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Usarmyfl

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Please hear me out and do not judge me or attack me...... According the the Bible... Jesus has killed millions of people, out of anger.... Satan *lucifer, the light bearer* Has killed not one person, and wanted man to have knowledge. Critical thinking skills show me that Satan, the light bearer is a good guy... Point out where I am wrong? Thanks
 
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Usarmyfl said:
Please hear me out and do not judge me or attack me...... According the the Bible... Jesus has killed millions of people, out of anger.... Satan *lucifer, the light bearer* Has killed not one and wanted man to have knowledge. Critical thinking skills show me that Satan, the light bearer is a good guy... Point out where I am wrong? Thanks
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I am not here to troll I really am not. I want to understand. I am here because I am lost.
 
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Hi, first off, you need to show us where in the Bible that it says Jesus killed millions of people.
You can't make that type of statement without backing it up.
 
It's difficult to understand when we take a shortsighted world view instead of a Biblical view. We will never be able to logically comprehend all of God's ways regardless of how satan tries to make us believe we can. God is all knowing, past, present and future, if we dropped an axe into the sea of His wisdom, it would never reach the bottom (some really smart guy said that once ;)).

He is the creator, it is all His. In His grace, we were all given free will and He has made himself known to us all, so that no man has an excuse. The folks prior to Noah greatly and dangerously took advantage of His ultimate kindness, yep, His kindness. Did you know that God created the world with the right amount of atmospheric pressure, the perfect composition of 10 gases to create the air we breathe, created the formula for the water we drink and the list goes on. He created a perfect home for humans, and then instead of following the all knowing, they chose to follow the father of all lies, to follow the most evil one- all their choice, too.

There will always be consequences for wrong doing, in fact remaining in the wrongdoings always leads to some sort of death.

I want to point out the 2 most deceitful lies satan will convince people of believing:
1). God does not exist
2) God is the bad one, who doesn't love or care for us.
Both lies, don't be deceived!!
 
One of the difficult things about being a created being is accepting that our opinion is not as valid as God's.
It will never be.
So, we can justify our inability to accept that God has a right to do whatever HE chooses to do and he is right every time he does, based on our contrary opinion that has become our God, but this is not going to change much.

Also, God, according to his Word is a Righteous Eternal being who is mostly concerned with the inner man regarding a person, and as he has the ability to know our thoughts he therefore has the ability to understand and determine perfectly when a person has become so depraved in their perspective, logic, and desire, that they have become a type of terminal cancer on the body of humanity.
So, anytime God has decided to eliminate humans in the OT, it always has to do with the fact that he knew their hearts (inner man) had developed and hardened into a type of continual lust for depravity > and at this point he was merely performing righteous moral surgery to eliminate advanced moral decay, which as Creator is not only his right, but his obligation.

And regarding your viewpoint of Satan.
Can you provide us with the list of things that he has done that was ever helpful or good?
Has he ever died for anyone's sins, or healed anyone's sickness?
Exactly what did he do for you that would cause you to come to a Christian forum and play defense lawyer?
Is there such a thing as a list of good deeds that Satan has performed for the benefit of the human race since he was cast out of heaven?.
 
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Satan tempts man to sin against the Law of God thereby man is guilty deserving punishment for the deeds done.
And Satan is innocent?

A mistress convinces a man to kill his wife, the man gets the punishment he deserves, the judge gets blamed for it and the woman is innocent according to critical thinking?
How does that work?
 
Usarmyfl said:
Please hear me out and do not judge me or attack me...... According the the Bible... Jesus has killed millions of people, out of anger.... Satan *lucifer, the light bearer* Has killed not one person, and wanted man to have knowledge. Critical thinking skills show me that Satan, the light bearer is a good guy... Point out where I am wrong? Thanks
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Something to remember....is that lucifer used to be the light bearer. He is not anymore. When he decided to think that he was better than God, he blew it big time! And one may not think that satan has not killed anyone, but remember that he is the god of this world, and he is the one who has killed massive amounts of people by tornadoes and hurricanes, and sunamies and such. And he is the one who has tempted people with abortion and genocide and every kind of wickedness that is out there.
Blessings!
 
Usarmyfl said:
Please hear me out and do not judge me or attack me...... According the the Bible... Jesus has killed millions of people, out of anger.... Satan *lucifer, the light bearer* Has killed not one person, and wanted man to have knowledge. Critical thinking skills show me that Satan, the light bearer is a good guy... Point out where I am wrong? Thanks
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Hello Ussarmyfl

Yes satan was at one time a beautiful creation of God UNTIL he rebelled against God and he was cast out of heaven. This means Gods glory that was in him was snuffed out or taken away, and he became a hideous looking creature as all demons truly are.

You have to remember before the cross satan had much more power and dominion over this earth and man. The devil killed many.....God did destroy man on this earth at one time because He was fed up with mans constant evil and rebellion and wickedness. BUT God also promised to not ever destroy man again.

It is out of His love (Grace) that God put forth His plan for mans redemption and this was through Jesus Christ and the shedding of His blood. It is out of His love for man that we have a salvation given unto us freely by simply believing in Jesus and asking Him to be our personal Lord and savior.. God is not going around killing people but the day will come when He will judge this world as thee Righteous and True Judge that He is. Those who do not have the blood of Christ covering them or in them will not enter into His Kingdom of Heaven. That is mans choice.

The devil is the father of lies and has no good in him. Evil is his heart and he hates God just as much as God hates sin and God hates sin because sin destroys His creation man. God is all loving and merciful and knowing and powerful and all of these are just some of His traits or Grace.
Blessings
Jim
 
I don't see satan having the power of the storms. that is the curse of sin. but that is for another thread.
 
Satan is the father of lies. He mixes a little truth with his lies to make them appear credible.
Yes, Satan is a beautiful angel albeit a fallen one. I don't think his appearance has changed. Sin is alluring, enticing, attractive and so is he.
 
Rick W said:
Satan is the father of lies. He mixes a little truth with his lies to make them appear credible.
Yes, Satan is a beautiful angel albeit a fallen one. I don't think his appearance has changed. Sin is alluring, enticing, attractive and so is he.
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No actually he would scare you big time. It is not pitch fork and red but he aint pretty at all. The bible will teach you this.
 
Usarmyfl said:
Please hear me out and do not judge me or attack me...... According the the Bible... Jesus has killed millions of people, out of anger.... Satan *lucifer, the light bearer* Has killed not one person, and wanted man to have knowledge. Critical thinking skills show me that Satan, the light bearer is a good guy... Point out where I am wrong? Thanks
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Satan is not going to kill the wicked, they are his people. Jesus only judged the wicked. Satan is killing plenty of people in these days, murder, beheadings, Islam. Jesus only kills the wicked evil people. He doesn't like to do it. I can't even imagine this world 10 years from now. Thank God for his judgements on the wicked. Btw Satan has always killed people, was there not murder in the days of Noah? Satan even tried to kill Jesus when he was in the wilderness for forty days. Tried to get him to jump off the building in Mathew Luke and Mark.
 
Usarmyfl said:
Please hear me out and do not judge me or attack me...... According the the Bible... Jesus has killed millions of people, out of anger.... Satan *lucifer, the light bearer* Has killed not one person, and wanted man to have knowledge. Critical thinking skills show me that Satan, the light bearer is a good guy... Point out where I am wrong? Thanks
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Satan is death.
Of course he kills, physical and spiritual.
Heb.2:14
Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, He also Himself likewise took part of the same, that through death He might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil,

now the flood,
Gen 6:2
That the sons of God (fallen angels) saw the daughters of men that they were fair, and they took them wives of all which they chose.
4, There were giants (like Goliath) in earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

They wanted to corrupt the human race, corrupt the Christ seed.
Thus God destroyed them.
Most of the wars were about the same thing, like Goliath.
 
Fish Catcher Jim said:
No actually he would scare you big time. It is not pitch fork and red but he aint pretty at all. The bible will teach you this.
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2Cor.11:14,15
And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed (disguised) into an angel of light.
Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness,
 
dianegcook said:
2Cor.11:14,15
And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed (disguised) into an angel of light.
Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness,
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Can be not is !!
Thats a good scripture and is not his true image. Check out revelation and find out.
That is can transform to deceive.
 
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