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Do you consider yourself a born again Christian
A Christian
non-Christian
atheist
agnostic
new ager
 
I would consider myself born again and a Christian but I guess I don't fit the "definition" of a born again Christian so I won't claim that term.
 
Nothing really. I have recieved the Holy Spirit. But the conotation of a Born Again Christian is one who believes in doctrines such as Once Saved Always Saved or Eternal Security. That's not me if that is what a BAC is. I don't want to be associated with it. I trust in Christ for my salvation, knowing that I have my free will and it is not out of compulsion that I walk. Presumption is a dangerous state.
 
Biblereader said:
What's the difference, to you, between being a Christian,
and a born again Christian?
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Some believe that God cannot save a person by having one born of God the Spirit, and seal that person until the day of redemption by God the Spirit; they believe that they must have a part in their salvation process, so that God can not have full credit for salvation of sinners.

God's way of salvation by being born of God to allow one to see and enter the Kingdom of God, undermines the dogma, doctrine, and beliefs of some major religious groups masquerading as having the full truth, and nothing but the truth while they espouse doctrines of a spirit other than the Spirit of God.

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. 5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. 6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error. 1 John 4:1-5
 
i believe you are born atheist because who is to say that you don't become jewish or muslim because religion is your choice but your parents can try to recruit you
 
Christian, for me.

MorgWolfsong said:
i believe you are born atheist because who is to say that you don't become jewish or muslim because religion is your choice but your parents can try to recruit you
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So, what is your answer? 8-)
 
Christian, although I have not been baptised yet. I'm a Christian by nature.

BTW why would people want to post here if they are aethist? This is a Christian forum. Why don't they go to an aethist forum. Not that they're not welcome or anything, but....
 
vic said:
Christian, for me.

MorgWolfsong said:
i believe you are born atheist because who is to say that you don't become jewish or muslim because religion is your choice but your parents can try to recruit you
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So, what is your answer? 8-)
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I dont know vic you tell me :)

Edit: AJB4 tell me how are you born christian. If you are born and your parents instill no values whatsover in you then you wont have any morals of christianity so you are born a blank sheet but your parents shape you as they wish but you can always shape yourself.
 
thessalonian said:
Nothing really. I have recieved the Holy Spirit. But the conotation of a Born Again Christian is one who believes in doctrines such as Once Saved Always Saved or Eternal Security. That's not me if that is what a BAC is. I don't want to be associated with it. I trust in Christ for my salvation, knowing that I have my free will and it is not out of compulsion that I walk. Presumption is a dangerous state.
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Really?
So it was your free will choice was it ?
Perhaps it is time to reconsider that view point...

No one can come to Christ unless the Father who sent Him draws (Greek: drags) him (John 6:44)

No one can come to Christ unless it has been granted him from the Father
(John 6:65).

No one can resist His will (Romans 9:19).

By His doing you are in Christ Jesus (1 Corinthians 1:30).

Paul tells us, non are righteouse, nobody seeks for God.

1 Corinthians 4:7....Concordant Literal New Testament
7 For who is making you to discriminate? Now what have you which you did not obtain? Now if you obtained it also, why are you boasting as though not obtaining?

Perhaps it is worth reconsidering the Free Will stance.....
 
AJB4 said:
BTW why would people want to post here if they are aethist? This is a Christian forum. Why don't they go to an aethist forum. Not that they're not welcome or anything, but....
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I also post on atheist forums. However, I think it is good that believers and nonbelievers try to understand each other. So I like to come here for that.
 
MorgWolfsong said:
I dont know vic you tell me :)
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No, you tell the forum what you told me in a PM. Thank you.

Edit: AJB4 tell me how are you born christian. If you are born and your parents instill no values whatsover in you then you wont have any morals of christianity so you are born a blank sheet but your parents shape you as they wish but you can always shape yourself.
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Read Romans chapter 2 please.
 
Spirit Driven said:
Really?
So it was your free will choice was it ?
Perhaps it is time to reconsider that view point...

No one can come to Christ unless the Father who sent Him draws (Greek: drags) him (John 6:44)

No one can come to Christ unless it has been granted him from the Father
(John 6:65).
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So, what if one is drawn, but still refuses to "drink the water"?

No one can resist His will (Romans 9:19).
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It is God's will that none shall sin, yet we sin. It is God's will that many be called, but few are chosen.

Paul tells us, non are righteouse, nobody seeks for God.
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Yet in many places Jesus tells us to seek... and believe. If neither of these are "choices" then why bother saying it in the first place?

1 Corinthians 4:7....Concordant Literal New Testament
7 For who is making you to discriminate? Now what have you which you did not obtain? Now if you obtained it also, why are you boasting as though not obtaining?

Perhaps it is worth reconsidering the Free Will stance.....
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Ah yes, the Concordant; the Bible of choice for most Universalists. You are beginning to sound like a UR. What is your take on salvation? Who will, or won't be saved?
 
Biblereader said:
What's the difference, to you, between being a Christian,
and a born again Christian?
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All Christians have been "born again." Righ-wingers use the term "born again" as if to say that they're not simply nominal Christians.
 
All Christians have been "born again." Righ-wingers use the term "born again" as if to say that they're not simply nominal Christians.
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Poke, please keep this doctrinal, not political. Thanks.

It has nothing to do with right or left wing. If you do not fit the description that Jesus lays out in John 3, you are not born-again or born from above as some translations say.
 
vic said:
It has nothing to do with right or left wing. If you do not fit the description that Jesus lays out in John 3, you are not born-again or born from above as some translations say.
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I don't see what your point is. "No one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again." Yes. What do you say the difference between "Christian" and "born-again Christian" is?

I think my assessment of the connotation of "born-again" is most accurate, and was not meant to be pejorative. If it sounded pejorative, that would be because even asking if someone is a Christian vs. a born-again Christian is not something that should be asked in the first place.
 
Edit: AJB4 tell me how are you born christian. If you are born and your parents instill no values whatsover in you then you wont have any morals of christianity so you are born a blank sheet but your parents shape you as they wish but you can always shape yourself.
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I've been raised in church since my birth, but it's only the last few months actually that I've started to get a faith of my own, one that my parents haven't drummed into me. I'm 15 now.
 
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