. As they prayed I started to get very hot and started to push my chair to the back of the room.

As they were praying I found myself swearing at them and I remember clear as day I said "I've been here since conception, I have every right to be here" as they prayed more, the more verbaly agrrssive and agitated I became. Eventually it finished with me saying (not me I think) "f**** off" even though they were telling me to reject it I didn't have the resource to do it. The session finished and we were meant to meet up a week later.

The following day when sat at my desk I was having black shadows drifting across my eyes and still do.

Anyway the follow up meeting(s) never happened. Unfortunately the couple started to suffer with illness and the meetings stopped.

So having found myself opening up, going through the ringer, learning to trust this couple with the whole of my life's guilt I then found myself locking myself down, closing up.

I was asked to see another couple for this counselling but I refused. There was no way I could cope with it.

Anyway having told you part of my story I do have to say that I am not against such ministry and I genuinely think there is a need for it. I do feel that there are demonic influences in our lives that cause us pain and anguish to us (I do not believe however that a Christian can be possessed by a demon), I do believe that we can also give satan a foothold. So just so you know I'm not saying it's a load of tosh.

 

[Jesus_Is_His_Name]

I underwent deliverance ministry and I have to say that it did me more damage than good.
I also think that possibly my vision issues arose as a result.

This was not through the fault of those doing the ministry. In fact before we embarked on this ministry it was obvious to that this was the way to go.

My first experience of seeing them for the first time and I had never seen them before they said that whilst praying for me they felt God saying to them the initials HA, ask him about HA and about religious influences in his life.

So they asked me and they felt also that Hagar had something to do with this as such (not explained that bit well)
Anyway my response was that my mothers initials are HA, her name is Helema Alum and our ancestors religion is Muslim.

Anyway as we progressed and I started to open up, all the shame, fear, guilt, condemnation and self hatred of the way I had lived my life as a Christian as a person aside from my faith (believe you me this was painful and took months before I started to open up)

We met up one night and as they were praying they asked if I could see a shadow in my eyes. I couldn't but they could see one, so they prayed deliverance over it. We then progressed to rejection. They felt I had a spirit of rejection. As they prayed I started to get very hot and started to push my chair to the back of the room.

As they were praying I found myself swearing at them and I remember clear as day I said "I've been here since conception, I have every right to be here" as they prayed more, the more verbaly agrrssive and agitated I became. Eventually it finished with me saying (not me I think) "f**** off" even though they were telling me to reject it I didn't have the resource to do it. The session finished and we were meant to meet up a week later.

The following day when sat at my desk I was having black shadows drifting across my eyes and still do.

Anyway the follow up meeting(s) never happened. Unfortunately the couple started to suffer with illness and the meetings stopped.

So having found myself opening up, going through the ringer, learning to trust this couple with the whole of my life's guilt I then found myself locking myself down, closing up.

I was asked to see another couple for this counselling but I refused. There was no way I could cope with it.

Anyway having told you part of my story I do have to say that I am not against such ministry and I genuinely think there is a need for it. I do feel that there are demonic influences in our lives that cause us pain and anguish to us (I do not believe however that a Christian can be possessed by a demon), I do believe that we can also give satan a foothold. So just so you know I'm not saying it's a load of tosh.

It breaks my heart to hear about the experience you had.

 

[Wrg1405]

It breaks my heart to hear about the experience you had.

Thanks for the hug.

As I said I'm not knocking it at all and I do believe it's needed.

When I hear your story I also thank Jesus for setting you free and my heart does fill with joy and thanks. And if I was with you I would praise and thank Jesus with you and sing with you.

I love hearing stories like yours.

There is hope in his name, that hope keeps us going.

 

[Jesus_Is_His_Name]

tears of joy!